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redfield: thank you very much. i think it is really important for us to be honest and transparent about the fact that for decades we have failed to invest in public health. complexityn the that has caused us as we confronted the covid outbreak. i would argue now is the time to make that investment to hit our nation on a sustained pass to have the public health system that this nation not only needs, but this nation deserves. there are several elements to that. one is data modernization. this is fundamentally critical. we need resilience in the laboratory. some of the complexities we have seen in expanding testing, public health infrastructure has a laboratory-based system based on a single ply farm. it needs to be much more resilient. we need a public health workforce. we recently told the nation in somery there were 6000 -- states have less than 100. i predict this country will need at least 100,000 to deal with the current covid outbreak this fall. 28,000currently around and growing. this is really fundamental. i

redfield. dr. redfield: good morning, chairman blunt. ranking member murray, members of the subcommittee. i'm pleased to be here with my h.h.s. colleagues. together we're working on the , critical issues related to covid-19 vaccine development, manufacturing distribution under the auspices of operation warp speed. vaccines are one of public health's greatest scientific achievements. with the support of congress, investments in c.d.c.'s domestic and global immunization programs continue to diminish disease threats and advance the human condition. most importantly, vaccines save lives. preparing for the implementation of the safe and effective covid-19 vaccine program is a critical next step. through our existing influenza vaccine program, c.d.c. continues to work with state, tribal, local territorial health partners to prepare and maintain public health distribution pipeline. this includes training personnel, building strategic relationships, utilizing data systems, identifying the resources to

my first guest this afternoon is robert redfield, cdc director. thank you so much for joining us again. i enjoyed our last conversation and i've been telling people today several times in that last conversation, i could feel you simmering when we talked before about the lack of investment over decades in our public health infrastructure and why that is so consequential today. will you share with our audience what you have in mind? >> thank you very much. i think it's really important for us to just be honest and transparent about the fact that decades,y [indiscernible] . and i think we've seen the complexity that has caused us as we confronted the covid outbreak. i would argue now it's the time to make that investment, begin our nation on a sustained path to have the public health solution that this nation not only needs, but this nation deserves. with several elements of that. the ability to do predictive data analysis. this is fundamentally critical to have real-time, actionable effectiveto have an bubble. the recipients in the laboratory of som

redfield. opening up schools is the right thing to do for our kids so they don't fall behind academically, and so children who are in need of services, special needs children, children with mental health issues, nutrition needs, have the support that they receive at the schools. it is important though for parents and working families. i asked secretary scalia to be here from the department of labor to speak about the impact, as we put america back to work, making it possible for us to have sigel parents back in the workforce. it is essential we get our schools open as well. i wanted secretary scalia and the secretary of hhs to finish our marks before we go to questions. mr. secretary? secretary scalia: thank you. mr. vice president, it is good to be with you all today. for reasons that secretary devos has mentioned, the vice president mentioned, having our schools open, is so important to education.n's as the vice president has said, it is very important as well to working men and women across

redfield and brett giroir all for combatting covid-19. all three speakers are in the room so we expect it to start shortly here on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> we're live from the rayburn health office building on capitol hill waiting for remarks from doctors anthony fauci, dr. redfield, and admiral brett giroir. they'll been talking about combatting covid-19 on c-span2. it should start momentarily. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> good morning. let me welcome everybody. today our select subcommittee is holding a hiybrid hearing some are remotely and some from web x. since some are appearing in person, pursuant to the latest guidelines by the house attending physicians, all in

redfield. opening up schools is the right thing to do for our kids so they don't fall behind academically and also so that children that are in need of services, special needs children, children with mental health issues, nutrition needs, have the support that they receive at the schools. it is important, though, for parents and for working families. i asked secretary scalia to be here from the department of labor to speak on the impact, as we put america back to work, to make it possible for us to put single parents back in the workforce. it's essential to get our schools open, as well. secretary scalia, and then of course the secretary of hhs to make remarks before we go to questions. mr. secretary? mr. vice president, it's good to be with you all today. for reasons that that were mentioned, having our schools open it so important to our children's education. as the vice president has said, it is very important, as well, to working men and women across the country who need to be able to struc

