now here is rebecca heinrich, senior fellow at the hudson institute.ca, what is your take where we go from here? what are the options. >> you know, we've got two very strong, good impulses coming from the u.s. government right now. the first one i'm very sim the threat tick too, we have got -- sympathetic to. it has to cause assad to regret that he did it. it has to be strong he won't do it again. the heart of deterrence. the punishment won't be worth any gain, give the rebels to give up the particular area to attack with chemical weapons. in that regard he was successful. the other impulse that was good, the united states does not want to create a situation in which we're escalating our military's involvement in the region. we certainly don't want to be having an all-out war with russia or the iranians over assad. those two things, how we accomplish the first without doing the second thing. melissa: is a pretty tough needle to thread. that is where the tensions are, those folks, you watch this video, he has gotten very bold, the quickest to clear out

undersecretary griffin will be speaking today in conversation with senior fellow rebecca heinrichs on precisely this question of american technological preeminence and how to preempt our great power competitors and rogue actors from exploiting the technologies against us or against u.s. interests. under secretary griffin serves as chief technology officer for the secretary of defense which means he looks at current defense capabilities, looks at how to improve them technologically, defense technology transformation, how to hedge against uncertainty. he's an air row knowledgecle engineer by training, recently taught at the university of alabama at huntsville before returning to the department of defense. he, of course, served as administrator of nasa from 2005 to 2009 prior to service at nasa, he was head of the space department at johns hopkins university applied physics laboratory and also served as president and chief operating officer of incuetell, private non-profit enterprise, funded by the central intelligence agency to identify and invest in cutting-edge technologies that serve

so what happens now question mark i guess former arizona sheriff paul babeu military fellow rebecca heinrich sports columnist gordon chang and former bush senior staffer brad blakley. >> the dow ending the day down nearly 150 points very close to that but mostly its first monthly win since january price futures and the "fox business" future leaders watching all the action in oil and gold. nicole petallides on on the floor of the exchange print because the drop at the end of the day? >> microsoft among "the biggest loser" also had plans for stocks. we have had obviously earnings happening and that brought optimism but you have a strong dollar across-the-board. i'll get to that of the moment. let's take a look at what happened here today. the dow jones industrial down 147 points really ending right at the session lows, down a half of 1% the s&p 500 three-quarters to 1% and nasdaq also under pressure down 53 points. mcdonald so that was a start. both the top and bottom line every quarter higher local sales, quality beef. the customers are spending more money so that is higher by 5.7% and the do

we have rebecca heinrichs. what do you make of this? this came out of nowhere.bviously we advanced this along the stage of remember henry kissinger meeting with mao for getting richard nixon to meet with mao tse-tung and the great visit in china. what do you think is going on? >> they're laying groundwork between the big talk, between kim jong-un and president trump. this is a necessary step to get there. i think a lot of criticisms of the realization that mike pompeo went there are unfounded because many of those same people who are criticizing it, they have been championing this idea of peace talks and then criticize president trump for announcing he will have talks with kim without laying the ground work. you can't have it both ways f we give a good-faith effort at talks this is exactly how you do it. neil: this jars people. i remember when jimmy carter was president, andrew young, our ambassador with the united nations had a secret meeting with the with plo. people were shocked and aghast. what do they iron out forget what people think pro and negative? what

rebecca hine rings, hudson -- heinrichs hudson institute senior fellow. he is taking a boy for this. should he? >> i don't blame him for but too soon to tell. reporters embedded with the caravan some of the men from that group were not detained. they still may be on their way to the u.s. border. neil: to do what? to do what? >> try to seek asylum to get into the united states. if they can't do it through the asylum procedures then to get here illegally. it is true though that the president's tough talk had, not just talk, tough stance on illegal immigration has had an overall effect on illegal immigrant crossings since he has taken office. from march 2016 to march 2017, the drop of illegal immigrant crossings dropped 60%. many people call it the trump effect. his position has had a effect. it is too soon to tell this particular caravan, some of these illegal immigrants will try to get across this border. neil: maybe you can educate me, maybe the caravan was catalyst for this, we'll have troops on the border, national guardsmen. other presidents have done