redfield. i'm wondering what you make of this pattern. >> well, it's -- first of all, i think it's a disgusting pattern, honestly. these are professionals, who choose their words carefully. and, you know, if you looked at the picture tonight of dr. redfield standing up there and the president standing to his side, looking like the executioner, who could chop off his head at any time and fire him, if he wanted to. and we know the president can do that. and, still, what he did was he got up there and he effectively -- he couched it but he effectively said what he said. and he said "the washington post" was accurate. and i would argue that tony fauci did exactly the same thing. when when he stood up there. and i think perhaps the reason they all still have their jobs because the president would probably like to get rid of anyone who disagrees with him or challenges him or gets him in trouble with the public is that he looks at the polls. and he understands that the scientists are trusted more, by

redfield said he was quoted accurately. and i would point out, anderson, after the story posted he also tweeted and encouraged people to read the story. >> we put up his tweet earlier. lena, i appreciate your reporting. sanjay, i want to turn to georgia. the president said he disagrees with the governor's decision to open businesses friday, nail salons, massage therapy spas and the like. dr. fauci said he would urge the governor to be careful. as a resident of georgia, as a physician, are there any signs that the government is listening? it doesn't seem like it. >> no, and, in fact, over the last few minutes, you know, governor kemp has now responded to what president trump said. and president trump said he strongly disagrees with governor kemp's decision to reopen things in georgia. as you mentioned, dr. fauci said he would advise him against it. yesterday ambassador birx said there are outbreaks going on. this doesn't meet the guidelines, the gating criteria. what we just heard, anderson, that's not going to change a thin

the president said redfield was misquoted. redfield then asked by our jon karl, were you misquoted? he said no. >>> as we come on tonight, the house getting ready to vote on that new $484 billion relief bill. now more than 26 million americans out of work since this began. and there's word tonight from senator elizabeth warren, revealing she has lost her older brother to the virus, a vietnam veteran. her moving words. >>> the new warning tonight. what some doctors are seeing in younger adults. strokes in patients who had shown mild or no symptoms what they now say to look for. >>> a deadly tornado outbreak amid this pandemic. at least 27 twisters, and the watches as we come on the air tonight. >>> we promised to stay on this story. farmers forced to throw out produce and dump milk because it couldn't be delivered. what's now happened tonight. >>> and at the end this evening, the story of the veteran and father many of you saw last night right here and what you've done. it's extraordinary. >>> good evening and it's great to have you with us here on this thursday night. the president

robert redfield. he said the outbreak will be more difficult than what the united states is going through now in the fall. and that he couldn't get people to understand that in meetings. only director robert redfield did not walk back his comments. when he was asked directly, were you quoted accurately in t"the washington post," he said yes, it is going to be more difficult in the winter. it comes on the same day the top doctor involved in finding a vaccine said he was pushed out of his job because he called for more vetting of the unproven drugs the president was touting as a treatment, specifically high driving while intoxicated color clean. the president talked about that doctor, the most senior administration official in charge of a vaccine. the president comment, he's never heard of him. can that be true? and if it is true, what does that say? joining me now dana bash, dr. sanjay gupta, daniel dale also with me. daniel, let me get to you. it was a stunning moment when the president was asked dire

(as redfield) "yes... 'others' got very confused.others' stopped listening to me, turned on some cartoons and i had to say, "this is important, president others." others wasn't happy about redfield saying this to the "washington post." so he summoned dr. redfield to his daily press briefing, and said there's a simple explanation. >> dr. robert redfield was totally misquoted in the media on his statement about the fall season and the virus. totally misquoted. i spoke to him and he said it was ridiculous. he was misquoted, totally misquoted. >> stephen: okay, i guess he was totally misquoted in the "washington post." >> i am accurately quoted in the 's what heaid.st." redfield then tried to explain that he had been right all along-- but so had trump. >> i think it is really important to emphasize what i didn't say. i didn't say that this was going to be "worse." i said it was going to be complica-- or more difficult. doesn't mean it'll be more impossible. doesn't mean it's going to be more, as some people have said, "worse," it just me

