. >> that was rebekah brooks? >> yes, that's mrs. brooks. >> in september 2009?009, and she started to play a much bigger role. >> so you are the chairman -- formally or effectively? >> i think formally i was the chairman of news international. >> the executive chairman or -- >> i don't recall. i may have been the executive chairman. >> who was the de facto chief executive of news international, running the show, before rebekah was appointed? >> we had an executive group of a chief operating officer, myself as executive chairman, and a chief financial officer, and i instituted involving the editors more transparently in the business operation. >> so you were executive chairman? >> yes. as i say, i might have been named executive chairman, but i was effectively executive chairman. >> in this meeting on 10 june -- you could not have been clearer on this -- the "for neville" e- mail, in its wider significance, was not mentioned; just the fact that it involved the news of the world. when you had this meeting, did you know who gordon taylor was? >> i don't recall if i

he took over from rebekah brooks who resigned amid the scandal over allegations of phone hacking.rooks is one of a dozen murdoch journalists arrested as a result of the hacking fallout. news group publishes britain's biggest selling tabloid the sun and used to publish news of the world, the country's top selling sunday paper until the long time tabloid was shut down after phone hacking accusations grew this summer. murdoch denies knowledge of any wrongdoing. his resignation comes as testimony continues in the inquiry into the hacking by the british parliament which could lead to major changes in the way the media in britain are regulated. british comedian steve kugan claiming journalists offered his friends money for stories about him and explains why he decided not to take legal action against news international. >> the interest was clear that if you make life difficult for them, they will use their newspapers as a weapon against you. reporter: despite resignations james murdoch remains chairman of news international. the british arm of his father rupert murdoch's news corporatio

that was rebekah brooks? >> yes spent in september 2009? >> yes, although effectively i think was announced in the summer of 2000 and she started to play a much bigger role. >> so you were -- >> i think formerly the chairm chairman. >> not executive chairman? >> i don't recall. i may been the executive chairman. >> who was the de facto chief executive of news international before running the show before rebecca was appointed? >> we had an executive group, chief financial officer and then, and i involve the editors more transparency. >> so you were an executive chairman? >> yes. i might have been but effective -- >> can i just come in this meeting on the 10th of june, the e-mail in its wide significance was not mentioned the fact that involve "news of the world." when you had this meeting did you ask colin myler, you know who taylor was? >> pardon me? >> did you? >> did you know who gordon taylor was? >> i don't recall if i knew he'd he was beforehand, but mr. myler would have told me spirit did you ask any meeting who the hell is this gordo

that was rebekah brooks? >> yes spent in september 2009? >> yes, although effectively i think was announced in the summer of 2000 and she started to play a much bigger role. >> so you were -- >> i think formerly the chairm chairman. >> not executive chairman? >> i don't recall. i may been the executive chairman. >> who was the de facto chief executive of news international before running the show before rebecca was appointed? >> we had an executive group, chief financial officer and then, and i involve the editors more transparency. >> so you were an executive chairman? >> yes. i might have been but effective -- >> can i just come in this meeting on the 10th of june, the e-mail in its wid significance was not mentioned the fact that involve "news of the world." when you had this meeting did you ascolin myler, you know who taylor was? >> pardon me? >> did you? >> did you know who gordon taylor was? >> i don't recall if i knew he'd he was beforehand, but mr. myler would have told me spirit did you ask any meeting who the hell is this gordon t

that was rebekah brooks? >> yes spent in september 2009? >> yes, although effectively i think was announced in the summer of 2000 and she started to play a much bigger role. >> so you were -- >> i think formerly the chairm chairman. >> not executive chairma >> i don't recal i may been the executive chairman. >> who was the de facto chief executive of news international before running the show before rebecca was appointed? >> we had an executive group, chief financial officer and then, and i involve the editors more transparency. >> so you were n executive chairman? >> yes. i might have been but effective -- >> can i just come in this meeting on the 10th of june, the e-mail in its wide significance was not mentioned the fact that involve "news of the world." when you had this meeting did you ask colin myler, you know who taylor was? >> pardon me? >> did you? >> did you know who gordon tayl was? >> i don't recall if i knew he'd he was beforehand, ut mr. myler uld have told me spirit did you ask any meeting who the hell is this gordon taylor?