sean: he went on to advise viewers to, quote, draw their own conclusions that these were the same recordingingsd by mother jones. the fbi is investigating whether laws were broken. joining us jordan secculo and fox news contributor tamara holder. thanks for being with us. >> thanks, sean. >> sean: first of all, i don't see anything on this that was tasteless, tamara. anything that was said in the meeting? it's just typical op research that every campaign goes through. anything there that you heard that they said that crossed a line in your mind? >> oh, you know, of course not. it's typical mcconnell speech, you know. just that how dare ashley judd actually support president obama, which i think the majority of americans actually supported him in 2012 as well. >> sean: that's not what we're talking about. >> are you kidding me? minutes?listen to the 12 they said how dare she be a democrat, how dare she like president obama. >> it's called messaging. it's part of campaigns, you come up with a theme, this is a pro-obama stuff who writes stuff about herself in a book and we're going to put it out t