redfield.o you believe that the numbers have come down that significantly to 60,000 from where you and i spoke back in february? >> you know, sanjay, that's what the tribute to the american public is. i've said this before. as you know, we have one of the most powerful weapons against this virus. we're not defenseless. and that weapon was the social distance and is the social distancing. this virus has a very significant weakness. it can't swim seven feet. if we can just maximize that social distancing, we can limit this virus' ability. many people didn't predict and the modelers for sure didn't predict for sure that the majority of american people would embrace that social distancing. and what i've said, when all of us try to do behavior modification, whether it's what we eat, exercise, you know, whether cigarette smoking, whatever it is for our own health, we're not very good at that. but i can tell you, i've been really unbelievably amazed and gratified by the commitment of the american peop

robert redfield warned that coronavirus could come back this fall even worse than now. in an interview with "the washington post," he is quoted as saying there's a possibility the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through. white house officials insist redfield was talking about the potential for a coronavirus resurgence at the same time seasonal flu kicks in and the burden that double whammy could put on the health care system. in a new development, the former deputy hhs secretary for preparation and response is filing a whistle-blower complaint tonight claiming he was transferred to a lesser position at the nih after disagreeing with the white house over which drugs and treatment to spend billions of dollars on. in the whistle-blower complaint, he says he insisted the money go to safe and scientifically bedded solutions and not into drugs, vaccines, and other technologies that lacks scientific merit. >> bret: he's asking for the department of health and human services to open up the investigati

redfield misquoted he says, white house says very clearly. want to share this quote with the audience and i want to get your reaction to what he was saying. if we could see the redfield quote, in which he said there is a possibility the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we went through. i want your reaction to that, and redfield's explanation, that he was talking about the confluence of flu and the virus, the coronavirus? >> well let's start of course with the kayleigh mcenany statement i completely agree with, he was just trying to shed light on virus, the flu, we're not getting our flu shots but more than that i happened to speak to dr. redfield about this coincidentally. let me show you how fake news works, lou. here is what he actually said to me. he said to me, you know i think this is a seasonal virus. i agree with dr. fauci on that. i said, what do you mean by that? i think that means if we keep following the public health restrictions we may get out of the woods soon. we m

redfield and dr. birx. what do you think for the fall? is it going to be embers or no return of the virus? >as i've said before, when you look at an outbreak, its two dynamic forces opposing each other. if you leave the virus to its own devices, it will take off and you can do nothing to stop it. if you put into place the kinds of things that we talk about, first containment and then hopefully you never get to have mitigation but containment is important. those forces are going to determine whether you're going to have a big outbreak. what dr. redfield was saying, first of all, is that we will have coronavirus in the fall. i am convinced of that. because of the degree of transmissibility that it has come of the global nature. what happens with that will depend on how we are able to contain it when it occurs. what we are saying is that in the fall, we will be

redfield: thank you, mr. president. i really do think it is important to clarify this as we build the confidence of the american people. when i commented yesterday that there was a possibility of the and-winter -- next fall winter could be more difficult, more complicated and we had two respiratory illnesses circulating, flu and the coronavirus 19. but i think it is really important to emphasize what i did not say. i didn't say this was going to be worse. i said it was going to be more complicated or more difficult and potentially complicated because we will have flu and coronavirus circulating at the same time. i want to emphasize that we build the nation's public health infrastructure to ensure that we have the capacity to stay in the containment mode. those of you who heard me talk before, i have told you that in january and february, up to february 27, february 28, we had 14 cases. we were in the containment mode, and then unfortunately the virus overwhelmed when we got into extreme mitigation. we are building that

the president then said redfield had been misquoted but redfield said he had been correctly quoted. president trump: dr. redfield was misquoted about t fall season and the virus, total ily misquoted. >> you were accurately quoted. >> i was quoted. robert: another flair up when a senior government scientist said he was rem hed from post from resisting efforts to promote hydroxychloroquine that has been used by some doctors t treat the virus. the presidentncouraged by conservati commentators. the f.d.a. warned tha they should not take the drug to take covid-19 outside of a hospital due to reports of heart issues. but it was thursday's news conference. the president expressed hope about e power of sunlight to defeat the and turned to a science administratorxp tore the idea and what he called disinfectants. president trump: i would like you to speak to theic m doctors to see if you can apply light and heat to cure. again, maybe it can, maybe itn' i'm not a doctor. have you ever heard of thatea and the light relative to certain viruses but relative to that. >> that is a treatment. certai

