mark fry, reed wilson and michael steele in new york. oh, no, he's here in washington. >> that's okay. >> michael steele, tea party to me doesn't know how to declare victory or are you look at this now and saying, well i don't blame them for not declaring victory? >> i think it's a little bit of both, actually. you don't want to be too premature. you want to make sure the final vote's done and you have all of your players committed to their particular position like an orin hatch or a mike lee many the senate. but i think going forward, a lot of folks are beginning to realize that you've touched on this numerous times. folks are beginning to realize that this is just the first step in a very, very long road to solving these problems and you don't want to shoot your wad too soon. you don't want to position yourself out of position in this town. you want to carry enough leverage into the next battle. i think you're beginning to see and hear that from some tea party activists. if you look at the polling particularly on the house vote, you se