but we are on the same page with doctor redfield who has said i don't want this guide is to be reason for schools not to be reopened and he said these were not meant to be prescriptions but they are guidelines and it's currently up to state and local governments. there are 47 states have issued their own guidelines so far and i would also note the cdc recognizes in their guidelines that many of these things that they are recommending are not feasible which is why they used their not possible 18 times and not feasible nine times. we want our schools to reopen and it is imperative for the health and well-being of the child. >> you asked the president whether he was up for the idea of staggered schools reopening schedule. to do have a chance to talk -- >> i never talked with him today because of the supreme court ruling we did not get to that yet but it is on my list two things to follow up with him about. >> two different things, one was changing the guidelines in the guidance that was newly released and doctor redfield which is

redfield. can you explain why the president is threatening to cut funding from schools at a time when educators are saying they need more so they can safely reopen? >> kaitlan, first and foremost, what you heard from the president is determination to provide the kind of leadership at the federal level that says we're going to get our kids back to school because that's where they belong and we know based upon what our best health officials tell us that we can do that in a safe and responsible way. but to be clear, the current c.a.r.e.s. act provided $13.3 billion to support education efforts in states in the midst of the pandemic. we're going to work with congress. we expect there will be additional support there. but the president is just very serious, for all the reasons we discussed today. he believes and we believe it's absolutely essential for our children's academic development and for their social and emotional and health and nutrition needs to be back in the classroom and we're going to

redfield, but then dr.fauci, i want to ask you about the concern that we have with certain parts of the country where you have public mistrust of vaccines in general. my fear is that we may get to the place where -- we will get to the place with we have that successful vaccine. but we still have the concern from many and a mistrust and whether it is vaccine hesitation or confidence, i don't know what the buzzword is, but i'm worried we don't have a plan to deal with that. so first contact tracing and then the vaccine. >> thank you very much, senator. i think it is important to highlight what you said about the current state of data systems for public health in the united states. that they really are in need of aggressive modernization and, again, thank congress for the funding there. but it is a substantial investment that needs to take place. there are a number of counties still doing this pen and pencil as you commented. and we need to have a comprehensive integrated public health data system that is not

redfield. >> dr.edfield, the cdc was wash ed warned that more needed to be done from almost the start. dr. jeffrey engle, epidemiologist, told cnn on many conference calls in january the cdc was being told that testing needed to be expanded and the virus was probably already circulating in early january. that seems like a significant issue. why wasn't the cdc listening to these warnings and doing more at that time? >> well, you know, sanjay, i think it's important. we looked from a variety of different evidence lines to see if, in fact, that was true. you know, we had the first case reported in january, i think 22. and we've gone back and looked both in the flu surveillance studies in seattle. we looked at antibody testing in the region back ten. we learned at the evolution of the virus, claims data with cms, and we published this in our mmwr. there was not evidence of significant circulation of the virus prior to the mid to end of february. after that, we had substantial seeding of the virus, particu

redfield. and thanks to all of you for your testimonies, and as i said earlier, you submitted to us testimony, and they are entered into the record. i recognize myself for five minutes for questions. >> on january 3 1st, 2020, exactly six months ago today, the secretary of health and human services declared the coronavirus outbreak, and i quote, a public health emergency for the entire united states. but rather than immediately bringing our nation together, to tackle the problem, the trump administration down played the crisis, ignored scientific experts and deferred tos and the private sector to lead the response. dr. fauci on march 11th of this year, you testified before the oversight committee saying, and i quote, it's going to get worse. i regret to say you were right. it did get worse. on march 11th, the country had confirmed just over 1200 cases and 31 deaths. today we have confirmed more than 4.4 million cases, and we have just reached 150,000 deaths. there's a chart that i have up here.

redfield. >> good morning, chairman, ranking member scalise and thank you for being here on behalf of my colleagues. i want to extend our sympathies to the loss of john lewis. our members will remember him for his courage, conviction, patriotism and commitment to equity for all. c.d.c. remembers him as a fierce advocate for public health. working together we're to honor his life long commission of social distance, mitigating the racism on public health in our nation. the three of us, united to stop the spread of covid-19 to protect all americans while dedicating greater attention to overcoming the health disparities experience by populations at increased risk for this disease. we are seven months into this global pandemic and it is with great humility that i share with you, this is the most complex public health response this nation has undertaken in more than a century. this virus is indiscriminate regarding whom and when it strikes. continue to learn through arc race particulars, it's behavio