redfield.nk physicians are always worried about a second wave, and certainly we knew that if this virus acts like other viruses, we could see a resurgence in the fall. i have to tell you, i'm also worried about a second wave to come sooner. i'm really worried about those states who are relaxing some of the stay at home regulations earlier. we could get a second wave even earlier than the fall. that's very concerning. >> and you're talking about georgia where you live, that's also where dr. sanjay gupta lives. i want to get to that in a moment, sanjay. the concern is what happens when the coronavirus, according to dr. redfield, coincides with the outbreak of flu season here in the united states. how do we use these next few months to prepare, god forbid, for that possibility? >> in some ways it's the same things that we've been talking about for the last few months, wolf. we've talked about making sure hospitals are adequately prepared in terms of beds and surge capacity and possibly breathing m

the same thing with redfield. redfield said something about the combination of flu and coronavirus in the fall. the headline said devastating. that looked bad to trump, well, you're saying we haven't gotten on top of this situation. so he says, redfield was misquoted. he hauls him into the briefing room. he actually wasn't, as you pointed out, wasn't misquoted, but he then clarifies, well, it was the headline really i had a problem with, not the quote itself. the same thing with the opening of the states. it sounds good to say we're reopening america, let's get these states going, liberate minnesota, liberate virginia, and brian kemp takes some initial steps there, and i should say that he also responds to the pressure from the science. there was a huge backlash about what kemp was doing, so the president comes out tonight and says, well, actually i don't approve of that. he tried to play it both ways. he said kemp should do what he thinks is right. but he's wavering back and forth under the immense, immense press

so i will ask doctor redfield who is a real professional to come up and explain, please.ve it is important to clarify this as we build the confidence of the american people. when i commented yesterday that there was a possibility of a fall winter, next fall and winter could be more difficult, more complicated than we had two respiratory illnesses circulating at the same time. influencing the coronavirus 19. but what i think it's really important to emphasise is what i did not say. i did not say this was going to be worse. i said it was going to be worse. i said it was going to be more complicated, more difficult because would have the flu and coronavirus circulating at the same time. i want to emphasise that we continue to build the nations public health infrastructure to ensure that we have the capacity to stay in the containment mode. those who offered me talk before, that in january and february, from we had 14 cases. we are in the containment mode and then unfortunately, the virus overwhelmed we regard to extreme mitigation. we are building that public— health capacit

redfield and dr. birx. what do you see for the fall, will it be possibly no return of the virus at all? >> as i said before here, when you look at an outbreak, it's two dynamic forces opposing each other. if you least virus to its own devices, it will take off if you do nothing to stop it. if you put into place the kind of things that we talk about, first containment, then hopefully you never get to mitigation, but containment is important, those two forces are going to determine whether you're going to have a big outbreak. so what dr. redfield was saying, first of all, is that we will have coronavirus in the fall. i am convinced of that, because of the degree of transmissibility that it has, the global nature. what happens with that will depend on how we're able to contain it when it occurs. and what we're saying is

redfield said, we would be able to stay in containment phase.hat we're also hoping and we talked about this about four or five weeks ago, that we're hoping that the flu infections also go down because people are much more aware of respiratory illnesses and how to protect themselves. want you to get your vaccine but we also want to also protect individuals from getting the flu because of the vulnerability we know in certain populations to flu and the devastating out comes to flu. we could prevent and decrease both of those things. so i think we are assured that the cdc is putting in place today what we are going to need in the fall so that we can stay in containment if potentially the virus comes back. >> and if it comes back though, it won't be coming back in the form that it was. it will be coming back in smaller doses that we can contain. but what the doctor was saying, and i spoke to him at great length, he was saying if it should come back together, now you have a flu and the embers of corona, but in my opinion, from everything i have seen,

