bipartisan center, rebecca tallent. they are out with a new consensus study asking both sides to come together on a consensus for reform. you can see how the phone lines are divided up. here is a tweet for rebecca tallent -- host: and then this one -- guest: actually, i will take the second one first, the cbo has done a study and we are going to be coming out with numbers in the last month or so that will look at the economic impact of immigration reform, so keep your eye out for that. but the budget office look at the senate bill and found that before the border surge it would still be a net process and prior to the border surge amendment there would be an increase of $191 billion to offset the deficit. sorry if that was a confusing way to say that. net positive to the country, economically.meaning that with the additional cost on the border, they were still looking at astronomical numbers with money being flooded into the offsetting of the deficit. also, though, you have to account for the fact that there is economic

host: ok, rebecca tallent? guest: this story is reminiscent of what we are talking about.ere and like he came had family here, speculation, and overstayed, but he is now working here and wants to start his own business and wants to be able to hire people and, like he said, contributes to the economy. to me, that frankly is the most persuasive argument in all of this, the economic contribution. host: what will he have to do to come out of the shadows? been here for 12 years, how much in back taxes, all of that, would he have to pay? guest: a good question. there are a couple of pieces here. obviously we do not know what the house is going to do at this point, but under the senate bill do come forward and pay an initial fine of $2,000 and then he will be on probationary status for 10 years. under the current senate bill, because it is always a complicated legislative issue, but there is not a requirement right now to pay back taxes, because there is a technical problem. that will be likely address coming out of the conference committee, the back taxes requirement. we put it

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. -- we are speaking with rebecca tallent about the bipartisan task force and finding consensus on thisue. linese divided the phone differently. if you support the idea of immigration reform, 202-583- 380, and if you oppose it, 202- 585-382. here is abc news with this headline. "no pathway the citizenship." the political arm of the republican party says they do not think it is good politics to have a pact with the citizenship. and then you have one of williams' writing the opinion that republican leaders are pushing the door open for immigration deals, citing paul ryan of wisconsin in the gop 25 -- citing paul ryan of wisconsin that the house is willing to vote in 2012, "he is opening the door to republicans allowing their leadership to pass the bill with votes from democrats." guest: there are a couple of different strategies happening here. and keep talking about it congressman ryan a few weeks ago got into hot water talking at a town hall about a very clear outline that he indicated house leadership was going to go through to get immigration reform done. what i do not understand and