we have this cross—party group of the rebel alliance, they've been dubbed by the media, they agree onlking in negotiations, bitter and angry discussions in this building behind me, there is no consensus about what they do want. which means going forward, we are in the same position, aren't we? this is one of theissues position, aren't we? this is one of the issues if there was a general election. if you look at the opinion polls, there is time and again, a major outcome is likely to be aim hung parliament, it isn'tjust people in this building over here u.s.—led, but of course the country is split. there may have been some minor variations on the 52— 48%, but actually more or less, this is still actually more or less, this is still a 50-50 actually more or less, this is still a 50—50 split country. this makes it very difficult for the rebel alliance, as they are now known, similarto starwars, to alliance, as they are now known, similar to star wars, to come up with something that gives people together. but we saw yesterday, that singularity of purpose, there is one thing the alliance d

assuming that the rebel alliance have the numbers to actually get things through, i think the only options got is go straight to general election. he would have that sinoti could so i suppose we are looking at october the 14th. tony blair was saying that an election would be an elephant trap for labour, how do you see that? tony blair has a good point there. one of the ways of stopping a no—deal brexit would be simply under the fixed term for two thirds of mps to say i do not want an election. on that basis, borisjohnson could not go ahead. if they wanted to guarantee a new deal, that is the way to go. however, opposition parties cannot go around rejecting an election. labour have been calling for an election for two yea rs. to calling for an election for two years. to turn around now and say we do not want one, which putjeremy corbyn in a difficult position. in terms of, the rebel alliance as you call it, they publish this bill, it will seek a three—month extension u nless will seek a three—month extension unless there is ideal to brexit, do you think they have the numbers to get it thro

so we know that the rebel alliance, including 21 conservative mp5 from last night, are determined tothat is what is happening today. the bill currently being debated would force the prime minister to ask eu for a three—month brexit extension untiljanuary 31 next year. will it pass or will it fail? if it fails, which is looking pretty unlikely, the government then keeps control of the brexit process and the prime minister will seek to leave at the end of october, deal or no—deal. the opposition could call a vote of no confidence. if they did, and they won, that could lead to an election, but brexit time would be really tight. now, if today's vote passes, the question is whether the government will accept it or reject. if the government accepts it, borisjohnson would have to do what he has promised not to do — request another delay to brexit. so if the european council — that's the other 27 leaders — agree, brexit will be delayed until the end of january or possibly even later. if the eu offered a later date, today's bill would force the prime minister to accept it unless it is specifi

at the moment it looks like the rebel alliance the circle rebel alliance might win but this is a very fluid situation so it's really a very very exciting to be here you can see that really tensions you can see and hear feel i think behind me you can see that tensions are really high there are protesters free side and and. and really things that they are and they're right there are people who are for bret's it and they fear that in the end there will be no breaks and so they fear that this is and i'm a they say the sun democratic there are others who say this is so bad for the country to leave without a deal that they really want to do anything and that my it's a make this happen and we'll see we'll know more whether they will be successful at the end of today or the end of today's parliamentary session will get much and i thank you. but hong kong where the embattled the chief executive carried on has insisted she has no intention of stepping down this despite a leaked recording of her saying that she wanted to quit after 3 months of unrest in the chinese territory protestors have expr

grandy of the conservative party one of the key figures in the so-called rebel alliance of m.p.'s opposed to a no deal breaks it allowing him to stand up and make an oral. application he had 3 minutes to do it he took far far less than net asking for a emergency debate on no deal under the terms of what's called an s. so 24 a standing order 24. parliamentary device john bercow. by the arcane procedures of part of approving that request oliver letwin saying simply in light of the government's decision to prorogue parliament next week until october the 14th century send parliament away for 5 weeks it is time for this house to discuss whether we can accept a no deal breaks it now part and parcel of the debate that will take place over the next 3 hours or so it will begin in the next 15 minutes or so will be a vote at the end of the evening and that vote will determine whether the business of the house of commons normally gripped tightly in answer to government can be handed to backbench m.p.'s tomorrow allowing them to table a piece of legislation that is cross party group of m.p.'s