and so doctor redfield was brought out to clarify that statement.ually when pushed doctor redfield said that he was quoted accurately in the article. and that yes, this was going to be more difficult and more complicated if the coronavirus comes back at the same time as the winter flu virus season. so, to some extent you got it argument here about semantics, the president very unhappy with the headline which said that this could be more devastating, the second wave could be more devastating. that it was going to be worse and that you had doctor redfield say i didn't say it was gonna be worse i said it was can be more difficult and complicated. i'm not sure how it more difficult and more complicated could be easier. some semantics here but the big picture i think stepping back from this is that the president wants to put the most positive spin possible on this. he then brought up doctors from the task force team to try and play down the notion that the coronavirus could even come back. he said even a couple times if it comes back its going to be the

redfield objecting to the headline. cdc director warns second wave of coronavirus is like throw be even more devastating, the quotes in that story from redfield is a possibility that the assault of the rye jus virue nation next winter will be more difficult, we're going to have the flu epidemic and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time. the president's first instinct was to accuse the press of misquoting robert redfield and then he said that's not try, i was quoted accurately. >> they took issue with the headline associated with the piece. trump said the piece is okay but the headline is inaccurate. that is true. that's something redfield explained at length. he wasn't saying the second wave would be deadlier than the first. he was saying when you combine the second wave of the coronavirus with a bad flu season, could you have a more difficult season. he explained again at length. what i thought was frustrating about the media response, they said see, he was quoted accurately. you can be quoted accurately and still

we don't know but the whole reason redfield said that there could be issues come this fall is that we might still be dealing with. this second wave of coronavirus in the midst of a normal flu season. >>the comment that i made it more difficult it doesn't mean is for be more impossible. it doesn't mean it's going to be more as some people said the worse it just means more difficult because we have to distinguish between the 2. >>doctor redfield says the best way to prevent that scenario come fall is to get the flu vaccine and take the flew out of the picture as best you can. here in california more than 37,000 cases of coronavirus are confirmed in the state. >>with more than 1400 deaths. and while there's no specific date for when california will begin easing stay at home restrictions governor newsome says expanding the ability to test and trace those infected with covid-19 is one. the key pieces needed before california reopens the state is set to receive more than 350,000 much needed testing swabs from the federal government. 100,000 of them set to arrive by the end of this week. sta

redfield is concerned. i had went on to say, part of that concern on his end is because he sees a second wave in the winter coinciding with the regular flu season. he went on to talk about concerns over hospitals, supplies. a lot of the things we have been reporting on now for weeks, actually months at this point, issues that states have been dealing with. they are issues that are coming up again, we are seeing states reopen. states that we should point out have not met the simple guidelines. a lot of focus on georgia, tennessee and south carolina. georgia, of course, the governor there saying certain businesses can reopen on tried. they will be subject to certain rules, maintain social distancing, take the temperature of employees. but it's difficult to maintain a six-foot distance, if you're getting your hair done, nails done, getting a massage. those are some of the businesses, and in south carolina, the governor there opening retail stores, furniture stores and beacheses and local communities have pushe

director redfield, dr. redfield, did put out a statement yesterday at the hearing with the -- at the briefing with the president standing at his side, saying, "i was quoted accurately by the "washington post."" there you have it. >> he retweeted it. >> jonathan lemire -- he retweeted it, right. extraordinary, jonathan lemire, the clip we played, showing the journey of the president trying to coax in public, in front of television cameras, his own doctors into coming to his gut feeling or his wishful thinking, let's put it that way, that this will not come back in the fall. doctor after doctor after doctor, three of them on that stage yesterday in the white house briefing room said, "no, no." dr. birx said, "we don't know." dr. redfield said, "i was quoted accura accurately, saying the winter is going to be bad." dr. fauci came out and said, "no, mr. president. no, american public. this will be back in the fall, and it is critical we prepare now." >> exactly right. every medical expert on that stage yesterda

