. >> okay, so we've had both founders of paypal on, and we've had reed hoffman who sat in the chair and wozniak. i have done the calculations. you are on paper worth more than all of them combined. >> yeah, i am aware of those reports. i come back to -- i do think we're creating something very interesting. i was out here in 1997 in the birth of the internet. the movement happened around blockchain, around digital assets, it's very similar. you'll see lots of new cases. we're trying to build ripple into a company that endures -- >> i wish you so much luck and we're not even listening to you because we're thinking, what would it be like to have $9 billion. >> i'm thinking scott coin, now. >> immediately. >> scott coin is going to be run on the actual physical ledger, right? >> really quickly -- hold on. >> three seconds. >> i know i've got to stick in one last question and are you going to be on coin base, the popular way of buying cryptocurrency and there's speculation we'll be able to buy -- you can buy xrp now but not easily. coin base? >> there's about 50 exchanges in the world that a

re reed hoffman said there's a moment going on and scale and size really matter you've scaled on yourood size but do you ever say to yourself for this to get to the next level i got to combine with a mark bennyoff or something? >> not at this point i think we have a great future on our own maybe that's a decision we have to make five or six years down the road my co-founder and i will make that decision with the board and if it's the right decision for shareholders and employees, we'll make it. right now we're growing rapidly. the market is still in the early stages of development, and frankly, a big transaction like that i think would get in the way of hiring the best employees and taking care of customers those are two things we care deeply about. >> i'm amazed at the entrenched tech behemoths didn't realize there was such a great opportunity to start from scratch. where were those guys? they could use that in their portfolio business, couldn't they >> they could. every 10 to 15 years there's a massive disruption in technology. >> did you feel like i'm going to come in here and do t