now i'm not sure how enlightening or satisfying the redacted information -- the redacted version will be. it appears that the information that was redacted relates to communications between the commission and the controller's office, which we previously determined were covered by this privilege as part of the investigative file. so i don't think miss herrick was making any additional determinations beyond what she had initially recommended, and that we had earlierly decided on october 22nd. i think she simply is enforcing that view and decision by redacting the portions that were by our prior determination. so that is my understanding of what happened here. >> okay. and that it was privileged as part of the ethics commission investigation or as part of the controller's investigation? >> well, i think we -- mr. givner, correct me if i'm wrong, i think we determined that both are. i think these emails may have been as part of our file, the commission's file. but it relates to both. >> okay. thank you. >> >> commissioner hayon? >> my question is in terms of the opinion that has been rent

, that is when we would suggest redacting. so there is a fair amount of judgment in that. and that goes to commissioner studley's point. >> we are not -- are we prohibited from releasing a document with no substance? >> i think when this document is produced, in my view it would fall on the end of the redactions that i would categorize as so severe as to be virtually encompassing the entire document. because miss herrick conducted this investigation for us, because i didn't find the information that was not redacted to be privileged, i think in this instance, production is appropriate. but i certainly do not fault the commission for not producing a document in this form, which the public can evaluate it once they see it, but i think they will find it to be not particularly useful as a publicly disclosed document. thank you, mr. st. croix. >> is there a motion with respect to whether we should find the failure to release these three documents in redacted form to be a willful violation of the sunshine ordinance? >> i move that w

standards for redaction? what is disclosable? and by what standard one would determine when redacting is appropriate? or unless our -- unless what we're being asked to do is purely provide these documents as redacted, or not at all? >> so my understanding and i will perhaps pass it on to mr. givner to go over the standard. i have printed out for myself the relevant sections. but to recap procedurally what happened, the miss herrick reviewed and determined that the redacted portion was privileged. that was covered by state law and/or local ordinances that protect the disclosure of this information, including c3.699-13a. her proposal i believe is to produce the information as redacted. >> not having that section at my fingertips, or in mind, and i don't -- but it's hard for me to make a judgment on this without knowing what that privilege -- knowing more about the nature of that privilege that would require that certain information be redacted. >> i am going back to her memo as well. this is the longer one. >> thanks. >> following

adams' contacted information was redacted in that response. nothing else. no indication at all that they intended, had considered any possible response to you or any consideration of a possible response to you. you have to realize that redacting that contact information is the city hall equivalent of flipping somebody the bird. it's been established by the sunshine ordinance task force and courts in state that a person can't invoke somebody else's right to privacy by redacting their contact information and once it's waived, it can't be reinvoked again. so they have no grounds to redact that contact information and they know it. this would be the equivalent as if the finding of official misconduct against ross mirkarimi was responded with well we're friends with ross mirkarimi and we don't have to give you an answer and, in fact nobody said that. in this instance it's a badge of honor. they don't have it give you a reason. they haven't given you a reason. it's not official miscould be duct if it's only the sunshine ordinance. and that is the message. thank y

that gives that that bootstraps basically their argument so they where they can't produce it or redacted whereas if a news organization are requesting information they'd be a little less likely to use that excuse but in the end it's all going to have to come down to a judge russia journalism christopher chambers thank you very much for being on the program tonight appreciate it. cribbing office of tasty profits while millions struggle to feed themselves under fire for forcing a crisis to stoking starvation by exploiting the futures market we're talking about online tonight also while you're online as well one of the this japan over leader told to hurry up and die by the new finance minister who says all people cost too much to keep alive r.t. dot com want more. gay rights campaign is in moscow have rallied against the so-called gay propaganda law being considered in russia but their public kissing campaign tactics lead to trouble as cannot has got the story several dozen gay rights activists straight staging a kissing flash mob in moscow right outside the city duma were interrupted by a