redfield. had he not tried to accommodate trump -- he would have been forced to go back to his job as an amish stock photo model. this is what happens if you don't play loose with the facts we learned yesterday that team trump demoted the doctor in charge of finding a vaccine for the virus. dr. rick bright was "involuntarily transferred" from his post, because he raised orange flags about the presidents' claim that an untested drug hydroxychloroquine could help treat the virus. early testing seems to indicate that it does not. dr. bright spoke up about this, and now he is gone. i'm not sure what's more depressing, that our president demoted a doctor who was trying to prevent americans from trying an ineffective drug that could kill us, or that we're not even remotely surprised this happened. but the president only wants the best people. this headline does a good job of summing it all up. "former labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead u.s. pandemic task force." that's for real. they hired a guy

redfield said. we covered it yesterday. testing is a part of the exquisite monitoring that needs to occur in partnership with cdc and state and local governments utilizing the surveillance systems that are available, what we just talked about, the flu surveillance system because we no longer have flu and the syndrome i can respiratory system. you can see it's going back to baseline. we'll be able to see on the community level any deviation from that baseline. in addition, what we talked about yesterday was adding that asymptomatic component because i think you'll see as more and more articles come out for surveillance at other -- and monitoring that other states have done, higher and higher antibody in multiple individuals who don't remember having a sickness. that will give us an idea. that's our asymptomatic monitoring in these sentinel monitoring sites. what did we talk about yesterday? we talked about nursing homes, indigenous people and vulnerable people in the inner city. really ensuring that something that is so smal

redfield doesn't think it's going away either necessarily. it's that in the fall you got coronavirus, at whatever level it is along with flu. that's the issue. >> all right, thank you so much. coming up there's one shocking statistic we can't predict who might die from coronavirus. we'll be discussing with an er doctor next. plus new details about the first known coronavirus death in the u.s. she was in her 50s. she was healthy and exercised regularly. we'll look at that story ahead. i'm jo ann jenkins with aarp. in these challenging times, we need each other more than ever. we may be apart, but we're not alone. use aarp community connections to find or create a mutual aid group near you. stay connected and help those in need. i know that or create every time that i suit up,you. there is a chance that that's the last time. 300 miles an hour, thats where i feel normal. i might be crazy but i'm not stupid. having an annuity tells me that i'm protected. during turbulent times, consider protected lifetime income from an annuity as part of your re

trump said redfield had been misquoted. >> i didn't say that this was going to be worse.aid it was going to be more compli-- or more difficult, and potentially complicated because we'll have flu and coronavirus circulating at the same time. >> reporter: but epidemiologists agree that a second wave is possible, and that it could overwhelm the health care system. >> if we have an overlap of covid patients, a rise in covid patients at the same time we have a rise in flu season, that could be difficult for hospitals to manage. >> reporter: tonight, dr. redfield confirmed that quote he gave to the "washington post" was accurate. meanwhile, dr. bright is calling for an inspector general investigation into whether this administration is politicizing scientific research. norah. >> o'donnell: paula, thank you for that reporting. and now to california. tonight, it is the first state to recommend expanding covid-19 testing for asymptomatic people in high-risk places, like prisons and nursing homes. and there are new questions tonight about the coronavirus timeline: when did the firs

redfield is saying that it could be more difficult, which is what the quote said.ryone is saying, they're quoting the quote. this is what i'm talking about. watch this. >> it may not come back at all. he is he talking a worst-case scenario. and if it does come back, it's not going to come back and i have a spoken to ten different people, not going to be like it was. also, we have much better containment now. before nobody knew about it. nobody knew anything about it. we understand it now. if we have pockets, a little pocket here, we're going to have it put out. it's going to go out fast. we're going to be watching for it but it's all possible. it's also possible it doesn't come back at all. >> okay. so, doctor, let's just be clear. the scientists are saying we will have it. dr. fauci is saying we will have it. the president is saying we might not. so how can he say that? >> they can both say it, don, because neither one of them is actually putting a probability on their statements. the doctors are talking about what's probable. they think that it's more than likely

robert redfield said he was accurately quoted.

