red cross or directly? >> absolutely not. no. absolutely not. >> which is obviously, you know, against all international regulations and the red cross hasn't had access to them. what, the three phases. i'm wondering what you make of this actual plan and the chance that one of these phases may fall apart? >> well, hamas has always violated the ceasefire. it violated the ceasefire on october 7th, 2023, there was a cease fire. it violated the last ceasefire of november 2023. so the chances that hamas would violate the ceasefire again are very, very great, especially if you have all these different factions in gaza. and hamas will say, we're not in control of them. they're going to start firing phase 133 hostages, 42 day cease fire, releasing 1300 prisoners, terrorists from israeli jails, additional aid for gaza. all of that looks very good on paper. the second phase would cause for a further israeli withdrawal from the gaza strip. right now, that first phase calls for israeli troops to withdraw from very densely populated areas. >> it would be a complete withdrawal of israeli troops over a second and third at the end. >> that's it. the war is over. and then hamas can basically say, we're going to come out of the tunnels and we're going to retake the gaza strip. >> the talk was in the third phase. there would be a plan. i know blinken has put forward a sort of outlines of a plan, um, for the reconstruction, for the rebuilding and the ruling of gaza. i mean, there's a lot of how what would that even look like? i mean, is hamas, uh, capable? i mean, are they so degraded that they are not a power there anymore? that seems unlikely. >> i don't think so. and maybe one thing missing from from jerry jarman's report was that hamas is still firing. they've killed something in the order of 60 soldiers over the last couple of weeks. they keep on firing rockets at southern israeli communities. it is still a military force, and there are entire battalions. so the talk of mice that have not been degraded at all, a reconstituted palestinian authority in the first phase, somehow coming in, or an international force from, from, you know, uae or qatar coming in. well, to be fair, what the biden administration wanted was a reconstituted palestinian authority. it's a very corrupt and ineffective body and have it come back into gaza and assume some type of administrative role. back in 2005, they were they got beat by by hamas within a matter of days, even though they had received a tremendous amount of american military training. it all went down, went down the drain in a matter of days. the question is, is the palestinian authority any more capable today of assuming those responsibilities? the israeli government? i'm not a spokesman, but this is pretty much what they want. they would like to have local administrators, palestine administrators, who are not affiliated with hamas, take over the daily running of the strip and have an international force, particularly with a large inter-arab component from the uae, egypt, other countries come in and actually take care of the the general reconstruction of gaza. there's a lot to be constructed, but i.t. security control would remain very much in the hands of israeli security forces and the idf, and they're not going to outsource that to anybody else. nobody knows at this point, anderson, what's going to be the assumption would be on the part of the government is that phase two and phase three are a very, you know, two bridges very, very, very far. >> yeah. ambassador oren, i appreciate your time. thank you. thank you. two of the many people hanging on every new development are adi and angel alexander. they're the parents of edan alexander, an israeli-american soldier with the idf who was born in tel aviv, raised in new jersey. he's 21 years old. his parents join us now. i appreciate you coming back on the program. how? first of all, how are you both doing? how do you believe? i mean, do you believe a deal will will actually get made, that this will actually happen? >> hi. good evening. um. the deal is going to happen. like, we are going to see something on sunday or monday. we're going to start seeing releases of hostages. um, it's very it's very emotional. like yesterday i was sitting watching the television, seeing the prime minister of qatar giving the the statement that the deal is on. and then president biden and you know, and i'm crying and i'm not like it's very it's very emotional to know that the deal is coming. we are not sure that our son is in the list, and we don't know when we are going to see him. >> have you have you gotten any word about your son? >> uh, yeah. the, um, uh, if you remember, anderson, the the thanksgiving weekend. yeah. hamas releases his video. that was a first sign of life for us. we we haven't seen our son for more than a year. um, but other hostages that were released back in november of 2023, they saw it on the tunnels. and, um, he was seen also on october 7th, uh, being taken into those tunnels. but we saw him for the first time on thanksgiving saturday. >> and don is not expected, i assume, to be in the first group of hostages released. um, it's being done by age and sort of physical condition. i think if somebody is wounded. how concerned are you about, you know, the potential deal if it happens staying intact long enough. so don will be released. >> we have to stay hopeful and just to convey the message to the negotiating teams, uh, both qataris and israelis and our american team. do not wait those 16 days in order to move to a second phase, we have to start to negotiate immediately for the second phase, uh, five minutes from now. uh, so hopefully between now and 42 days from now, we will see our son getting