—— rebel alliance, they are not going to back his calls.to see the legislation implemented, they want to see boris johnson to see the legislation implemented, they want to see borisjohnson go off to brussels and ask for a delay to brexit before they are happy to look at the idea of going back to the nation. they say that is the kind of insurance policy they need. borisjohnson using kind of insurance policy they need. boris johnson using some kind of insurance policy they need. borisjohnson using some pretty stark language yesterday saying he would rather be dead in a ditch than seek a delay to brexit. so, boris johnson is now being asked if you are mandated to do this and you won't do it, when you therefore resign? and he is saying it is the hypothesis that he is not entertaining at the moment. monday will be a big day but today has been a big day as well here. the house of lords have approved this legislation, it now heads off to get the royal assent, and joining me now isa the royal assent, and joining me now is a shallow labour leader of

parties and former tories, like ken clarke, pa rt and former tories, like ken clarke, part of this rebel alliancenumbers to take control of every day in parliament that it sits. but it is also the case that they do not agree amongst themselves on what to do next. some of them wa nt on what to do next. some of them want another referendum, some of them want to have a compromise on them want to have a compromise on the deal, some of them frankly are not quite sure, hour by hour, what they would like to do next. where they would like to do next. where they are united is that they want to tie up boris johnson they are united is that they want to tie up borisjohnson as tightly as they possibly can to make sure that he doesn't open the pandora's box of leaving without a deal. and in a funny way, andrew, the court has made history today, but our politics are in almost exactly the same place they were this morning. thank you very much for that. now, we did ask the government for an interview with any of its ministers, but we've been told that they are not doing any interviews this evening. despite these

so-called rebel alliance remain united?s is a key question because this goes to the heart of what happened at the end of october, where brexit goes next. the rebel group is a coalition of labor and others and also ex- conservative mps. together, they make up an alliance who have tried to block a no deal brexit. that is what they agree on that they don't agree on much else. it is difficult to find a course forward. will they tried to put some legal weight behind the bill it was the recent legislation to try and stop the no deal at the end of october? that relies on parliament sitting. if they are nervous about another prorogation, all kinds of things are possible, they could try to add more legislation to the mix. might it be to change the date of brexit, a second referendum? may'sthey try to move deal back to the house of commons? bymany questions provoked the earlier than expected return of the house of commons after the prorogation the never was. nejra: anna edwards in westminster, thank you for joining us. let's check th

jessica, it is called the rebel alliance, it all smacks of star wars.p election in mid october, the rebel alliance, these opposition parties working together will not support that motion and that means it would pass because borisjohnson knows he needs two thirds of mps over in that place in order to get the snap election that he now says he needs to call, because mps are trying to block the possibility of a no—deal brexit, something he says is undermining his negotiating strategy with brussels. that is what they have agreed on. but you're right to point out that the rebel alliance aren't necessarily agreed in terms of the longer term strategy. let's ta ke of the longer term strategy. let's take for example the liberal democrats. they are clear they want to stop brexit altogether, have another referendum, what they would call a pupil is a vote. the labour party, the positions are nuanced. there are absolutely labour mps who are determined to have a referendum, who want to remain and the leadership has said there will be a public vote on any brexit deal,

yes it's a pretty comfortable victory for what's become known as the rebel alliance conservative party and these voting against their own government perhaps in larger numbers than some folks thought and joining a cross party alliance of in these who brought this motion along with a piece of legislation that will be voted on tomorrow. wrote seeking to block a no deal breaks it on october 31st a majority of 27 for that cross party alliance boris johnson speaking afterwards saying that parliament is on the brink of wrecking any deal that might be possible with the european union making the point that he does not want an election to sort this out the people do not want an election to sort these out but seeing no option but to have an election to sort things out before the european union council summit on october 17th at which 80 stuart any last minute deal might be concluded the people he said must decide if it's going to be me going to that summit i will go for a deal and i will get a deal that people must choose boris johnson says that he has formally laid a motion on the order paper for

the rebel alliance have to decide.rty system is really broken down and there are all these photos with this shift of the tory party morphing into a brexit party, a hardcore brexit party. it has left millions of voters politically homeless. from across the spectrum, tory remainers, who want to respect the referendum but don't want no deal, tory brexiteers who don't want no deal. tories of all stripes who believe in fiscal prudence — where do they go in this new setup? i think people are underestimating how many votes the liberal democrats will pick up. i think the lib dems will steal from the tory party and labour. the conservative party is banking on a complete realignment to pick up labour leave voters in the north and that is a real gamble when, at the same time, they have purged tory moderates and ruth davidson in scotland has stepped down and they are likely to lose anywhere between six to ten seats. possibly more. we have only got a few seconds left. before we get to electoral politics, annalisa, surely the questi

because the rebel alliance has control. take control of the parliamentary agenda from 3pm onwards. that says that the government has to table this motion to ask permission to call a general election under the fixed term parliament at which means it needs to thirds of the commons to agree to call an election. the prime minister can no longer just call an election. the prime minister can no longerjust wake up one morning and call an election. so borisjohnson said today morning and call an election. so boris johnson said today that they are very much going to table that motion and they will want to put that forward in front of the commons tomorrow morning. it has to be before 3pm because afterwards the rebel alliance has control. it is not clear at all if he will be able to get that through because mr corbyn, jeremy corbyn, in response today said clearly that he would not allow for an election to happen until the no deal brexit bill is actually going through parliament and no dealers of table. again, that means more uncertaint

