so the teacher reelevation is there boundary line and they've got a 5 on so the elevation puts you over the top. >> can i add california recommends the inclusion of both english proficiency outcome academic outcomes and teacher opinions. however, some other states don't function that way some other states are purely built on a english proficient tested so california is different there's other states like california but not every state. so that's a more rigorous standard in california or other states. it depends on on where the thresholds are set but i'll say there are debates within the fold to include the other criteria there's arguments both 0 for or against >> it shouldn't be any different that's what we agriculture about. >> commissioner wynns i want to ask those what you've showed us charges us to the statewide overcame do we have any way of knowing how our kids with doing. >> do we care the answer is yes but. >> do we care yes can we find out no, the state doesn't publish the data and in particular not publish them desegregated by kids in kindergarten so it will have lots of e ls