robert redfield wasn't being told this either. so there was a real lack of transparency on some of the core issues here, jake. >> the chinese government keeping this information from the cdc and from their own people. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much, appreciate it. be sure to listen to sanjay's podcast on apple podcasts or wherever you access podcasts. >>> polls show a majority of americans support a slow, responsible return to work. so what is driving this small but very visible and very vocal minority to these protests around the country? >>> then a source telling cnn how a mistake in one lab slowed the u.s. response to the coronavirus by weeks with serious repercussions, that's ahead. ♪ limu emu & doug [ siren ] give me your hand! i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ hey! that's mine. i'll buy you a pony. advanced hydration isn't just for kids. pedialyte helps you hydrate d

redfield is answering some questions now. let's listen in. >> when i've said this to others they don't understand what i mean. we're going to have the flu epidemic and the controversy epidemic at the same time. is that what you said to "the washington post"? >> yeah, that's what i was trying to say to you just a minute ago that the issue i was talking about about being more difficult is that we're going to have two viruses circulating at the same time. this spring we had the benefit of having the flu season ended so we could use all our flu surveillance systems to say, whoops, this is coronavirus, we need to focus. next fall and winter we're going to have two viruses circulating and we're going have to distinguish between which is flu and which is coronavirus. the comment i made is more difficult. doesn't mean it's going to be more impossible. doesn't mean it's going to be more as some people have said worse, it just means it's going to be more difficult because we have to distinguish between the two. and what i want to do ag

redfield had discussed that. we have obviously turned a corner in louisiana. we are in a much better place of what we thought was possible. that is because of our local partners and our federal partners. we have had a lot of lessons to learn. there is no blueprint for this. no blueprint for how to respond to a pandemic. we have had a steep learning curve, but we are in a much better place. the fields medical stations you provided, the navy medical , personnel that you sent to louisiana, the testing that we had early was key and that has informed our testing strategy going forward and we are excited about the opportunity to have the test kits we need allocated in the month of may to get to 200,000.

dr redfield to come up say a couple of words just to straighten that out because he didn't say it was a big a big explosion in the headline in the washington post was totally inaccurate the statement wasn't bad in the post but the headline was ridiculous which is as i say that's fake news and c.n.n. is fake is like crazy and they had just totally the rocks are which they knew they were asked to change it and they wouldn't do that. and it was for also a list actor redfield who is you know a real professional to come up and explain please. thank you mr president and i really do think it's important to clarify this as we build the confidence of the american people when i commented yesterday that there was a possibility of the fall winter. next fall winter could be more difficult difficult more complicated and we had 2 respiratory illnesses circulate at the same time influenza and the corona virus 19 but i think it's really important to emphasize what i didn't say i didn't say that this was going to be worse i said it was going to be more complicate our more difficult and potentially comp

redfield was saying, it's going to be complicated. whether or not it's going to be big or small is going to depend on our response. and that's what i think people sometimes have misunderstanding. nobody can predict what is going to happen with an outbreak. but you can predict how you're going to respond to it, and that's really very important. >> reporter: you would caution against people thinking that in the fall there's not going to be coronavirus anymore and we won't have to worry about it? >> no. >> reporter: or if it is, it will be spotty and won't be a big problem that we'll worry about. >> there will be coronavirus in the fall. if we do -- which we won't, but let's take an imaginary reaction, we say, we'll do nothing, we won't worry about it. it would take off. but we'll respond to it to not allow it to do that. >> reporter: dr. fauci, what happens when -- >> human nature, desire. but going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be, i would advise him as a health official and as a physician not to do that. >> r

redfield said. and we covered yesterday. testing is a part of the exquisite monitoring that needs to occur in partnership with cdc and state and local governments utilizing the surveillance systems that are available. what we talked about, the flu surveillance system, because we know longer have flu, and the syndromic respiratory system. that's across the united states. you can see it's going back to baseline so that we will be able to see at the community level any dedication from the baseline. in addition, we talked about yesterday was adding that asymptomatic component because i think you'll see as more and more articles come out for surveillance and monitoring that other states have done, higher and higher antibody in multiple individuals who don't remember having a sickness. that will give us an idea, our asymptomatic monitoring in the sentinel monitoring sites. what did we talked about yesterday? we talked about nursing homes, indigenous people, and we talked about vulnerable people in the inner-city. really ensuring t