out. >> what, um. what impact do you think the incoming administration had on getting this deal so close to to being done? there's a lot of credit being given. i mean, obviously, like the biden administration has been working on this a long time. a lot of others have. and president trump made forceful comments, and a lot of people have credited those comments with pressuring both israel and and hamas and qatar and others. >> um um, i feel that it had a great impact, uh, actually, using the january 20th as a deadline. uh, it was a great thing that was never done before. no deadlines in a negotiation. it dragged for so many months. um, and the firm language, um, from, uh, from the president elect trump, uh, was absolutely necessary. um, we have to be tough with the enemies and with the friends, including all the friends, including israel. and it worked this time. >> um, yael, what do you want people to know about it? on? >> he done. he done is a beautiful kid. he's so friendly, so caring. i just, you know, i miss him so much. i dream about him a lot. like, i dream about the moment that i'm seeing him. and i can just hug him. and just to tell him, like, how much we love him and how much we fight for him. and, you know, just our family is so torn and, you know, it's very, very tough. like, we want him back, like, i can i can feel it's coming, but we are still not there and we have to continue with, to push and to fight until he will back home to jersey and all the hostages, all the other hostages that are. >> he'll be incredibly proud of you. how far, how much you fought. >> i don't know if you remember, but i remember the day that we saw you in tel aviv. i remember, and we stopped the car and we jumped on you and we were like, oh, my god, we are hostage family. we came from america and this and that. and we were like, on the way to meet blinken. yeah. and this is the day that we got the announcement that iran is a hostage, like it was such crazy days in israel. >> and and finally we're there. >> yeah, yeah. >> i'm feeling this is it. >> i remember that day very, very well. adi and yael, thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much. thank you. good evening. >> i hope 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ground for underground hotspots that they put out. separately, law enforcement officials today allowed some residents in the eden and palisades evacuation zones whose homes did not burn, to return. for those who were not so lucky, though, it's a different story. cnn's veronica miracle has more. >> absolutely devastating to not even be able to see your own home after such a travesty for 20 years. >> so where else do i go? >> many eaton fire victims are feeling frustrated tonight. >> i didn't take anything for myself. i didn't take anything. >> thousands of homeowners ordered to stay away from their property, not only because of downed power lines or leaking gas, but because there are areas that we are holding because we believe there may be deceased victims there. and public health officials say a lot of the debris left behind is dangerous. >> initially, toxicity from any of the high levels of particulate matter and ash in the air can cause respiratory irritation. but we're also concerned about some of the potential impacts from heavy metals or long term impacts. >> still, many feel unsatisfied. >> do you see a lot of the hazards, though, and what they're contending with? some of the toxic ash in the air? >> that is all. besides that, there's nothing tough. i smell it all day. >> so what dirty air to us is like. but what about our homes? >> but officials are pleading for residents to follow their guidance until they mark areas safe. >> we know people feel very strongly they want to get in there. first and foremost is follow the, you know, the advice on all of those agencies that are going to come in and look at the home. >> days after the devastation, officials scrambling to help frustrated angelenos receive insurance payouts. >> we want them to start the claim process immediately. >> the county now gathering and posting photos of individual losses from the palisades fire and eaton fire on a website for residents that need proof of destruction for their insurance providers, insured or not. many fire survivors have nowhere to turn, and some are making personal appeals all over altadena. we are seeing signs like this pop up in front of people's burned out homes. they're leaving their qr code that links directly to their gofundme pages so that if you're here, you can scan it and donate immediately. in the meantime, the pazmino and many like them wait for news from their insurance companies to see what of their former life they can rebuild. >> these people have lost everything. it's not just us. it's everybody. >> yeah. incredibly difficult anderson. but all day that we've been here, we have seen utility crews making repairs, firefighters cleaning up as best as they can to make the area safe. and 70% of the damaged homes have now been assessed. so the evacuation zone has actually shrunk a little bit as a couple of hours ago. and so some people have been able to come back. of course, here in the burn zone where the worst damage is, it will be at least a week before people will be able to come back in. and then, of course, 3 to 6 months in terms of cleanup and repair. anderson. >> long road ahead. i appreciate it. thank you so much. more breaking news tonight. the upper part of spacex's giant starship rocket, which was expected to take one lap around earth and splash back down, exploded not long after its seventh test flight. launched from south texas. the falling debris has caused fallout serious problems for commercial aviation. cnn space and defense analyst kristin