foster. great to meet you, mark. you're a legend in our neck of the woods. we've got some good swimmers in in in nottinghamshire. rebeccareat swimmer. but you six times world champion . but it was a bit of a bad boy back in the day, weren't you? 15, 16. tell me about that. >> i don't know how bad it was. i think looking back and reflecting on obviously we all reflecting on obviously we all reflect when we were much younger. i think a lot of my bad boy was down to the fact boy image was down to the fact that i gay. i didn't want that i was gay. i didn't want anyone to see it, my anyone to see it, and my frustration was taken out on, well, i create this facade, well, if i create this facade, then no one will see the sort of real me in a sense. and also i was just a young teenage kid that was probably just playing up like most kids play up. but i think the deflection thing was because i was going, didn't because i was going, i didn't want see it. want anyone to see it. >> at that time they >> so i guess at that time they 80s, early 80s, mid 80s and being a gay man in the spotlight , that must have been very difficult you t