redfield. i'm thinking about the -- what president biden said.death and we hope that that darkest scenario that he presented does not come to fruition. for people that have two vaccines and a booster, should they go about their normal lives? >> it depends on your risk tolerance. if you're fully vaccinated and you even get a break through, it's likely to be mild. so for those individuals, it up to the own risk tolerance. we have to learn how to risk calculate. the virus is not going anywhere. the best thing to do is get vaccinated so when we get the infection, it's a mild one. >> martha: do you agree with dr. redfield that we're going to be getting vaccines or recommendations for vaccines every five or six months because the vaccines and the immunity don't last nearly as long as we thought they would? >> i do think it's a little early to say that for sure. what we're seeing with the mrna vaccines, they do tend to wear off than other types of vaccines. there's second generations that are in the works. so we may be able to avoid that. it's dependent

robert redfield, former cdc director.r your time today. >> thank you guys very much. god bless. >> gillian: thank you. >> mike: fascinating stuff. a fourth shot potentially to deal with omicron? >> gillian: i haven't heard that anywhere else before, mike. i'm trying to absorb the news, kind of surprised. i'm waiting on my booster myself. it's been hard to schedule one here in the district. i don't know about another states, but you got to wait sometimes two weeks to get an appointment, so as nice at is is to think about a fourth mister, it's going take a long time to get the third shot. >> mike: i got my booster last friday. let's head to the white house. jen psaki stepping up ahead of the president's speech. let's listen in. >> secretary psaki: will make sure you have plenty of times to get set for the presence or marks. he is running a little bit late today so we will let you know an update. >> reporter: first off, have -- [inaudible] >> secretary psaki: he is asymptomatic. i spent several hours with him this morning an

redfield, great to see you.hanks, brian, thanks for having me. first and foremost to remind the american people that vaccines do work. the challenge with the vaccine is you have to maintain them. so obviously maintaining your vaccination state with additional injections is fundamental. second thing, i think, we really have to finally embrace the tool of what i call knowledge of infection and what that means is we need to have expanded testing. we need to be able to let people understand if they are the silent epidemic and pull themselves out of the transmission and pull everybody as if they are infected, why don't we focus on people that are infected with expanded testing. the president is going to talk about but i think really our nation probably needs over a billion tests a month just from a public health point of view. we still have a listening way to go. finally, i hope that they'll be a real aggressive push on public-private partnership to advance antiviral development to retool the antibody that is we lost

. >> is biden administration prepares, doctor redfield slams the brakes on the vatican saying that we need to learn to live with covid-19, not shutting everything down in fear. this virus is going to be with us for the duration and they've got to start learning how to live with it and i've always thought that we need to look at the situations as he had to do them in a safe and responsible way in the city seek director never advocated shutting down predict that is not in the public best interest from kids k-12 and thought well what we needed to do is learn how to give the schools open in a safe and responsible way. >> to me i will begin with you as we are just now learning it then senator elizabeth warren has tested positive for covid-19 and tammy wasn't expecting that you're hoping to hear from the president on tuesday pretty. >> for small obviously we were senator warren the best also can heal, eight months pregnant, has also tested positive for covid-19 and she's doubled and vaccinated and this is what we are looking at as they noted, you don't get rid of the virus, they mutate in t

robert redfield. i think there is some problems in america with trust in institutions, including with health professionals and then when you have the white house and the cdc saying two different things about not even knowing that the variant was going to be a problem when the cdc director says it was. one more thing from vice president harris in which she said we didn't see delta coming. upon his advice and direction she have relied. didn't see delta or omicron coming. that's the nature of what this awful virus has been. as it turns out has mutations and variants. sir, we learned enough that everybody knows you have mutations and variations. they knew on november 8 when the south africans said there is a variant here. i don't understand how they can say they were caught offguard. maybe you can help me figure that out. >> i think you're right. clearly the nature of this virus is, it will keep changing and have new variants. those variants are going to be important in that they will gain transmission ad

robert redfield, former cdc director under donald trump. to the doctor's point, we're seeing mask requirements expand beyond new york and california, thinking of instituting that statewide, an indoor mask mandate for everybody indoors. we're getting word out of the nfl requiring covid boosters by december 27th for all nfl players. we'll keep you on top of that. keep you on top of the latest developments in washington where the senate will tackle that debt ceiling measure. that doesn't look to be a problem for the time-being though but the build back better measure, that is looking like it's a problem, after this. ♪. ♪♪ it starts with a mother's determination to treat her baby's eczema. and grows into a family business that helps thousands more. it starts with an army vet's dream of studying the stars. and grows into a new career as an astrophysicist. it starts with an engineer's desire to start over. and grows into an award-winning restaurant that creates local jobs. they learned how on youtube. what will you learn? your shipping manager le