redfield? >> i think it was an important decision in light of the -- >> did you agree with the decision? >> yes, i said it is an important -- >> thank you. did you discuss this change with vice president pence or with secretary azar? >> not directly. >> indirectly? >> i talked directly with the individuals responsible in the secretary's office. >> did you discuss it with vice president pence? >> no. >> did you discuss it with secretary azar? >> no. >> who told you about the reasons for this change? >> well, i think we collectively understand the reasons if i can answer there was substantial advancements in therapeutic with remdesivir which made it really important to understand who was newly hospitalized in real time that day so allocations of remdesivir could get to the hospital. >> i thank you very much for that. and so you developed the reasons, no one dictated the reasons or told you the reasons for the change, you came up with the reasons? >> congresswoman, yes, i think it is important we

redfield. we see dr. birx. there's a whole array of doctors, medical experts, best in the world that are helping work with president trump to develop this plan, is that correct, if i ask any of you all. is that correct? by the way, were any of you sidelineded from coming here? know some people try to use that term. i haven't heard of anybody sidelined. >> no. >> if any of you were sidelined, please share, it because i haven't see that. good to see all of here. dr. fauci, let me ask you about some of the decisions that you worked with president trump on and the whole team did. i know when you go back to the beginning of this, the china ban was very heavily discussed. were you involved in working with president trump on deciding to ban flights from china? >> yes, sir, i was. >> do you agree with that decision? >> i do. >> do you think that decision saved lives, dr. fauci? >> yes, i do. so you agree with the decision when ultimately we saw spread in europe and then the president recommended that we extend that to

redfield? >> again, i think it was an important decision in light -- >> did you agree with the decision? >> yes, i said it's an important decision. >> thank you. >> did you discuss this change with vice president pence or with secretary ail czar? >> not directly. >> indirectly? >> i talked directly with the individuals responsible within the secretary's office. >> did you discuss it with vice president pence? >> no. >> did you discuss it with secretary azar? >> no. >> who told you about the reasons for this change? >> well, i think we collectively understood the reasons, if i can answer, is there was substantial advancements in therapy petics with remdesivir which made it really important to be able to understand who was newly hospitalized in realtime that day so allocations of remdesivir could get to that hospital. >> i thank you very much for that. and so you developed the reasons. no one dictated the reasons or told you the reasons for the change. you came up with the reasons? >> congressman

redfield. opening up schools is the right thing to do for our kids. so they don't fall behind academically and also so that children that are in need of services special needs children, children with mental health issues, nutrition needs, have the support that they receive at the schools. it's important, though, for parents and for works families and i asked secretary scalia to be here from the department of labor to speak about the impact on, as we put america back to work, making it possible for us to have single parents back in the workforce. it's essential that we get our schools opened as well. so i wanted secretary scalia and secretary of hhs to finish our remarks before we go to questions. mr. secretary? >> thank you. mr. vice president, good to be with you all today. for reasons that secretary devos mentioned, and the vice president mentioned, of course, having our schools open is so important to our children's education, but as vice president has said, it's very important as well to wo

redfield and dr.g time and it's been two months and we're in the middle of a pandemic, setting a record for a state count and the president came into the rose garden yesterday and he was supposed to talk about china. i just want to show the headline of a great analysis piece by our friend peter baker of "the new york times," trump turned it into a meandering monologue. the president spoke in the rose garden for 63 minutes and spent only six minutes answering questions from reporters. this is the president's operation and yet he seems to not want to confront the reality of the moment. >> it often seems like the president is having one conversation and the rest of the country is having a very different conversation. i would add to the list of examples that you just pointed on. he's traveling to atlanta today, home of the cdc and is not planning to make a stop there, as well. this underscores the disconnect where the president's head is and where public health officials are. as josh noted, what we saw fr

robert redfield. we had conversations about a wide range of covid-19 topics, but none more timely than getting our children back to school. throughout the last few weeks, i have spent countless hours talking with educational leaders around the state. everyone agrees that for the future of our sheer drum -- our children, we want everything we can have them back in a learning environment this fall. working with superintendent woods, administrators, and school boards around the state, we have crafted guidelines for schools that i am very proud of because it took the assumption that we would open schools but we would do it very safely and ensure that schools have the tools they have to protect the students, the staff, the teachers as well as the community as a whole. we know and fully expect that there will be some cases of covid among students and teachers and we are doing everything we can to provide the resources needed to protect everyone in the school setting. fema, schools are receiving allotments o