that kind of language has rung alarm bells among the so—called rebel alliance.re some, like dominic grieve and others, who seem pretty sure the legislation is watertight. that mrjohnson cannot get round it. others, ithink, getting nervous, the snp are worried that if they go up to october 31 by some sort of legal wheeze, boris johnson will get round that intake is out of the eu regardless. there are moves, and they are only moves at the moment, to try and force a vote of confidence, and then replace borisjohnson vote of confidence, and then replace boris johnson with vote of confidence, and then replace borisjohnson with another prime minister. the problem there is is this other prime minister? we know that the snp are coming around to the idea that they could support jeremy corbyn, the liberal democrats and said no way and they will absolutely not do that. rebel tories, too could not do that. so then, people are casting around, would it be ken clarke? could it be amber rudd? basically all sorts of ideas in the mix, i don't think at the moment there is a firm pl

the so—called rebel alliance say that when their mps vote again on an election on monday — they'll eithertain or vote against. we we're in agreement that the prime minister is on the run. boris is broken. we have an opportunity to bring down boris, to break boris, and to bring down brexit. and we must take that. the prime minister says he won't contemplate the idea of resigning if he hasn't delivered brexit by the end of october and says he will get a deal. they don't trust the people. they don't want an election. 0k. perhaps it is that they don't think that they will win. fine. i'll go to brussels, i'll get a deal, and we'll make sure we come out on october 31st. we'll have the latest from westminster where some mps say an election is now unlikely before november — also this lunchtime. robert mugabe — the liberator of zimbabwe who became its dictator — has died at the age of 95. hurricane dorian has caused "unimaginable destruction" according to the government of the bahamas. and does this footage show the late sinn fein leader martin mcguinness making a car bomb during the troubles? and

rebel alliance's is being called go straight through the house of commons the lower chamber. the house of lords and set the government again to try and slow it down why. because the clock is not just checking for the thirty first of october. any deal or no deal but it's taking because you'll remember that last week the prime minister in a surprise. move up. also provocation until the fourteenth of october all of. the house of commons unprecedented five weeks. in a row and he got that sense royal assent hours later. so this has to make it through. without without amendments the upper chamber it might need to do the painful process. go from. the but check back to the chamber it's. what is it really needs done by five pm london time. friday up because as of monday the government. can suspend. parliament and what we are waiting for now in the next fifteen to twenty minutes as you said in your introduction. is this response again predicted announced at the dispatch box in the house of commons off to that. key defeat last night to humiliate them baffled a new prime minister for six

tomorrow, the so—called rebel alliance will have control of parliamentary business, the legislation toat separate motion from the prime minister for a that separate motion from the prime ministerfor a general that separate motion from the prime minister for a general election. that separate motion from the prime ministerfor a general election. you are watching bbc news. still with me here is laura trott, former adviser to david cameron... talking justin hardy went to vicki. —— just talking before to vicki. he made a promise to the rebel alliance, they would get the bill through which stop say no—deal brexit before agreeing to any general election. there is also the matter of the date. jeremy corbyn and the labour party are worried if they agree to a general election, borisjohnson rectory push that puts brexit to me that brexit would happen while a general election was taking place. saying that

if not, whether the legislation put in by the rebel alliance passes or not, we are about to go into aeriod where parliament is suspended, that has already been agreed. we know there are legal challenges to that. in scotland, here in london, in northern ireland. essentially we have a game of three—dimensional chess going on and i don't think many people know how to play that very well. thank you, chris morris. time for a look at the weather here's chris fawkes. thank you, simon. i will bring you the latest in hurricane dorian. believe it or not, this is 2a others worth of satellite pictures and you can see the grand bahama wall has been peddling —— you can see the eye will has been pummelling grand bahama. florida is 100 miles to the west, winds are only 3a, so we go from a light breeze to something which can rip your house apart in just 30 miles. if the storm works northwards, a small deviation could bring much more severe conditions to the us coastline, which is why we are monitoring this very carefully. in the uk, a pretty cloudy day for most of us, summer rain across north—western

