. >> guest: i handled a case regarding a stock or who murdered the actress rebecca shafer.one of the earlier notorious cases before we knew what it meant, what stocking was all about. >> host: are you still lawyering in any way? 's >> guest: i am still lawyering. i'm handling court-appointed appeals mccrindle appeals. in california when you're convicted of a felony are entitled to one direct appeal to the court of appeals and if you can't afford a lawyer they appoint one for you like a public defender only in private practice so most people who get convicted of felonies are tapped out. they spend it all on their trial lawyer so by the time in the state prison they need to file an appeal they don't have any more money so the court appoints people like me, we have an appointment for you, and it is all in writing and it is all written work. what is cool about it i see the entire state of california and i get to see how things are tried today, what level of evidence, what science are they using, what are the jury's like, what are the verdicts like and do something good for soci