redfield? >> i think it was an important decision. >> do you agree with the decision? >> yes, i said it's an important decision. >> did you discuss this change with vice president pence or secretary azar? >> not directly. >> indirectly? >> i talk directly with the individuals responsible within the secretary's office. >> did you discuss it with vice president pence? >> no. >> that you discuss it with secretary azar? >> no. >> who told you about the reasons for this change? >> i think we collectively understood the reasons, if i can answer, is there was substantial advancements in therapeutics with remdesivir, which made it really important to be able to understand who was newly hospitalized in real time that day so allocations of remdesivir to get to that hospital. >> i thank you very much for that. so you developed their reasons, no one dictated the reasons are told you the reasons for the change, you came up with the reasons? >> yes, i think it was important that we were able to enter real ti

redfield described. one was changing the guidelines, the guidance that was previously released and with dr. redfield this morning was just adding supplemental guidance. which of those is actually happening? is the white house in addition also planning to release its own guidance? >> i think dr. redfield was noting he doesn't plan to rescind the current guidance that's out there. it will be supplemental guidance but these are not requirements and not prescriptive is the way he characterized the initial guidance. he said this guidance should not be used as a reason for schools not to reopen. we all have the same goal here. it is for schools to reopen because the health of the child depends on it. it is imperative as the presentation i showed to rectify disparities that we get these schools open. >> is the white house releasing additional documents as well? >> i have no announcements on that. none in the works but it doesn't mean it won't happen. >> thank you. are the president's taxes still under audit and

redfield. would you assess our federal government, the cdc included is doing everything possible to respond to the coronavirus crisis? dr. redfield? >> i think we do have a comprehensive response. the one comment i want to make is the complexity is, as i mentioned before, for over five decades, we've underinvested in the core kafabilities of public health. hopefully we've seen the consequence of that. >> with our capabilities right now, would you assess that the federal government is doing everything possible? >> within the capabilities that we do have, but recognizing the core capabilities have not been invested in effectively over the last five decades. >> admiral, same question to you. is our federal government doing everything possible to respond to the coronavirus crisis? >> it's a very broad question. i do agree with dr. redfield. i think within the capabilities we have we are doing that. >> dr. fauci, do you agree with your colleagues here, within the capabilities of the federal governme

redfield. would you assess that our federal government, the cdc included, is doing everything possible to respond to the coronavirus crisis? dr. redfield? >> i think we do have a comprehensive responsech the one comment i want to make is the complexity is, as i mentioned before for over five decades, we've underinvested in the core capabilities of public health and hopefully we've seen now the consequence of that so -- >> was our capabilities right now, would you assess that we're -- that the federal government is doing everything possible? >> within the capabilities that we do have. >> yeah. >> but recognizing the core capabilities have not been invested in effectively over the last five decades. >> okay. admiral, same question to you. is our federal government doing everything possible to respond to the coronavirus crisis? >> that's a very broad question. i do agree with dr. redfield. the capabilities that we have we are doing that. >> dr. fauci, do you agree with your colleagues here, within

redfield? morning, chairman clyburn, ranking member scalise and members of the subcommittee. thank you for the opportunity to be here today with my interagency colleagues. on behalf of cdc, i want to extend our deepest sympathies for the loss of our nation's esteemed georgia congressman and your colleague john lewis. our nation will remember him for his courage, his conviction, his patriotism and his commitment to equity for all. cdc also remembers him as a fierce advocate for public health. working together, we are positioned to honor his life-long commitment to social justice by advancing health equity and mitigating the negative impacts of racism on public health in our nation. the three of us here today are united in delivery of critical initiatives to stop the spread of covid-19 to gain the upper hand on this pandemic in the united states and to protect all americans while dedicating even greater attention to overcoming the health disparities experienced by populations at increased risk fo

redfield. can you explain why the president is threatening to cut funding from schools at a time when educators are saying they need more? foremost, what you heard from the president is just his determination to provide the kind of leadership from the federal level that says we are getting her kids back to school. that's where they belong. we know that based upon what our best officials tell us that we can do that in a safe and responsible way. , the currentar cares act provided billions to support education efforts in states. we expect there will be additional support in congress. very serious is for all the reasons we discussed today. we believe it is essential for our children's academic development and for their and emotional health, to be back in the classroom, and we are going to provide that leadership from a federal level. you, iid i will tell sense a great desire among governors around the country to find a way forward and we have made it very clear to them that we are going to partner