do think the so—called rebel alliance have the numbers to get the legislation through?pa rt through? speaking to people who are part of what someone describing as a rebel alliance, they seem pretty confident that they can get the legislation, at least through the commons, although it has to get through the house of lords and both chambers ina through the house of lords and both chambers in a pretty short space of time, because of course, thinking back to last week's big news, if you can remember, the talk was how boris johnson had sent three of its privy council is off to bell moral in order to ask the queen to suspend parliament starting at some point between the ninth and the 12th of 0ctober. —— bell balmoral. that in itself isn't guaranteed either, in order to push through that legislation. those pushing the idea seemed confident in the numbers, but borisjohnson has seemed confident in the numbers, but boris johnson has been seemed confident in the numbers, but borisjohnson has been trying to turn up heat tonight, coming out on the steps of downing street and saying

heated scenes inside the house of commons conservative party rebels have joined in the so-called rebel alliance bringing this motion in the 1st place who will vote against their own government later being accused of standing our against in their attempt to subvert the people's will the democracy in the referendum and try to interrupt boris johnson's promise of a no deal if no deal can be reached on the 31st of october and john bercow the speaker his decision being challenged in this debate to allow the debate in the vote to go ahead he says he will carry on unperturbed do or die he said echoing boris johnson's own promise to bring the brakes it to pass on october the 31st do or die let me bring in my guest now craig dillon is a digital strategist founder of westminster digit digital you ran boris johnson's digital campaign as part of his leadership campaign strategy what's the strategy now do you think craig the strategy is very complicated at the moment there's a lot of things at stake we don't really know what's going to happen the power is now going into the hands of parliament so what we've

you watching, keep those questions coming, e—mail is on the screen and we are talking about the rebel alliancehe leader of the house jacob rees—mogg. the leader of the house has rebelled against the conservative led government more than 100 times and has been rewarded with a place on the front bench. criticism of jacob rees—mogg criticism ofjacob rees—mogg as he sat in the comments earlier on and defended that approach the premise that was taking and argue to support the option to take no—deal brexit off the table would a and at the prime minister's ability to a deal. that clip highlighted what we have known for a long time. the conservative party has been divided over europe for many years but has never reached a breaking point. it's getting closer by the day. among the rebels who will vote against the government today, you'll find the former attorney general dominic grieve, formerjustice secretary david gauke, former minister rory stewart and former chancellor philip hammond. if you know if you are watching in the uk... philip hammond's nickname while chancellor was "spreadsheet phil". but t

we should be reminding people, what they are attempting to do, the so—called rebel alliance, is takeomorrow. this is the sort of thing that would never happen in normal times. never in the history before recently have we seen backbench mps do this, but with the health of the common speakerjohn bercow, having a vote to ta ke speakerjohn bercow, having a vote to take control of parliaments tomorrow and put forward their own laws instead of the way the government would normally do it. this would be in a series of big votes tonight. if they win tonight, as we expect them to come and they will have control of parliament tomorrow and tomorrow afternoon, they will bring forward this law they will bring forward this law they think is going to rule out a no—deal brexit. there will be more votes to come afternoon the night but the important point is that they got the numbers to win tonight, and they think they've got the win tomorrow as well tomorrow, the same mps turning up tomorrow to get the bill into law. how many rebels? the whips have been implying the thumbscrews today. how many have ta

but it still doesn't seem the numbers at their front of you have the rebel alliance this afternoon, andthe deal or at least be taken at the table for a few months. is that your reading? a lot of reading going on today. lib dem this morning gave their view. but i spoke to the snp this afternoon. they gave me an impression they would back a one aligned bill for a general election. they want to amend it and wa nt election. they want to amend it and want to admit that so they can also get it in this extension to article 50 so they can try and nail the two things together. the snp are definitely working on an idea and labour are working in the liberal democrats put out their plan this morning was that which is to try and make sure they can delay brexit and bring that date up. they want to bring that date up. they want to bring it to october 19. i lot of techy little things going on in meetings. on a brighter point. the prime minister making his first appearance in the comments since the cursing ruling yesterday. a lot of call for him to resign. he made it clear he will tough it out. and he r

he made a promise to the rebel alliance, they would get the bill through which stop say no—deal brexite agreeing to any general election. there is also the matter of the date. jeremy corbyn and the labour party are worried if they agree to a general election, borisjohnson rectory push that puts brexit to me that brexit would happen while a general election was taking place. saying that he wants to go back to the eu on the 17th of october and saying that he thinks that he can get a deal that he wants to be the man making the dealfor get a deal that he wants to be the man making the deal for the get a deal that he wants to be the man making the dealfor the uk. get a deal that he wants to be the man making the deal for the uk. an early election allows boris johnson to still say october the 31st do or die,| to still say october the 31st do or die, iwant to still say october the 31st do or die, i want a deal but i am prepared to do you know deal so it keeps this kind of campaign promises from the leadership campaign intact and no options have been ruled out that the question will be whether

