how about social security, is that redistributionist?ean, they just have to come up with slogans because they can't argue on the merits. and the problem is, when you can't argue what you really believe on the merits, you slip up. that's what we saw romney do the other day. >> it reminded me of jimmy carter, who i worked for, after reagan about something he said about medicare in the early '60s. he said, there you go again. the romney campaign dug up an audio clip of senator obama speaking, nothing secretly, about the role of government. let's listen to 14 years ago. >> i think that what we're going to have to do is somehow resuscitate the notion that government action can be effective at all. there has been a systematic -- i don't think it's too strong to call it a propaganda campaign against the possibility of government action and it's efficacy. and i think some of it has been deserved. chicago housing authority has not been a model of good policymaking and neither, necessarily, have been the chicago public schools. >> well, there he i

to the redistributionist, the complaining about redistribution.e redistribution in this country goes from blue states to red states. the people who want it down are the ones who get it, the south receives much more from the government than it gives in taxes. the north and big cities give far more in taxes. yes, money is being redistributed. being redistributed from blue to red, and it's also by the way being redistributed upwards, that is to say being redistributed so that in new york this week we just learned that the top 20% make 40 times what the bottom 20% make. now someone -- you know, nobody -- i don't think anybody can justify a 40 times, 40 factor. >> i don't feel the need to. >> and so we tax a little more for those people to help the other folks, but the reality is more taxes go to republican states than come from republican states, so this crazy acemetery in which the republicans complain about redistribution, the funds are being redistributed to the rich with lower taxes and redistributed to southern states that are poor and need gover

that's where the threat of these redistributionist policies get you. that's what we should be talking about. do we want a redistributionist country or do we want a country fueled by free enterprise, innovation, entrepreneurship, individual empowerment? that's the big question of this election, wolf. >> it's a big question indeed. very quickly, mr. mayor, the governor has criticized president obama for ordering his administration not to deport children who are in the country illegally saying it was a political move. was it strictly a political move? >> absolutely not. you can't have it both ways. he says he doesn't want to mass deport 11 million people, but he wants to make conditions so miserable, so intolerable, so oppressive that they self-deport. no country in the world has ever deported 12 million people. the fact of the matter is, the president did the right thing, that reflected his values, reflected the fact that these kids are going to contribute mightily to the nation. what i would hope is, and i've said this before, that we ought to work on a

the way is going to use another dirty trick because they have this type of obama saying i'm a redistributionist. >> those are his own words. he said it. don't deknny it. if robert costa is right. that means he hasn't had a good week since may. >> he may be in trouble but polls have romney neck in neck, a deed even race with obama. what is your take? >> my take is on the video, this was a chance to refocus the campaign on the right issue whose got the program that is going to build the economy and create jobs and growth not just at the top but for everybody. coming through loud and clear. he has a program to grow the economy and it is going to mean more jobs for everybody. everyone today that would rather be off and having a job. earlier today i spoke with romney's senior advisor ed gillespie just what romney was thinking when he made these comments listen to what he told me. >> he was asked a question about what is your path to winning. he gets asked that question a lot. this answer was, he starts with 47% of the vote. i start with the same. that is the nature of today. we are going to have to

i feel like maybe i'm a redistributionist. i'd rather give them my money.elivery people. delivering your food. they work so hard. they don't even make minimum wage. work purely for tips, soaking wet from the rain. they're so nice. i have an envelope by my door. filled with $10, $5 and $10 i give them extra. nothing like giving somebody a smile like that and a surprise. i love that. >> bob: good. you used to be in the business. you were a waitress. >> andrea: i made good tips. 20-25%. it started off at 20%. i'm with you, eric. if it's horrific and terrible and you all have the experiences i have gone down to 15%. i am known to tip 30%. sky cap at airport, little trick. if you do it with the sky track, they will put first class tags on your bag and give priority to your bag. dai >> dana: recommendation, waitresses and waiterers who work breakfast, double what you thought you'd give them. breakfast is the least expensive meal of the day, and the hardest one to do waiting service on. >> bob: i'm a good tipper, too. when dana and i were staying at the hotel -- >