redfield's concern is that there also might be flu at the same time. that's why we have built into the plan surveillance mechanisms to look for the respiratory illnesses and do the appropriate testing at that time. that's going to be a critical part of the reopening plan. >> harris: you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. emily compagno, attorney at fox news contributor. jessica tarlov, fox news contributor. joining us today, dr. marc siegel, professor of medicine at nyu langone medical center and fox news contributor. dr. siegel is "outnumbered," as we say come in the center box. good to see if ready today. see to mike doc, will come to first. let's talk about the second wave that will be coming, and what cdc director redfield is saying, and others. what is your take on it? >> dr. siegel: actually, harris, a spoke to dr. redfield about this last week. the exact thing. i have a different take. here's what i think -- i think he expects, and he told me this, do have extensive testing in place by the fall. i'm talk

redfield and dr. gupta said is exactly right, test it, figure out if it works, it does have real side effects. if it works, great, let's use it. if it doesn't work and it is harmful, stop using it. we don't want to make the situation worse and we have to let science drive this decision. >> okay, dr. jha, sanjay gupta, dr. gupta, thank you both very much for all of the information. great to talk to you. >>> we will be right back. because we have guests who are going to tell us about how hard they are struggling with the economy having to file for unemployment. we'll be right back. more than ever, your home is your sanctuary. that's why lincoln offers you the ability to purchase a new vehicle remotely with participating dealers. an effortless transaction-all without leaving the comfort- and safety-of your home. thats the power of sanctuary. and for a little extra help, receive 0% apr financing and defer your first payment up to 120 days on the purchase of a new lincoln. and defer your first payment up t

although mr redfield did take issue with the headline. trump then stepped up to say that this projection of a possible concurrence if you like, of the coronavirus and the winter flu season was the worst—case scenario and said that the coronavirus might not come back. although medical experts remain convinced that it probably will. as far as the cdc director, robert redfield, is concerned and his approach to that article in the washington post, he can't have been too displeased with it at the time, mike, because he retweeted the very same article. many people will have in mind, i think, this rather scary statistic that apparently the 1918 global flu pandemic, killed 25 times as many people in the second wave as the first wave had done. obviously the president has no medical or scientific background. not for the first time, the science here is politically inconvenient? yes, it is. and of course he's somebody who wants to stress that this is an economy that needs to be reopened because the threat of the coronavirus is receding. and president

redfield, who is a real professional, to come up and explain. redfield: thank you.o think it is important to clarify this as we build the confidence of the american people. when i commented yesterday thatthere was-- shery: you are listening to president trump get his daily press conference on the coronavirus outbreak. saying a number of new virus cases in the u.s., the number of new cases will keep declining. of course a pandemic has really led to the this traction of oil demand and oil sinking to a 20 year low. brent has recovered, bucking two days of frantic selling. but a global supply glut continues to loom over the market. let's get a look at what these moves mean in the long-term. managing director jeanette garrretty. great to have you with us. we continue to see the price of oil under less pressure than before, but still at historic lows. what does this mean for companies and earnings going forward? because in a way it could also bruce -- boost profit margins for those oil users. jeanette: it absolutely can. so many vital input in ways to the economy. everyth

president trump said mr redfield was totally ‘misquoted'.hat we just went through, we had the benefit of having the flu season ending. so we could use all of our flu surveillance systems to say that this is the coronavirus and that we need to focus. the next fall and winter we could have two viruses circulating and will have to distinguish which is the flu and which is the coronavirus. so the comment that i made is it's more difficult, does not meet its way to be more impossible, it does not mean that it's going to be, as some people have said, worse, it'sjust going to be more difficult to distinguish between the two and wanting to do it again here is to appeal to the american public to recognize they can really help like they did with mitigation, which they really helped, i need them to help not best prepare us by getting the flu vaccine in taking the flu out of the picture. let's speak to our north america correspondent david willis. the president was livid about the fake news is he put it. the listening to what doctor redfield said, it di