strong the opposition against boris johnson is within his own party so bob if this this so-called rebel alliance does when we have a prime minister who says that he will not ask brussels for a delayed so what will happen next. that there are several big questions here because 1st chance in this afternoon when he was asked would he obey that law which he sort of follow. man in one sentence he said yes he would do that he would fail to tie to it and then just a few minutes later he said no of course under no circumstances he would sort of go back to brussels and i asked why nothing sentient and there's room there here that boris johnson has already worked out a strategy how to circumvent this and that is asking somebody l.-i to him in the european union may be behind gary and prime minister are that you could even do it was is. what she said if it impede the for negation off the off britain stay in the european union said it would impede another new date set for the end of it gedge enery so there is a lot of constitutional and political scholars dockery going on here and boris johnson is capable o

majority of 29 because caroline spelman, the former chair of the party, rebelled to join the rebel alliancet losing the whip, unlike the other 21 rebels. this has been explained by downing street by the same about yesterday was a confidence matter, whereas this is not, that some of the 20 when i've spoken to are not particularly happy about it. they have just lost their political careers, they are now blocked from standing at the next election, the yet dame caroline essentially voted at the same thing as being allowed to stay in the party. so it will be interesting to see whether the alliance grows and builds throughout the evening. but on the amendments, i think they will go through pretty much unscathed. the real action will be in the house of lords where there are 90 amendments to a very basic business motion to set the terms of the debate, and the person brought suitcases, duvets, shaving kits and toothbrushes, to stay all night to try to get this thing through before parliament is prorogued on monday. maybe we should do the same, it would save us from going home! as you can see, they a

a rebel alliance of lawmakers rose up against uk prime minister johnson. and put a stop to a no deal brexit. the mime minister sacked 21 member of his party who backed the measure and made good on the threat to seek a general election. even though he says it's not his first choice. >> cnn went to south of england. residents overwhelmingly voted to leave the eu in the 2016 referendum. she's there to find out what they're saying about brexit and the debate. rite now. take a listen. >> didn't just vote to leave in 2016. and overwhelmingly so. more recently this year a parliament election there was a very strong vote from this area for the brexit party. that's a newly formed party. sentiments has not shifted. speaking to people in town today there's a huge sense of frustration. the government and parliament broadly have failed to tlifr deliver the brexit >> it's horrible. i think we need to get on with it. >> how is boris johnson doing? >> seems to be doing a good job if only he can get us out on the 31st. >> would you rather have no deal or a delay? >> no dea

this cross—party group of mps, the so—called rebel alliance, today, as we we re so—called rebel allianceey won't back those calls on monday, not because they claim they don't wa nt not because they claim they don't want a general election but because they want to see this possible extension to brexit set in stone. they want to see boris johnson extension to brexit set in stone. they want to see borisjohnson go off to brussels, ask that extension and you've got to look at the politics of this, perhaps they are assessing that if borisjohnson were forced to do that and then there we re forced to do that and then there were a general election, he would be ina were a general election, he would be in a difficult place because what he has said over and over again is do oi’ has said over and over again is do ordie, the has said over and over again is do or die, the 31st of october, and of course yesterday he said he would rather be dead in a ditch than ask for a day that seems to be the plan at the moment from the opposition groups. no sign yet that boris johnson is really willing to ask for a d

all of these parts of the rebel alliance, of the labour party, the rubble tories, and others, they alsoferent takes. the s&p says the bill -- a general election has to be agree to before next week. talk about how they won't agree to a general election unless brussels has agreed to the extension. the labor position is they need the bill to be the u.k. law. all of that does not answer the question of when the general election will be or which side of october 31 it will fall. either side still looks possible. taylor: let me just all this over -- francine: -- the markets? sorry, go ahead. s, i can tell what is worse, the fact the market can breed of siebel a relief now that -- can breathe a sigh of relief or another three months of a waiting game. how do the markets respond? >> i think the markets will respond positively to the increasing certainty that there is no deal off the table. but that is not a given at the moment. i would have thought markets would have responded much more negatively to the trade war in the uncertainty we see in the world, but of course, with interest rates the way

yesterday in a the lib demsg to and if i'm not mistaken, he has fired ours going to fire 20 of the rebel alliancet you talk about, or of his own rebels. what is with the disintegration of the conservative party? fired 21 rebels last night, they have all been brought out from the conservative party including people who were in the cabinet under theresa may. former chancellor fitment -- philip hammond, these are big names. the business secretary graig clark also gone. people who have spent decades in nowconservative party accusing him of trying to change the party. they say it is not they have changed but the party that has moved away from him, conservative party that they no longer recognize. whether we're watching the disintegration of the conservative party or forcing them coalesce around a brexit message to take on with more strength the brexit party, we will have to see over the days ahead. some amazing names going from the conservative party yesterday in that purge, including the grandson of winston churchill who was thrown out of the party yesterday. nejra: anna edwards in westminster, thank

