come into effect and then there's going to be litigation challenges to those rules so this just kyoto redux i mean are we going to see this table forever no while i think it's going to be years before we see a final rule and that final rule is going to be challenged for another couple of years and so you know public citizen worked with members of the senate on the climate protection act of two thousand and thirteen that we would have liked to have seen the president indorsed today because a legislative solution we can act within months and it can be effective within months and what about fracking what is your or his organization's view on fracking in general well we fought the dick cheney led exemption effort in two thousand and five now he's famous for saying that the american way of life is non-negotiable so should have been a go she will turn. energy independence it should definitely be negotiable about whether or not our communities have a right to clean air and clean water duke university just came out with a big landmark study on the health impacts of fracking and found significant ca

will be less cowboy like has evolved into the bush administration redux. so ironic about this trip and one of the reason he's far less popular than five years ago. >> we're out of iraq, leaving afghanistan. >> i understand what the governor is saying. i do think to the extent the the world, those people who gathered at the brandenburg gate five years ago who thought that he was the savior, they don't believe he's the cowboy. >> he wasn't george bush. >> he's not george bush. he doesn't come across with that same vibe. to that extent the united states is better off how it's held around the world. >> objective judgment. >> music played we take a breather quick. we're not done with you. trivia time, we ask who is the most recent massachusetts governor to serve in the u.s. house or u.s. senate. the answer, the state's 60th governor, served in the house in the late '40s, early '50s before becoming governor in 1957. david, we were counting on you for that. looking at today's winner, matt, i can't pronounce your last night. i think it's zafranski. if you have a q

what they also did was they said that the to their employees they were not going to do layoffs or reduxwanted to keep the people there. there's so much competition that if you lose a customer, they have so many place goms not just to sam's club or walmart but to the internet. so one nasty exchange all the way in the back of the story with a surly customer representative, you can loose that person. >> there's something to be said about treating your employees well. i do believe they work harder for you and they're more loyal to you. a lot of companies don't do that. a lot of companies don't pay their employees well. >> i think you make the point that costco and other companies that have this employee focused, you know, benefits and treat them well, have done better through the recession. >> they absolutely have. again, it's about turnover, keeping your talent. maintaining a level of presentation that's important. >> quickly, can the costco formula go international? >> they have to go international. for growth, they're looking at japan and tie baaiwataiwan. they have product issues with d