over at msnbc, rebekah jones is more like a religious figure. >> rebekah jones, the light is shining. don't be scared because the whole country now is watching you and your family and what they do to you. >> so anyone who pushed back on any of this, well, of course, they were sexist for questioning rebekah jones. >> yes, unfortunately, i've personally experienced a lot of prejudice for the last several months, trying to get rid of the stigma of mental health actually used the term "she's got issues," referring to me, so there is an absolutely coordinated effort to dismiss women in any instance that they seek to make them seem irrational or overly emotional. >> tucker: it was an effort to dismiss women. one long magazine piece takes her seriously. doesn't dismiss her at all but says she's a total fraud. she did not have the authority to delete records of covid deaths in the florida system. also points out that she changed her story about what happened multiple times. charles cook is a senior writer at national review. he's the one who wrote this piece which you should read because it'

chief rebekah jones joins us now.t is the latest on how the cluster has gotten, and potential for exposure? >> good morning. you are right. victoria had -- without a single community case of covid. the cluster is nine cases. it looks like it may grow. of particular concern, the sheer number of exposure sites. we have a major shopping center, a football match at australia's famous grounds. contact tracers are seeing if they can get a handle on exactly how far this has spread. shery: what could we expect in terms of lockdowns? >> nothing at this stage. masks are back. there has been a limit imposed on public and private gatherings to curve the spread of the virus from where it is at the moment. there is a new exposure site just this morning in a region of victoria that is of concern. in 2020, melbourne went through one of the longest and most stringent lockdowns, 112 days. it is basically how work and living was bound. that is what we are watching closely. what has happened is the existing travel bubble between australi

haidi: thanks, rebekah jones as melbourne enters a seven-day lockdown.t three days will be crucial. giving you the latest numbers as they get to us. meantime, as mentioned, the vaccination rollout has been slow here in australia. qantas, though, is considering giving away free flights or air miles to people who have had the covid-19 vaccines. they are joining with this growing list of businesses, even governments, that are trying to incentivize people that are complacent or unwilling to get a vaccine to go and get the j abs. we are hearing that fully inoculated qantas flyers could get credits. that is due you to run until the end of 2021. we are expecting the vaccination program to still be really ongoing at that point. shery: we are getting lots of incentives here in the u.s., as well. but i think perhaps a different story to australia, that really doesn't have enough vaccines. here in the u.s., we have about half of all adults fully vaccinated. now we are just trying to get the small group of people that haven't been vaccinated to get a vaccine. we hav

rebekah jones is an imperfect messenger. he's had her issues.o accuse governor desantis of a lack of transparency. months before she was fired before the department of health, months before she became a whistle-blower, the "sun-sentinel" newspaper came out with a scathing expose entitled secrecy and spin, how florida's governor misled the public on the covid-19 pandemic. and they accused the governor of suppressing data that was unfavorable to his administration, dispensing dangerous information, and promoting the views of political hacks instead of the public health officials. and they said that he hid information about the spread of covid in nursing homes, prisons, and hospitals. and that the state's calculation of its positivity rate was different than the methods used in most other states and that it overemphasized the negative tests and thus came up with a low positivity rate compared to other states. and they also found that the state knew they had covid here as soon as january of 2020, 175 cases by february of last year. so all of this st