the question tonight, who is going to win this showdown, the prime minister or the so-called rebel alliancebarbara: in all likelihood, the rebels are going to win the showdown tonight because looking at the numbers, there is enough to defeat boris johnson to vote him down. the first step is going to be the takeover, and that will happen tonight within one or two hours time. the first step is to take over the agenda from the government and to propose a law that ties his hands, that makes it impossible for boris johnson, his government, to pursue a hard brexit without a deal with the european union. that is the intention. the rebels will manage to do that. however, if we look further down the road, we don't know who will gain and who will win in this situation where maneuvers, parliamentary maneuvers, the bending of rules and constitutional are really what rule the action of parliament now, and particularly, the actions of boris johnson. brent: that's right. definitely an exciting night where you are. barber weighs all, on the story for us. thank you. here are the other stories making headlin

that is what the rebel alliance is trying to bring. to get that have to take is a step forward to blocking that deal. what happens after october 31 is still unclear could that unclear. it takes is at to january 31 and there is little the rebel alliance agrees on. what the future direction would be would still be a big question. politics.e latest on seem to be heading towards the general election but the timing of all of this is still up in the air and the markets react to every movement. let's get a first word news update. let's go to tom mackenzie in beijing. -- an island a 50,000 people is 70% underwater after being added by hurricane dorian. they are still conducting rescue missions on the grand bahamas and the deputy prime minister says it is quote not looking good, we expect catastrophic damage. meanwhile, the u.s. has declared an emergency in north carolina as dorian heads to the coast. minister ise prime said -- set to form the next government after the five-star movement back to the alliance with the democratic party in an onli

anna: is there trouble within the rebel alliance?are suggesting you are maybe afraid of an election. john: what we have been saying is we need to do this together. we want a general election just as much as they do. i want to get rid of this boris johnson government as much -- as fast as we can, but the date is key. a date that secures our own overall policy objectives and then have a general election? anna: so your policy seems clear. the policy of brexit seems pretty mixed, the pulse suggest the public is confused. what will your brexit policy the -- be? john: a second referendum. but a public vote overall is the best way of resolving this matter. there are those who would campaign for remain and there will be others who want to see others but nobody wants a no deal brexit. anna: you could still be out there campaigning for two different things. john: the party will make its mind of and we will have our normal process. but there are always some within different parties who have different views. my view at the moment is to remain, b

also, i wonder if the rebel alliance will stay together here. a question, because were member, the alliance was brought together by a no deal brexit, but there is not much that binds them otherwise, and they have very different views on a whole host of things, even different views on whether or not there should be a brexit, but we will see if they manage to hold together. they took action, you remember, before the prorogation that never happened, and a bill, which meant that boris johnson had to go to brussels to ask for t does noton so brexi on october 31.ke perhaps they want to put in place more legislation and get more support to the idea that they can prevent a no deal brexit. we heard from the man he used to be the attorney general, one of the key former torys in that remain alliance, if you like, against boris johnson, and he said, "we will not go out on accident on october 31." there is a key question if the rebels can come together. we have also heard from the jeremy corbyn. they will try to get rid of boris johnson, essentially, but to

the rebel alliance of former tories kicked out of the party have the numbers to take control of eventsere. one cabinet minister said to me today that borisjohnson has completely lost control of the brexit policy, but the difficulty for them and frankly therefore for all of us and everybody who wants to see the process move on, somehow, is that they don't agree amongst themselves what to do next. so although the court made history today, we are actually still in pretty much the same situation. we have a prime minister who is determined above all else to deliver what people voted for in the 2016 referendum, at the end of october, no matter what. a parliament that is determined that he should not be allowed to do that, if it means opening the pandora's box of leaving without a deal. and nobody still in enough numbers are really in the mood to come together around any sort of compromise, whatever it could be. and that may well make some people want to throw the remote at the tv, but while the court has made a big, bold decision today based on the law, our politics is still pretty much stuc

tonight who's going to win this showdown the prime minister we're you know this the so-called rebel alliance. in all likelihood the rebels are getting to be in the showdown tonight because looking at the numbers all observers here say there is enough air to defeat to boris johnson to sort of vote him down now the 1st step is going to be. that take to take over and that will happen tonight is within one or 2 hours' time the 1st step is to take over the edge gender from the government and to for help is the law that ties his hands that makes it impossible for boris johnson and his government to pursue a hard right sit without it deal with the european union that's the intention and the rebels will manage to do that however if we look further down the road we don't know who it is again and who will sit in when the situation where maneuver is parliamentary maneuver is the bending of rules and constitutional scholars dungaree i really would sort of rule the at the action of problem and now and particular the actions of force johnson writes definitely an exciting night where you are almost 4 floor

