the initiatives that samhsa and, and the federal government have supported around the access to recovery program, the recovery community support programs, that foster this peer-to-peer interaction where they're non-traditional approaches, but that, creating that peer-to-peer interaction, i think is just so critical. now it's not a slight on the academics or the, the clinical or the treatment professional, but there's that empathy factor between one person that has experienced this helping another person. and i think we need to promote more of that. so i'm, i'm a big believer that money isn't the answer to everything, but i believe that samhsa hit on something when they were funding those type of programs. and in doing so, those individuals that are helping each other, maybe they can help each other on the language front as well as how do they view themselves...absolutely. ...and how do i want to go back to john, john, talk to me about some of the articles where people can access more information, if i wanted to learn more about this. you mentioned that you had authored some articles that may be helpful. well yeah the,

the initiatives that samhsa and, and the federal government have supported around the access to recovery program, the recovery community support programs, that foster this peer-to-peer interaction where they're non-traditional approaches, but that, creating that peer-to-peer interaction, i think is just so critical. now it's not a slight on the academics or the, the clinical or the treatment professional, but there's that empathy factor between one person that has experienced this helping another person. and i think we need to promote more of that. so i'm, i'm a big believer that money isn't the answer to everything, but i believe that samhsa hit on something when they were funding those type of programs.

talk to us a little bit about the recovery community support programs, because in some states we do have a cadre of individuals who are in recovery who basically provide each other with the support networks, and-which are very effective. you know, i think this is-this came in some ways out of an aa model years ago where the assumption was that it was up to the individuals themselves and government really couldn't help this or paid programming really couldn't help this. and i think what we understand is that, while that is absolutely critical, that sometimes the people who are trying to help each other need a little support themselves. so things i talked about earlier, some transportation assistance, just supporting each other and families, and just having opportunities to socialize in ways that are positive, so there's a whole lot about this program that allows a little more flexibility than we normally would put into a program, which tends to like to fund counseling and detox and things of that nature. so this is more the life issues and supporting people who are in recovery who are try

assistance program, maybe through having something like a chemical health specialist in their buildings to help facilitate and support those students. or if their local community doesn't have a recovery high school or collegiate program, maybe being able to support those students when they're returning from treatment so that they can have access to an adult who is trained in dealing with addiction and recovery. mark had mentioned earlier that, you know, an adolescent coming out of treatment and working on recovery is going to have issues and they're going to need support and the families need support and education on what that's going to look like. and the schools can also be a part of helping facilitate and educate those families and support those families and students when they return. and just to add one thing, there's also this emerging peer-support models in public schools that we're seeing in connecticut and we're seeing successful uses of support models within a school system where they're addressing, you know, alcohol and drug use, maybe not always to dependent, fully dependent kids, but maybe at risk youth so they would bridge sort of that prevention and recovery sector and

community. and that's an excellent point. and after that, monique, comes the offering of the recovery school. yeah. recovery schools are really college and high school programs that provide academic and recovery support for students who are in need of that type of support. it's like greg mentioned that connection with peers who are like you and are struggling like you to find this journey of recovery. i think that recovery schools can provide the academic support that are so needed for students who are early in recovery and are making that transition into hopefully long-term sustainable recovery. they provide embedded recovery supports within the programs that address...such as... things like the academic support, help with schooling. a lot of times when students have been using, they miss out key things in their academics. they also provide, recovery schools also provide mental health supports, support related to their addiction recovery, relapse prevention, all those things that are essential to helping increase days abstinence and reduce days using. are the tutors, i suspect some tutoring goes on, are they from the peer group themselves or how are they offered to the membership that attend recover