they have foiled they did that with occupy cleveland and here you have again a very redacted document but one that is saying that they had information intelligence some identified source that was talking about sniper attacks and assassination against occupy where's the rest of the material and where is that investigation. and i'll be talking to chris hedges later in the show but i wanted to and he's been all over this case he's quoted you and i'm really happy to hear that he's he's taking and running with it i want to read a quote from his book the death of the class that i think really applies to this he says the corporations that profit from permanent war need us to be afraid the imposition of fear ensures that the corporations that wrecked the country cannot be challenged would you say at this point are the corporations in the government are completely working in concert to manufacture fear i think that the government acts to protect the interests of the wealthy the elite the corporations those who are holding economic power in the united states and when you have a movement like oc

of blown out of proportion but that want to assassinate members of occupy that was also heavily redacted in the documents but you know it's not even that part of the story which is upsetting that they didn't warn people what's what i think is interesting that the tables were turned if it was an occupied member planning to assassinate someone externally outside of that movement i just can't help but think that the media would take it and say she lives it and use it to discredit the entire movement but of course they would the media would and the f.b.i. what i mean the f.b.i. and in the context of occupy and all around the united states they've created over the past number of years these terrorism plots that they themselves participate in and then announce that they have foiled they did that with occupy cleveland and here you have again a very redacted document but one that is saying that they had information intelligence some identified source that was talking about sniper attacks and assassination against occupy whereas the rest of the material now where is that investigation. and i'll b

if you find out you're not allowed to reveal that information what exactly got a mention in those redact. it's a paper she held up is there any hope that americans will be able to find out what information has been withheld any time soon. well yes i mean we have to balance the a.c.l.u. is going to continue its lawsuit i would assume other groups electronic frontier foundation too and they're going to soon they're going to challenge and maybe the courts will order the f.b.i. to reveal their policies there's also the chance of leaks that's part of the best ways of achieve maintaining openness in a society when the government doesn't want to be open and you can always hope that people who do know people on the inside will reveal the end ration it goes up on wiki leaks or on other sites like that so we can establish not establish that examine those policies ourselves these f.b.i. memos came about because the u.s. supreme court ruled last year didn't they that a warrant was needed to use g.p.s. to track a suspect vehicle what's known about of a surveillance techniques that are used on america

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according to heavily redacted fbi records obtained by fox news and obtained by judicial watch. the visa transactions showed purchases for mohammed at that on august 13th, 2001 for an american west airlines flight from washington, d.c. to las vegas to miami. according to the joint congressional inquiry to 9/11 this is one of atta's final crucial surveillance flights. the records also list the names of others and they appear to be muscle hijackers. >> just a few months later, al awlaki is brought into the pentagon for a meeting as part of a muslim outreach program. not only do the documents show that he was buying tickets for the hijackers, it shows he was the central focus of the fbi's investigation of 9/11. >> in a statement a short time ago, the fbi cautioned against drawing conclusions about the documents saying there is no direct connection between al awlaki and 9/11. judicial watch is now asking the fbi to release a document in its entirety without redactions. for the sake of full transparency. >> thank you. >> you are welcome. al jazeera has taken a huge step to expand pre

fall of twenty eleven now the names of the groups or individuals involved in the alleged plot are redacted from the f.b.i. documents but what critics say is clear is that the f.b.i. never alerted any one of the potential any of the potential victims that their lives could possibly be in danger or that there's any threat surrounding them the partnership for civil justice fund received the f.b.i. documents on december twenty second so this is fairly new information and this was after they filed a request under the freedom of information after now many civil rights attorneys previously have accused the f.b.i. of functioning as a de facto intelligence arm for u.s. corporations during the occupy wall street movement especially as it grew bigger however some critics say they never ever suspected that the f.b.i. would neglect to tell occupy protesters u.s. citizens about an assassination plot surrounding them. it was a. special . trip to his adopted home. president. citizenship. french activists are deployed here has mass where the russian president vladimir putin and has received his brand new r

