looking at chief anthony rivera, and he has a staff, as well, in captain steve mcpartland, captain james reedy. otto sarkisian is our engineer, and we'd cliek to clone him because he gets work done quickly. i would say our single point of contact is deputy chief rivera. >>commissioner cleaveland: the 9-11 ceremony, has that been fleshed out in terms of details, where and what time and all that good stuff? >> commissioner hayes-white: so on 9-11, typically what we have done, at least since 2004, every station has a similar ceremony where the -- that we have a commemoration of what occurred in 2001, the world trade center, in shanksville, pennsylvania, and then, at the pentagon, and all the names are read. any member of the public or commission are welcome to participate at any station. typically, i will pick a station to participate. it's been station 15, station 19, station 7, station 4. a lot of times, if there's a class in session, which there will not be this time, we do it at station 7. so more to follow on that, but we'll put a general order out, and it goes through exactly sort of what t