fisher joins us now with more. so this was an unmanned test flight of a spacex rocket called starship. i just want to show those images again. commercial aircraft is being impacted. i understand according to the faa. what more do we know about this? >> well, the cause is still going to be under investigation and will likely be for some time, anderson. but i mean, just look at that. i mean, that is a massive debris field from the biggest, most powerful thing that humans have ever made that has ever flown in the sky, let alone space. so this is going to be a really big investigation by the faa. you know, i should point out that half of the mission was a huge success. this rocket is two parts. the super heavy booster and then starship on top. the super heavy booster is what returns to earth first and is caught back on the launch pad that it lifted off from by those two big chopsticks. um, spacex successfully did that for the second time. um, starship. the top half is what? typically they haven't had any problem with, so it was definitely a bit of a surprise when about eight minutes into launch. anderson, you started to see some of those engines on starship flaming out. so it likely had something to do with some kind of engine failure. but spacex is now going to have to investigate. and of course, the faa is going to be investigating too. so maybe a while before spacex can fly again. >> elon musk a short time ago posted online some video of the debris raining down and added, quote, success is uncertain. entertainment is guaranteed. um, in terms of setbacks, i mean, i guess they anticipate a certain amount of setbacks. is this, i mean, for the company, much of a setback. he later posted that he doesn't foresee this delaying a scheduled launch next month. >> yes. so the excitement guaranteed. that's something that elon musk likes to say before a lot of these launches. and yeah, i mean, excitement did happen. i'm curious to think what a lot of the folks who have been delayed have their flights delayed at, you know, miami or fort lauderdale. the faa reporting that they've had flights delayed about an hour at those airports. so, you know, i don't know if they think that this is excitement that's been guaranteed. but, you know, this is going to be an investigation by the faa. but look, you know, spacex, this is how they advance their technology. they like to push these boosters and rockets and spaceships to the very point of failure, because that's where they believe they learned the most. that rapid iterative development. some people are going to see this and say, you know, this is a huge failure, but spacex is going to say, look, we made a lot of changes to this rocket. we learned from the previous version. we learned where some of its points of failures are. and so this is going to help us do what we ultimately want to do, which is land humans on the moon and mars. but without a doubt, it's going to take a little bit longer, most likely before they can test this. >> and i assume the debris is coming down in unpopulated areas. i mean, that's what i so well, i mean, it came down initially. >> it started to break up over the caribbean, but i mean, there are this was supposed to splashdown, where it has splashed down in most of the other test flights, anderson, in the indian ocean. so there are reports of debris streaking across the sky in turks and caicos. it remains to be seen if this debris was raining down in areas outside of the hazard zone, that that was initially specified. anderson. so that will be part of the faa investigation. yeah. >> kristin fisher, thanks so much. coming up next, a look at the top leaders of the tech community who've decided to friend the president elect and attend his inauguration. the question is how much money and influence may be in it for them. and just a week after two different judges held rudy giuliani in contempt, the disgraced former mayor reaches a surprise settlement agreement with the two georgia election workers. he defamed. details ahead. >> hey, ryan reynolds here for, i guess, my 100th mint commercial. no no no no no no no no no no i mean, it's unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month. i mean, honestly, when i started this, i thought i'd only have to do like four of these. how are there still people paying 2 or 3 times that much? i'm sorry, i shouldn't be victim blaming here. yeah, i know it's still $15 a month, so whenever you're ready. 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with longtime republican donor miriam adelson and others. zuckerberg did nothing of the sort for president joe biden's inauguration or at trump's 2017 inauguration. amazon founder and washington post owner jeff bezos also has a history of being at odds with trump. yet this was bezos last month. >> if we're talking about trump, i think it's very interesting. i'm i'm actually very optimistic this time around. >> that's from a guy who once suggested he could send trump to outer space on one of his blue origin rockets after he'd been on the receiving end of trump's ire for months. bezos, zuckerberg, apple ceo tim cook and google ceo sundar pichai also courting trump as he begins his second term. cook has reportedly personally donated $1 million to trump's inaugural fund. amazon, meta and google have also ponied up $1 million for the inaugural fund. >> if you look at google lately, i think you're going to see that become much more inclined towards something like trump, because they're starting to get it. >> all this wooing and the cash that goes along with it has earned these tech ceos a seat on the world stage, front and center for trump's inauguration. tiktok's ceo is also expected to attend the inaugural festivities, as trump considers