get a warrant this is the justice department's response more than one hundred pages of completely redacted material except for the title so to the question how when and why the government can track its citizens the f.b.i. responded with this takes a lot of ink to print out something like this some artistic souls may think of the painting black swear by live each we're certainly not sure of the artistic intentions of the u.s. justice department or the meanings they put into these black pages but for civil liberties advocates here this is what government secrecy looks like actually it was last month when president obama signed a bill that essentially allows the government to spy on anyone they want under some kind of a general warrant as opposed to an individual word in other words it allows the national security agency to vacuum up as much private communication as possible with something like a promise on the authorities part to be really careful about when and how they look at it but civil liberties advocates argue that the bill of rights is not about the government's promises of good inte

previously, another judge had ruled the archdiocese could redact the names but that decision has now been overturned. the church says it will comply, although no date has been set for the documents release. t papers include memos, medical records and correspondence with the vatican. >>> we have a special report today from california about another church controversy, catholic women who feel called to be priests, even though their unauthorized ordinations violate church law and cost them excommunication. saul gonzales reports from los angeles. >> at a los angeles ceremony, a group of catholic women is about to commit an act of religious faith, but because they are women it's an act the vatican has condemned as a grave crime against the roman catholic church and what the church sees as its divine laws. >> bishop olivia and members of the community, i am honored to testify on behalf of jennifer's readiness to be ordained to the priesthood. >> in a faith that prohibits females from becoming priests, these women are rebels, gathering here this afternoon to orin ts won, jennife o'malley, as

i think that is material that is redacted and blocked out. some of them are heavily redacted. generally to disguise the political views being made of them. c-span: can you ever listen to them if you want to? >> guest: they have none. they have no tapes like that. c-span: they are gone? >> guest: they are gone. they don't exist. sometimes there are police recordings. ralph abernathy's famous do hecky speech that he gave in selma was recorded by the sola police and then fell into the law enforcement hands which was actually what they thought at the time, the people in the civil rights movement fought. was the police making of the intrusions face of the fbi as their friends which relatively speaking the fbi agents on the ground. it's a complex period. you have a hostile political part of the fbi and a relatively friendly, crimefighting part of the fbi coexisting at a time when the movement is under constant danger, the various scattered movement throughout the south. c-span: "parting the waters," your first book was published in what your? >> guest: at the end of 1988. c-span: wa

half the documents about this that were recently released by the national security agency were redacted to hide classified details. but there's enough there to show that the government will be probing for vulnurabilities in the system that connects the computer networks of utility companies. the concern - how closely the government will be looking at the digital data in those private networks. the fiscal cliff deal means tax hikes for middle-class americans but tax breaks for corporations. according to the huffington post, there were more than a dozen loopholes in the 11th hour deal that will benefit wall street financial firms such as goldman sachs, as well as several of america's largest corporations including ford motor company and general electric. all told, the breaks mean a bill to taxpayers for billions of dollars. a senior analyst at the u.s. public interest research group says the breaks show lobbyists are able to get what they want. so al gore sells the hardly- watched current tv channel to al jazeera. so is al jazeera going to do any better in finding viewers? at the moment,

ask you what motivated you to get the documents and how did you do it, and weren't they heavily redactedg at one time? >> yeah. we actually got a question from a reader about a year ago and we started the process of trying to get some of these redactions taken away. we appealed many of the redactions through the freedom of information act, and like i said, it took about a year to get these files actually released to us with, i mean, dozens of those black marks removed from them. >> okay. so, you've read through them, why did the feds begin monitoring monroe? >> well, like a lot of celebrities, the fbi of that era was monitoring celebrities for possible ties to communism. marilyn monroe had been married to arthur miller, somebody else that they were monitoring. he was a playwright. they were looking for any ties to communism. they thought that they needed to keep an eye on her, they tracked her movements and travels to a certain extent. >> yeah. you know, there was an anonymous tipster that told a new york paper that money from the marilyn monroe productions was finding its way into the c