and, rebecca traister. she is a writer-at-large for "new york magazine" and author of the book "all the single ladies: unmarried women and the rise of an independent nation." and we welcome both of you to the program. maya raghu, i'm going to start with you. there are so many cases we're hearing about now, so many accusations and now resignations and so forth. it's coming very fast. but i want to ask you about what's happening to the accused. some of them are losing their jobs. some of them are subject to legal prosecution. a few of them. how do we determine what should happen to these men? >> so you raise an excellent point, judy, which is that there is what is happening and what should be happening. and really there are two forms of consequences or accountability here. there is the legal consequences, as you mention, and then there is this broader cultural accountability, that is going to come from many different sources. so in terms of legal consequences, obviously as we've seen, many of those come from