redfield here. mentioned we're in a crisis point and grateful for your time over the past several months. we talked in march and into april when we were going up. thought maybe had we finally reached top of the hill? started to come down, now going up again and dr. redfield says the key to fixing the current crisis of the moment is this -- >> space coverings, use simple face coverings really do work in interrupting this transmission, and if we all wore face covering for the next four, six, eight, twelve weeks possibility this transmission of the virus would stop. >> one, do you agree? if we all wear face coverings in four, six, eight, ten, twelve weeks we'll be in a different position? question two, if so effective would we be where we were now if, dr. redfield, the president of the united states and other people on team trump had said that, wear a mask, dammit. four, six, eight, ten, twelve weeks ago? >> yes. certainly masks are extremely effective. if everyone could wake a ma-- wr a mask, i comple

redfield, and have estates and fed continue work together. as many in this room have reported, national labs have become backlogged causing many georgians to wait days if not over a week for the result. this is simply unacceptable and georgians deserve better. in the coming days we will announce a new regional partner who will expand capacity, adding 10,000 more tests tests a day and providing faster results. as i've said from the beginning, the accessible, accurate and timely testing are key to winning the war against covid-19. we will continue to do whatever it takes to shake up the status quo and fix this pressing issue. as georgia continues to boost testing, add hospital beds,, deliver ppe and provide medical staffing, i'm asking georgians to do their part. after all, it's the community at the feet this virus, not the government. this has been a long, difficult battle for all of us. we have sheltered in place. we've had to distance ourselves from loved ones, and everyone has to make incredible sacrifices along the way. but we now must rea

redfield? >> we continue to look at a variety of number of first responders in our surveys looking at antibodies to try to understand what the virus attack rate is. we do have that for some cities. i don't have it for the west coast right now but we -- >> you do have the information on some law enforcement in some cities. >> first responders, for example we have done new york, detroit, we're doing rhode island right now. and -- >> that information would be helpful to the committee when i think but what our law enforcement is having to enduring at the protests not just the violence but the exposure now that they're getting to the virus from the protesters, and frank live i would wish we would get some -- something from the other side. the islands on what i happening at protests and the impact it's having on law enforcement is just unfortunatement. i hope they join is in speaking out against -- >> the -- >> everything that is happening to law enforcement around the country. >> the gentlemen gentl

in addition [inaudible] >> i think doctor redfield was owning he did plan to extend the current guidance that is out there and it will be supplemental guidance but these are not requirements and not prescriptive and it was the way he characterized the initial guidance and he said this guidance should not be as a reason for schools not to reopen. we all have the same goal here. for schools to reopen because that helps the child and it's imperative as a presentation i showed. >> additional documents as well? >> i have not in the works but it doesn't mean it won't happen. >> thank you, kaylee. are the presidents tactics still under audit and specifically which years? >> the presidents taxes are still under audit but i don't have the years for you. >> he could release these taxes at any time. his own nominees ruled against him so why should the american public at this point believe that the president has nothing to hide? >> let me note something. the taxes are under audit and he will release them when they are no longer under audit. the justices did not rule against him. in fact, it was a un

redfield. you are on the front lines as well as the teams behind you working to implement president trump's plan to combat the virus and addressing thousands of people working under him, talked about 7,000 deployments that have been made under president trump's command to have men and women in the uniform to help at the state and local level. we have seen so much work done on the plan and i keep going back to it because i know -- >> i'm john king in washington and listening to the closing statements, the house select subcommittee on the coronavirus and a hearing for several hours. dr. fauci, dr. redfield of the cdc and admiral brett giroir have been testing for several hours and largely political hearing. that was steve scalise saying the president had a plan from day one and democrats just don't like it. but steve scalise making the point it's effective. the democrats say it may have been a plan on paper and not implemented it well, did not coordinate with the state governments and allowed sta

robert redfield, urging the president as we played earlier, to wear a mask.nd also said universal mask wearing over the next four to eight weeks could help stem, bring the epidemic under control. what effects are we seeing lawmakers, specifically, to spread the outbreak, we saw the vice president wearing the mask and florida governor ron desantis for the first time as well. what are you seeing? >> right, it's interesting, speaking of florida because i've been reporting from here for the past couple of months, ron desantis has been very slow to issue a statewide response to this pandemic. it took him a while to issue that first stay-at-home earlier in the spring. and he's yet to issue a statewide mask order and leaving it to the counties. and by law, you see that in miami-dade county as well. it's interesting, though, in texas with republican governor greg abbott there's a statewide mask mandate there. so there's definitely some push among some republicans among the rise in cases to definitely wear a mask because it shows that wearing a mask could definitely s