redfield it has to be a billion a month. go to a website. get it delivered and free and paid for by the government. here is why. i want people to know right away whether they've been exposed or got it early on so that they then can be the group that is separated. we don't need the whole country to feel they've had it. do you know how many patients say i have a sniffle, what do i do? if i know you have it, where is the tool to help you? i hope the president will talk about this today, which is we need that pill, we need that pfizer pill. we need that pill approved by the fda immediately and we have to have a way so if you are positive you have access to the pill. i want hundreds of millions of doses of that pre-purchased by the government as well not to mention the monoclonal antibodies that are scarce. everybody is running around looking for the test, antibodies, pill. we have to get past that if we want to get rid of the fear. >> dana: dr. siegel. peter doocy showed us kamala harris says we didn't see delta coming, we didn't see omicron com

not only that, but trumps former cdc director robert redfield said this in august. >> i'm going to predict that within two, three, four months we will have another variant and that marriott will be more infectious than the delta variant. >> kayleigh: so leslie, how can biden say no one saw this coming? >> leslie: scientists and medical professionals know how fluid this is and know that any virus, covid or otherwise, it mutates. but of course they don't have crystal balls. we look at how fast this omicron spread, when we look at south africa for example, and we had to cut off travel from there and the administration got great for that, i didn't blame donald trump for covid. i didn't like when he said it would be behind us and a couple of weeks, and scientists were saying that, but i don't like when any politician put the timeline on it. they don't have control over the timeline and they don't have control over the mutations or how severe those mutations will be. but there are are 71% of american people that have the vaccine and their arm. there are some people out there that believe this in

as far as going forward, robert redfield use to run the cdc.. a very interesting data point for us going forward. he thinks you should know the level of immunity in your body and that would determine whether or not you need to do a shot or a booster. >> last week, i said that! i pose the question i said, what if a booster shot doesn't help you if what you have is a natural immunity? i pose that as a question. >> right now they are starting to second guess why they gave first and second shot three weeks apart. it should've been six weeks or even longer. he and his wife were on the same schedule. for all the shots and all the boosters and their immunity level. >> that's what happens when you're married. [laughter] >> that's terrible. >> i don't even know what it meant. >> i'm just laughing to laugh. [laughter] >> again, there's no need for boosters and people under 30. "new england journal of medicine," why didn't biden come out and say that. no need for boosters. >> that is what the media will say. >> i thought science was in the new england cir

have been surprised but plenty of leading scientists were not including former cdc director robert redfield sounded the alarm in the summer, august. >> this virus is replicating at a high capacity in humans. consequence the risk variant revolution is extremely high. we dealt with the u.k. variant everyone thought pretty bad twice as infectious. low and behollande three or four months later delta variant. sadly i'm going to predict within, you know, two or three four months we will have another variant and that variant is going to be more infectious than the delta variant. >> brian: august two or three months, november, december. he is about 100 percent right. we might not know the variant but we know the virus. we have been able to test for the virus and any variant for two years now. buff because the administration chose not to beef up testing and ended up we ended up with these massive lines. look at this overhead shot new york city today. it's freezing outside. lined up for just a rapid test. meanwhile, president biden already knew this back in december 2020. when he was president-elect.

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robert redfield. he was on air this morning and he had very interesting things to say about feiging omicron. let's take a listen. >> i was a part of the operation warp speed board to bring vaccines to the american public, a great sense of urgency. i don't see the same urgency of bringing the diagnostic tests to the american public. i don't see the urgency. i don't see the urgency in bringing the anti-virals to the marketplace. we need to really accelerate that sense of urgency. >> jacqui heinrich had an opportunity to ask about a certain kind of therapeutic, a pill to fight omicron. the president said they would be looking into that. what is your take on that? >> so there is a lack of urgency. i want to be clear that vaccines need to be the foundation of our protection. that's why everybody needs them. you never hear the administration talk about mono clonal anti-bodies or the oral medicines. the one from merck has been at the fda for weeks. it can reduce hospitalizations by up to 50%. that needs to b