you talk about president obama the redistributionist in chief.you think it can work for governor romney now? >> i think that we get back really anderson, again to jobs and the economy. jobs and the economy. jobs and the economy and what we want to do is ask people if they are better off now than they were four years ago or do you think you are going to be better off four years from now. i'm glad that foreign policy has finally emerged as an issue to be discussed in this campaign. but it is really going to come down to jobs and the economy. >> thank you for having me on. >> anderson 14 employees of the atf and justice department are cited for possible disciplinary action in mexico. that is the recommendation in the report released today. two of those employees have now resigned. the report also found attorney general, eric holder, had no information until 2011 until a border agent was killed with guns. >> teacher's union voted to suspect it's strike. >> pilots are calling in sick as they fight new contract rules. more than 300 flights have been ca

when i interviewed barack obama he didn't want to be labeled income redistributionist, clearly didn'tyet, years earlier he said he was. should i resent the fact that he wasn't being honest. >> i don't know where he was coming from earlier, bill. what strikes me is where we should be right now. and this is really what we have been writing about. i want everyone in america, this is where i think the president should be and where romney should be. i want everyone in america to have a chance to be their own starter upper. to be out of the 47%. that's to me what the election should be about. >> bill: but it isn't about it. not who is in the 47%. but how do we get everybody out of the 47%. >> bill: let's talk about income redistribution. yard that beyond a reasonable doubt that's what president obama's economic philosophy is. does that make a stronger nation giving people assess, in giving people money? does that make a stronger company if we do that. >> there is no safety net. that goes with capitalism. >> bill: that's not income redistribution though. >> the president has got to answer th

it's more redistributionist than standard -- >> neil: but everyone should have skin in game.o be said for that. still, ther. aspect of this. the president certainly seems to have the main stream media recognizing that he has the edge. does he? >> guest: no. because i think as pat caddell pointed out, people do not want more government. in other words if you think this is a mistake for mitt, what do you think is the correct answer in 47% don't pay federal income tax. would you like it to be 51%? would you like it to be 58%? would you like it to be 62%? we live in a country that is sliding off the cliff. there is no money to give people breaks. money has been spent. we have to pay back $16 trillion officially. just to get back to being broke. and this is why the great wickedness of all this, this is the pitch he should make, we have healthy people in their early 50s who are going on permanent social security disability, because they have given up hope of finding employment. is that america? the great wickedness of big government is not just the waste of money, but the waste of

. >> we have got this tape where obama says i'm a redistributionist, and now obama has a chance -- romneyemphasize his -- romney has an opening to repeat his message, this is your worst nightmare. >> it didn't feel like a nightmare, i will tell you that the politics of opposition does cut both ways. this is a problem i think that is bipartisan in a sense that we asked these candidates to go before donors and give them some special secret sauce that is supposed to sound different than what they tell the voters, i have a problem with that. the mitt romney did get caught sounding disdainful and he had to go on the fox and said he didn't mean that veterans and students and -- he doesn't think those people are moochers, but he did call them moochers. >> there's a couple of minutes missing from that. we'll see. i don't know, to me this will not penetrate the public. phil musser, he's another point it seems to me. the whole growth method. mitt romney has done a lousy job in the last month on spending cuts and deficit reduction and economic growth. he has to explain to people why more take home p

he said he doesn't favor redistribution but he favors a progressive income tax code, which is redistributionistthere's no getting around that. so they are doing the best they can with this. the two of them are on, romney in particular, are on the defensive this week and they managed to make a pivot here, something else they would rather talk about. i'm just not sure how much mileage is in it. >> the redistribution, as with joseph plumber, we are profoundly deeper with how much money we owe as a nation. i think people become more sensitive to the issue about what to do with our money. >> prance so. but the idea is still the same. i don't think the president has changed his view on the matter. maybe he should have. maybe you should make the argument we can't afford to redistribute the wealth you can certainly make the argument it's better to focus on creating wealth than trying to parcel it out. i think that's a value lid argument for the republicans to make. >> and the governor's statement about 47? >> look, if -- the problem with the 37% statement was not that he said 47% of people don't pay in

predecessor, whining about the situation here he inherited, and i would argue, instituting a redistributionist agenda, an ideology that had its origins in 1917. here is a president very old school state tus, big government, i would argue big government guy trying to argue that the republicans are the party of the past. isn't it the democrats? >> jeb bush said at the convention stop blaming my brother. this is now president obama's leadership that has failed. very simply, if you look at the polls, every poll shows that americans, a majority of americans believe we are on the wrong track. they believe that they are disappointed in this president. they believe they are worse off than they were four years ago, what's statistic supports the fact that this president has done the job that he says he has done? >> emily, let me pose that question to you because through the obama's presidency, this is the way he has governed, this is his lifelong philosophy of really big government as i say, a massive expansion of government and the welfare state, which hasn't worked under his presidency, has never work