redfield does this as well. number two, we privatized -- provide support the state plan. we provide thousands of swabs to the media and the state to fulfill the plan. i was want to say yes we have lots of support in phoenix. phoenix has three federally funded retail site. this was on a per capita basis. the overall program has tested just under one million individuals and has located cases in communities of high vulnerability. we also have 13 3.0 sites. sites that can do that without a federal stipend or grant.

redfield in a few minutes on the town hall. do you think the cdc will be able to walk this line, stand up to the president, not back off regulations, but get the schools open? >> i don't know. from a scientific perspective i think the answer would be yes. obviously erin, as i think you're alluding to, there's a lot of other factors at play here. i put my parent hat on here even more than doctor/journalist hat on. you want your kids to go back to the safest possible environment, right? i know it's harder for some schools than others. i think anybody who's followed the story for the last couple of months knows six feet away, masks, have plenty of hand hygiene stations, make sure kids don't congregate in certain areas. those things all make sense. they should make sense to anybody who's followed this along, why those would be considered too strict or too stringent, i don't know. i think one of the questions really here still is kids obviously, it's pretty clear, don't get as sick from this disease, covid. i think an unanswered que

redfield made clear want federal don't guidance to be a substitute for state and local laws and rules and guidance. there here to assist with

redfield last week, talked a lot about schools. and you'll remember, wolf, the cdc did release this guidance for schools, pretty common sense guidance. stay six feet away, masks as much as -- masking policies, hand hygiene stations, all this sort of stuff, stuff that you probably could've figured out. then we heard from the vice president that, look, these recommendations were too strict and they needed to go back and revise them. and we talked to dr. redfield, he basically said i'm not revising those, i will provide supplemental material but that's it. some of those revisions were supposed to come out today. they didn't. we were looking forward to hearing dr. redfield testify. it sounds like that's not going to happen now. so i think this is just another example of us not getting the type of knowledge, you know, practical, accessible, actionable knowledge that i think people absolutely need right now. >> we certainly do need it. and all this comes, sanjay, as the united states keeps setting and then breaking the record of new case

redfield, i've interviewed him before. he was under the impression, as erica hill's piece just pointed out, that there would be a little bit of a lull with the warmer weather. a lot of people sort of thought maybe that would happen. clearly that didn't happen here. i don't know, jake. i was a little surprised by dr. redfield's comments here because clearly you can look at the trajectory. you can look at the data. you can see that there was an impact of closing. and then there was an impact of re-opening. the only thing i would say is that when you look at the mobility data around the country, part of the reason you had such increased mobility to the southern states including where i live here in georgia and florida is because these states reopened. same thing in south carolina. so they became destinations even more so than normal in the spring months. so i think, you know, he's right. there were several things that were happening at the same time. but there was increased mobility and part of that increased mobility was hap

robert redfield warned the risk redfield warned the risk of n of not wearing masks over the next few weeks could be dire. and think the fall and the winter of 2020 and 2021 will be probably the most difficult times we've experienced in american public health. >> reporter: in texas where hospitalizations have surged to nearly 60% in the last t nearly 60% in the last two weeks, some smaller hospitals are having to turn away covid patients. in the rio grande valley, ambulances are waiting five to twelve hours to deliver patients. in arizona, moises ramirez loza dow been on a ventilator more than a week, his first floor room a saving grace allowing his children to keep vigil. >> we speak through the window as loud as we can. sometimes you can see tears falling down. >> reporter: new york pressed ahead today to require visitors from 22 states to self- quarantine or face up to a $10,000 fine. and with the republican national and with the republican national convention in jacksonville just over a month away, organizers are planning to move events to outdoor venues, given florida's covid 19