here's how former cdc director robert redfield responded to the report. >> i think nancy messonnier is really an important, enormous public figure, done great service to our nation. when she basically told the truth of what she felt was coming there were some people that weren't really -- really happy about her comments. but i think as everyone knows her comments were right on. there was some decisions after that, unfortunately, that limited cdc's ability to communicate effectively to the american public. >> i think for a lot of folks, tim, nothing they learn about this surprises them, and yet are we finally starting at least in writing and after investigations, starting to get sort of the full impact of the former president's actions and how millions of lives were put at risk? >> yeah. the most surprising thing about that clip, chris, is that little bit of truth broke through over at fox. we were covering at the bulwark the silencing of nancy messonnier way back in march and spring of 2020. and she was really the first person to sound the alarm on an early conference call at the very

you saw me, birx, fauci, redfield on the tv, on the internet all the time, there's more they could be doing to put out positive messages, and combatting misinformation, and we're wondering, where are the psas talking about how vaccines don't cause infertility, how they actually help mothers have a safe and healthy pregnancy. talking about how you should get vaccinated if you've had covid before. there's more we could be doing to combat the misinformation in a productive way, instead of just pointing fingers. >> dr. hotez, we haeeard the president say get vaccinated. he said if you're not vaccinated, you have reason to be concerned. those are primarily the people who are hospitalized. those are, you know, the majority of deaths that we are seeing. again, deaths climbing above a thousand currently, and he said, you know, how critical boosters are. he emphasized how children should get vaccinated because there's been a lot of misinformation around that as well. bottom line here, dr. hotez, do you think this speech will get more people to get vaccinated? >> i think it may make some increm

it was robert redfield, former cdc director i worked within the administration who came on in august,s no reason anyone could have been shot off guard but i wish the president would continue to emphasize and reemphasize that there is a new variant, it is contagious and we are in different place, we have people who are vaccinated. no need for lockdowns but he should emphasize this is a milder version, it is a milder variant. lauren: what is the problem with the testing. >> a huge problem, caused me to open my mouth agape when i heard of this, back during the trump administration, he ordered 500 million tests that donald trump ordered. and and as for the demand for testing, there have not been purchases at the level that needed to be done, the number we heard from the president yesterday. we are in december and cash should have been ordered in january, february, or signal to the private sector, a significant demand for that. >> the strategy has been our way or no way. and and and is the wrong strategy pursued? >> no doubt about it, at started to change with donald trump. let's partner w

will see this variant, which spreads easier and is a lot less three that fall off a cliff robert redfield's the key. people got to stop panicking. carley: i agree. steve: carley, you were saying? carley: yeah, that's right. so yesterday, president biden did a wide ranging interview with abc news. he did talk about the omicron variant, of course. but he also talked about 2024 if he would run again. he said he would but one caveat. >> you said you would absolutely serve 8 years if elected. do you plan to run for re-election? >> yes. but look, i'm a great respecter of fate. >> fate has intervened in my life many, many times. if i'm in the health i'm in now, i'm in good health, then, in fact, i would run again. >> and if that means a rematch against donald trump? >> you trying to tempt me now. ha ha ha, sure why would i not run against donald trump being nominee that would increase the prospect of running. steve: you have got to figure he says that, first of all, because he won in 2020, but, you know, apparently he is not looking at the polls. because, right now in the hypothetical matchup be

robert redfield. doctor, good morning to you. >> good morning. thanks for having me, steve.re going to see and we're going to continue to see more and more variants of covid-19 occur. some of those variants are going to evolve to be a variant of concern. that concern will really be driven by largely increased transmissibility and the potential to escape our counter measures and this is what we should expect and we should expect this to continue, so the omicron variant really is the first variant that has shown that it can outcompete delta, which learned how to outcompete the uk variant which learned how to outcompete the original wuhan variant, and when these viruses evolve, what they do is they evolve to learn how to be more transmissible. at the same time, they evolve usually to become less pathogeni c. now that can be a problem, as you look at the current variant, the omicron variant, in that many of the people that seem to get it are much less symptomatic, but if symptoms is what is sort of the signal for them to stay home, they don't get that signal, and therefore, it's

robert redfield called and said i think we have a problem in china. roles on that day changed from what we were doing, and operation warp speed, which i know we want to talk about today, when that began ramping up, the secretary asked me to play the central operating and liaison role between the department of defense, the department of health and human services, all of its support functions, and the white house. i spent my time for most of the year shuttling back and forth between different agencies and working with the team and making sure they had everything they needed. the operation warp speed team, to be successful. that was my role to support the team that enabled american industry to deliver millions of safe and effective vaccines to the american people faster than before. host: before we go any further, i want to bring to our audience what president trump said in may of 2020 when he announced the creation of operation warp speed. then i will come back to you, paul, and you can give us more information. there is president trump in may of 2020 t