the redistributionist in chief. the message didn't take off then.rk for mitt romney now? >> i think we get back really, anderson, to jobs and the economy, jobs and the economy, jobs and the economy. and what we want to do is ask people if there are better off than they were four years ago, but also we want to ask them, do you think you are going to be better off four years from now? a lot of these issues are -- are important to certain segments like i'm glad and i believe you may be that foreign policy is finally emerged as an issue to be discussed in this campaign. it really will come down to jobs and the economy. >> senator mccain, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks for having me on. >>> a lot more we're following tonight. we have a 360 bulletin. >>> 14 employees of the atf and justice department are cited for possible disciplinary action for the role in the botched fast and furious gun trafficking operation in mexico. that's the recommendation and the justice department's inspector general's report released today. though two of those em

very negative and making his own errors and now they have this redistribution tape, and i'm a redistributionistmistakes we talk about tonight, i think that the debates could be very important and we may not know how the thing is going to flip until the end. >> i think it is crucial. on the redistribution thing. >> yes. >> what is redistribution and why is that a dirty word? >> i mean, i don't see why it should be. i mean, after all in eisenhower years we had a federal margin income tax of 91% and 92%. and that is obviously for redistribution and social security system is in part about redistribution if you have a death. and i think that also that quote from obama's speech has been somewhat unfair that he goes on the say that he'd favor redistribution to create opportunity. and that's a key phrase. it is different from the carving out somebody and saying more if he talked about the public schools in that speech and this kind of things so people are leery about the idea of robinhood kind of approaches and kind of creating or more starting lines, and more schools for early childhood education for

they're trying to run a campaign still against the old image of democrats as total redistributionists>> you don't have to go back that far. obama said similar things in 2008 and said, while president i think at a certain point you'd made enough money. this is not a 14-year-old idea. >> right. >> this is current. >> if you apply that to policies, if you apply to the vision he's spelling out there, that is a vision that's consistent with conservative traditions. >> i don't know about that. >> ronald reagan, part of this whole controversy right now is about people not paying taxes has to do with the earned income tax credit. conceived by republicans and promoted by ronald reagan who called it the best anti-poverty program we have. this was a conservative vision. is that not redistribution? >> well said. if you support redistribution -- if you support a progressive tax code and social security, medicare, public education, i mean, at their core if you support any taxation, it's all redistributed. >> you're all right. >> it's just a word. >> you can sort of explain it away a little bit, but

his redistributionists' scheme into every major pillar of this economy, and the point always was, to wrap the redistribution is killing tentacles around those trying to strangle the u.s. economy, to straggle out the life of the free-market system. put it all in the hands of the government. essentially a command economy. he's been able to have an enormous success in doing that. he has been doing so much more than just redistributing the wealth here now. his scheme is much more profound and much larger in scale i read a lot about foreign policy. we saw the muslim brotherhood take over the presidency in egypt and the parliament in egypt. i remember being on the:00 and a group c-span2 last year when mubarak was still in power and the american president was helping to overthrow an american ally. and i remember saying, if this thing goes down the muslim brotherhood is stepping in like that. eleanor and some others laughed in my face. they said, this is glorious. it is glorious. of a glorious arab spring. the muslim brotherhood, a sworn enemy of the united states, a sworn enemy of the state

owners who the president thinks are undeserving of their success will simply not pay for his redistributionist dreams. of course, contrary to obama's -- president obama's disdain for business, americans who own and operate businesses did build them and they also paid taxes which built the roads and bridges that they use. and make no mistake, business owners iowners and american word build america. mr. president, they did build that. now, mr. president, let me just go back just a little bit here. i made the comment with regard to all of this media criticism of -- of governor romney, that he was inarticulate in a private meeting where no press was invited. and he's the first to admit that. and he certainly has tried to explain it since. but he's right. he's right. that there are at least 47% of americans who don't pay a nickel or a penny of income taxes. the standard answer by my friends on the other side, is "well, they pay payroll taxes." well, everybody does that. that's social security, basically. we all do that. but 23 million people get refundable tax credits are more than they pay in payr