doctor rebecca grant, who we always enjoy having with us. know about this second person who allegedly was in line to take over for abu bakr al-baghdadi. what do we know about him? >> reporter: the second individual was said to be the isis spokesman. this is an important loss for them as well yet we are hearing of even a third individual who may take over the two points. isis has become a franchise or virtual organization and most important to remember, they are out of territory in syria and iraq and out of money. this is the end of the isis caliphate. >> let's take a look. we can pull up a map, the majority of the north was controlled by isis in syria in october 2015. compare that to a map of october 2019 were there was no isis foothold in syria. where do they focus next in terms of rebuilding? >> they have set up little organizations in many different countries. isis looks for areas that have week government or corrupt areas where they can start to grab some resources and build up. areas i'm watching include yemen, libya, isis operations in

doctor rebecca grant joins us with their expertise. take us through what you think is happening. i'm having this with griff jenkins in terms of who is attacking who and who has broken the cease-fire. >> this is not what we were hoping to see with what griff reported. looks like there was action by the free syrian army and that is a group of former syrian offices linked up with the turks quite a long time ago. to me this picture shows me this is not turkish regular forces, it will be a lot more bombing and smoke if this was turkish tanks or aircraft but looks like it may be the free syrian army making trouble in that disputed region. heather: we have a portion of this joint statement on northern syria which the camera is looking at which is where the bombing, shelling is happening. both countries reiterate the commitment to the political unity and territorial integrity of syria and you and led political process which aims at ending the syrian conflict. doesn't make any difference at all the syrian free army is involved in this and not as far as we know direct turkish forces, does

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rebecca grant who knows these things made this observation. >> it would be a lot more bombing and smokef this was turkish tanks or aircraft. but it looks like it may be their proxy, the free syrian army making trouble in that disputed region around ras al-ayn. griff: this comes as the president hailing cease-fire in the nation. interview with vice president pence over trusting erdogan. here's what happened. >> based on his behavior, based on his action, can you trust him. >> we will take this agreement for what it is. president order gone knows president trump says what he means and means what he says. and i think on the foundation of that kind of a candid and honest relationship, we can go forward together for a more peaceful region. griff: you know what to watch for pence and pompeo are landing. we will see if they have anything to say about a broken cease-fire, guys. steve: griff, just to reiterate. appears smoke rising. we don't know who is doing the shooting, right. >> my source has been been 500 meters from the free syrian army forces. they are aligned with turkey he has witnessed

grant vicki. >>thanks rebecca. heart-stopping moments in the know bay this morning when 3 school campuses are put on lockdown after a school shooting it was actually write off campus but affected these 3 schools in santa rosa yet happen at ridgeway high school after a verbal fight outside the school. our first charles clifford explains. >>well here in santa rosa on tuesday, a 17 year-old swudent at ridgeway high school is in custody. for a pledge lee shooting another student of this all happened just before 9 o'clock just off campus. when the 2 students got into an argument. the suspect in this case we are told by santa rosa police pulled out a gun shot the victim twice in the torso the suspect then gave the weapon to someone else whot took it away from campus. and then returned to class asked the victim went to the emergency room here in santa rosa and is expected to be okay. now the police department shut down put the campus on lock down along with santa rosa high. and santa rosa junior college as well for severa