redfield stressed the measures during a chat with jama.is comes as they are reporting that there is growing evidence that wearing face coverings really works. >>> and napa county is cracking down on people who aren't wearing face coverings, including anyone breaking laws that are related to covid-19. people who hold gatherings, walk outside without a mask, could face a fine. and businesses could also be fined if they are not enforcing the laws. fr >>> california is changing its testing policies. people with symptoms or have been exposed will get priority. >> and ensuring that our guidelines not only say who needs to be tested but gives some guidance to labs on which specimens to process first. >> and this new rule kind of moves away from theso administration's plans for everyone to be tested. the doctor says that the state is averaging $100,000 tests a day but the turnaround time for results is slowing because of the national spike. >>> alameda countrity is asking for permission to continue outdoor dining.y is asking for permission to cont

robert redfield, the 18th director of the centers anddisease control prevention. thank you for joining us today. >> glad to be here, god bless. >> thank you. hello, and welcome back. i'm steve clemons. we are delighted to have you join us for the second hour of the future of the health care summit. i would like to thank the their support of today's great program. we are going to expand our lens in the session to look at policymaking breakthroughs and innovation in the face of seen and unseen challenges. before we get underway, a few housekeeping notes. you can tweet us at #thehillhealth. we are taking questions there. you can see i have a bunch here that have already come in. speakers, beware. if you experience a problem with the livestream, refresh. it should be a quick fix. i don't believe them, but that's what they say. let's get started. i'm least introduce my first -- thethe health of secretary of health and human services. alex azar has a breadth of experience of both the public and private sectors. his key focuses on health care and innovation, all assuming

robert redfield. thank you for joining us today. >> glad to be here, god bless. >> thank you. >> hello, and welcome back. i'm steve clemons. we are delighted to have you join us for the second hour of the future of the health care summit. i would like to thank the support for today's great program. we are going to expand our lens in the session to look at policymaking breakthroughs and innovation in the face of seen and unseen challenges. before we get underway, a few housekeeping notes. at #an tweet us thehillhealth. if you experience a problem with the livestream, refresh. it should be a quick fix. i don't believe them, but that's what they say. has a breath of experience of both the public and private sectors. focuses on health care and innovation, all assuming added significance. had a really fantastic forum and it wouldn't be what it would be without you. let me start off and ask you, we have had various discussions of coronavirus challenges from the frontline, what is going on in communities, th

robert redfield. dr. redfield, thank you for joining us again this morning. vice president pence said quite clearly yesterday the cdc is revising school guidelines because the president thinks they are too tough. should the doctors and scientists at the cdc be taking that kind of political direction from the president? >> well, thank you, george. i want to clarify. really what we're providing is different reference documents, so our guidelines are our guidelines but we are going to provide additional reference documents to aid, basically communities that are trying to re-open k through 12s. we'll do guidance for parents and/or reference documents for parents and caregivers, reference documents for schools to understand better how to monitor for symptoms, reference documents for how to use face masks in the school setting and reference documents for how to evaluate and monitor so i think it's really important. it's not a revision of the guidelines. it's just to provide additional information to help the schools be able to use the guidance that we put forward.

redfield mention and apply them to the maternal health disparities. supporting the community groups that have been long-term involved in this issue. is a comprehensive bill. we have bipartisan support. we are excited about this national conversation that is happening around saving moms' lives. covid-19 has certainly impacted covid-19 -- impacted maternal health in. this country the cdc put out a report in june that black and likely tomen are have on us they are pregnant. we have to have a wide angled lens focus and this act would allow us to tackle those issues. you onei want to ask last question because it has been on my mind. used to work at the department of health and human services. i do not know if you heard my discussion with secretary alex azar earlier, but i asked about their efforts to replace obamacare and if there was anything real. he said he thought there was. and he said that -- i asked him, a lot of people worry about pre-existing conditions. where's the trump administration on that? mandatinge are pre-existing conditions remain covere

robert redfield. that's going to be a very important program that starts at 8:00 eastern. >>> breaking news, michael cohen has been taken back into custody. just weeks after leaving prison on house arrest, i mean, i wonder if it's the reason we'd seen he went out doing what a lot of people aren't doing, which is to dine at a restaurant. >> so, there was that. and let's remind folks he was released from prison in upstate new york because of the epidemic. they made a case that he should be released. and they went ahead and released him in may. may 21st he was released. he was supposed to stay in prison until around november of 2021. so, he got out about 18 months early. what we don't know is why the burrow of prisons probation department decided he should be detained again. what his lawyer tells us is he was ordered to appear at the federal court house in lower manhattan to meet with the probation department. and they wanted him to sign an agreement not to speak to the media, not do any kind of social m