they've been dubbed the rebel alliance, prompting graphics like this from the sunday times. ebels, former chancellor philip hammond, former attorney general dominic grieve, former justice secretary david gauke and a former minister rory stewart. the bbc‘s political editor laura kuenssberg says she's been told the rebels‘ plan is to pass a bill to "force a three month extension of brexit untiljan 31st, if there is no new deal or if parliament has agreed to no deal by october 19th." there's further pressure because the rebels have been warned they will have to sit in parliament as independents if they vote for this — and are being threatened with not representing the conservatives in the next election. theresa may's decision making was in part guided by a profound desire to keep the conservative party together. mrjohnson appears willing to risk a split. here's one of the rebels. i think it is a very, very bad outcome, but i have a responsibility to do something about that and if that means that my career comes to an end,i that means that my career comes to an end, i would be ob

following two big stories in the uk, a major blow to the prime minister boris johnson after a rebel alliance of lawmakers seize control of parliament. but we also begin with the very latest on the destructive path of hurricane dorian. >>> for almost two days now, hurricane dorian smothered the bahamas. we heard reports of utter devastation. well, now we get to see the destruction. parts of the island are in ruins. as you can see from these aerial images, many, many areas underwater, homes ripped apart, communities gutted. flooding is a threat to rescue efforts as well and the rescuers themselves, in fact. every day people are using boats and jet skis, putting their lives at risk to save others. at the moment, the storm killed at least seven people, but the prime minister expects that to rise, and he's called dorian a historic tragedy. >> we are in the midst of one of the greatest national crises in our country's history. the government will bring to bear every resource of state possible to help the people of abaco and grand bahama or any other island nation that's necessary. >> well, as the

guardian has gone with the same image and says borisjohnson is short of options as the so called rebel alliance. the "i" reports that opposition parties are holding borisjohnson hostage on his planned motion for an early general election. the paper says the prime minister is caught between breaking his promise to leave the eu on october 31st or resigning just two months into thejob. meanwhile, the financial times weekend leads with the shadow chanchellor‘s pledge to end the culture of huge bonuses in the financial services sector. prince william speaks about his fury over what he calls ‘outrageous' incidents of racism in football, fuelled by social media that's on the front of the daily express. and an investigation by the daily mirror finds that endangered species of sharks are being served up to customers at fish and chip shops. it's been an interesting one. 0k, martin and bonnie, we are going to start off with, we have to start off with brexit, boris johnson, start off with, we have to start off with brexit, borisjohnson, the times. johnson is told to get plan b. mark, want to kick us off. h

david: the speaker will have to give the rebel alliance the parliamentary times their first day backer summer recess. he will have to give them time to propose this bill. then there will be a boat -- vote. it will take multiple days to get that deal into law. if there is no deal, the government is mandated to ask for an extension if there is no deal to up to january 31 from october 31. and then to get parliament to approve a no deal. last night, the prime minister said very clearly that he will not tolerate it, he will not have his strategy undermined in that way. clearly that's where we are heading. number 10, briefing everybody last night. motiond bring forward a tomorrow if they lose tonight with a date for an election of october 14. matt: how big is that if? what is boris johnson -- what's the likelihood that boris johnson loses tonight? david: it's a little bit tough to call. he's only got a working majority of one. he said yesterday in his remarks that he expects to actually win that boat tonight -- that boat tonight. -- that vote tonight. philip hammond was the chancellor of t

turning a surrender deal we're talking about we've heard these words no use for what 36 hours a rebel alliance we're talking about m.p.'s seizing power we're talking about hashtags stop the coup if you've been following this on twitter also he didn't really give an answer there was one m.p. there asked him to confirm what is being discussed what is on the table because there is a quite small compared to the size of the team that reason means to send to brussels and strasburg there is a u.k. break that negotiating team in brussels as we speak quite a small team nothing new has been put on the table that was the central accusation levelled at mr johnson he didn't really reply so we don't know what the concrete proposals are will stay with these pictures mr johnson is still on his feet for a 2nd and let's just rewrite the tapes and show you what he's been talking about just in the past hour or so the only thing that standing is standing you know in our way is the undermining of those negotiations by this surrender bill which would be to move to that and we delayed in march we delayed a bill and n