a possible tiktok ban. randi kaye, cnn, west palm beach, florida. >> we saw mark zuckerberg there on joe rogan's podcast last week. another comment he made during the interview was about why masculine energy. his phrase was so important. he said, quote, i think corporate culture was really trying to get away from it. those comments were discussed by my next guest, scott galloway, along with tech journalist kara swisher, on their podcast pivot. here's what swisher said. >> what i don't get, and this is the one part, and this is a personal message for me, is all of you have children. and mark, you have three daughters. you are not a good parent right now to your daughters. what you're doing is reprehensible to your children. you're going to regret what you're doing right now. and the words that are coming out of your mouth for reasons i don't know, get off social media. get off of interviews. everything you say seems stupider and stupider. it's shameful what you're doing. especially, you know, if you had sons. i think it's shameful. but it's particularly shameful when you have three daughters. >> well, perspective now from scott galloway, professor of marketing at nyu stern school of business, also host of the raging moderates podcast. and as i mentioned, co host of pivot with kara swisher. scott kara swisher obviously feels very strongly about mark zuckerberg there. what i mean, when you heard that elon musk well, it must make sense. but jeff bezos, mark zuckerberg, other tech leaders are seated on the dais at the inauguration. did that surprise you at all? given what we've seen over the last couple of weeks i would describe it as shocking, not surprising when the same people who gave zero to the inauguration committee for biden, who so far, as far as i know, given zero to the wildfire relief fund, all give $1 million to the trump inaugural committee and go up there to sort of bend a knee. >> we've gone feels like we've gone full oligarch. it's kind of disappointing because i just don't think these individuals necessarily support his policies. but you could argue most generously they're being good for their fiduciaries, for their shareholders, recognizing that if they complement and support the president and give him and his inaugural committee money, they're going to see a return on that. but that's that's basically an oligarchy. so i think it's shocking, but not but not surprising. >> and you think money is at the root of it for zuckerberg? i mean, i mean, he's got plenty of money, everything, as far as i can tell. >> you always bet on the money thing. it's i mean, a lot of us would do that for a lot less. but what's the point of having all this money if you're not going to stand up for principles? the most generous thing you can say about mark zuckerberg right now is that he's being a pragmatic billionaire and totally focused on shareholder value, as are, to be fair, jeff bezos and tim cook. but at some point, what's the point of having all this money if you can't stand up for traditional american values or quite frankly, just stick up the middle finger to someone who's trying to intimidate you or threatened to put you in prison. >> tiktok is also hosting an event during the inaugural festivities to celebrate influencers who campaigned for trump. i know obviously the app ceo is also expected to attend the inauguration. they're set to be banned in the coming days. by u.s. law, though now there's a scramble from both parties to extend the deadline, possibly stop the ban altogether. what do you read into the ceo being there? is that that's also, i guess, purely transactional? >> jeffrey asks, gave, i think, a $100 million to the gop senate campaign, and all of a sudden he's one of the largest investors and owners of american owners and tiktok. and all of a sudden we're reconsidering a law that was passed by 80 senators. and in a great series succession, logan roy says in a negotiation with his children. you are not serious people. are we a serious country? when the president signs a ban against a foreign adversary, and then on the eve of the ban, we blink? what happens the next time we're negotiating a trade agreement or trying to negotiate them, not invading taiwan? are we a serious people? we're blinking. we're scrambling. they called our bluff. >> i'm wondering what you thought when you heard biden talk of a looming, looming threat from a tech industrial complex? >> i thought it was really appreciated. it reminded me. it reminded me of eisenhower's warning of an emerging military industrial complex where there's too much power and too few hands, and we have a technology sector that is the most powerful, most powerful people, the most powerful companies with almost no regulation. and, you know, as you know, anderson, i think a lot about young men, we have the deepest pocketed, most well-resourced companies in the world, all trying to convince young men they can have a reasonable facsimile of life online with an algorithm. a 14 year old son, tiktok. the average 14 year old is spending 17 hours a week on tiktok. it's terrifying and it is a real threat. and social media, which has no regulation, continues, in my opinion, to increase teen depression, teen anxiety and we're just watching it all happen. when we look back on this era, we'll we'll regret income inequality. we'll regret the concentration of power, the weaponization of our elections. but the things you and i are going to regret, and fortunately, i think this will be figured out because your kids are so young. but the thing my generation will regret is how did we let this happen to our children? >> but the thing i worry about with my kids, who are now four and almost 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