wouldn't be anything like as bad as some people suggest but they won't release documents and so the rebel alliance as it's called is trying to force them to do that but after that on the some point lights nights parliament is suspended for 5 weeks so the absolute fury of the opposition it's the longest purgation of suspension of parliament's ever believe a month and saying and you have to assume in that time that the government's going to go away and boris johnson is going to try as hard as he can if you are true to his word of getting some sort of new deal together with the european union even if for the moment the european union as you heard live right to say in that report has absolutely no idea what these alternative proposals actually are. so if as expected parliament is then suspended and then for the next 5 weeks what what what what can we expect over those 5 weeks then until that time until last couple of weeks in october. i think i think what happens because the suspension coincides with all the party conferences the liberal democrats the labor party and the conservatives all have their p

s who are voting against him and with what he calls the rebel alliance that they will be dissipated and they weren't be able to stand for the next election say philip please move to the lib dems is and reaction to what dr johnson is doing also it begs the question if he might have if it might backfire because he really has talent m.p.'s against him 10 m.p.'s that might have been thinking about whether they should support the government or not and with this threat that they would be diesel lect it it has been seen by many m.p.'s as as like a declaration of war and it might turn against boris johnson so now that for they believe has gone with a view of the side as it were abolished owns and has no majority in parliament today one of the big events will be this this this bill about whether trying to control the government business just talk us through what vast is and who looks likely to win. well m.p.'s have really tried to come together and the last days and weeks and they want to prevent britain from leaving the european union at the end of october without any deal many m.p.'s just see

this rebel alliance is saying we've got to get this no deal breck's it bill through parliament before we can start talking about an election but pressure is on him not least from his own m. pays him particularly those on his front bench but also by all the parties the scottish nationalists in scotland they're desperate for an election and they will be putting pressure on jeremy corbyn to say yes we'll go for an election but we need to say what the data is the problem is can they guarantee that boris johnson or his those people around him a very strong a will and here to any date that is set there is still a lot to play for with in parliament right on its finest wanting to thank you very much for setting light on this rather complicated issue at the moment. so they've been having a tough day if it's among the stories making news around the world iran is a balance it with release 7 crew members of the detained british flacks tanka the stana and pedal the ship was detained by iran's revolutionary guards in the strait of hormuz in july 2 weeks after britain seized an iranian tanker off th

how effective do you see this rebel alliance at turning its rainbow of outrage into action?using to reflect that this is going to be an astonishing a few days. that sort of cliche, parliament versus the executive, really taking tangible form. the answer is that we know certain things. we know the majority in the house of commons is opposed to no deal because there have been previous votes where they have expressed this. we know also that the speaker, john bercow, is a pro—parliamentary figure. some, unfairly so, say he will act for remainers but it's not that — he will facilitate parliament having a voice. that is two very big advantages for this fractious group of rebels, which include tories who want a deal and out, some labour people who want us to remain in after a referendum and so on. two very big advantages. on the other side, when you look at the pattern of this whole saga from the beginning, the hardline brexiteers win every time. they forced a weak prime minister, david cameron, into holding a referendum. they won the referendum. they did not like theresa may's dea

and when the eu looks at the so—called rebel alliance now it can see yes, they are united about wantingd about what kind of brexit, if any, they do want. so you see here in the eu there's a feeling that a general election or another brexit extension, they've been around this block before and they will hear the prime minister tonight saying he's going to come to brussels now in mid—october at the eu leaders‘s summit and get a new deal. but the european commission today was very clear and scathing about the prime minister's comments, those in that negotiations with the eu are going swimmingly. their main reaction is to say that more or less, they are going to republish their no—deal brexit and this is a message for borisjohnson to say yes, we know you want to avoid a new deal, but we won't avoid it at any cost. were not scared, we think they're prepared and the eu may be not as good a wordsmith is the prime minister sometimes is, that is their way of trying to say bring it on. hurricane dorian is now moving up the east coast of the united states, after having remained almost stationary ov

so what does the rebel alliance want?viously, and opposition leaders want an election after that mission is accomplished. meanwhile, in meetings, on social media, in the tea rooms and among the statues, some outcast tories and labour mps want a brexit deal. others want a referendum. labour is promising one after the election, maybe on a new deal, if there is one, otherwise a choice between no—deal and remain. and that's what the lib dems want. they want to stop brexit. and so does the snp, who believe this crisis could be taking us closer to an independent scotland — the end of the union. now, down there, perhaps the most genteel debating chamber in the democratic world, well, things are about to turn ugly. this country has high standards... the lords must pass the rebel bill too. in debates, in debates about debates, opposing sides doing all they can to support or resist the attempt to rule out a no—deal brexit and bind the prime minister's hands by law. signs are it will be as passionate, maybe as bad—tempered, as the u