he was so reflaxed, fell asleep 100 miles down river and comes back up. that's the story he liked to tell a lot. that's why -- that's why as i was doing this, it came up on me more oh more there's a certain myth, and i don't know what it was. i speak late in the book if you read it, i speculate in the book that, well, how do i put it? that in order for the myth to be born, the man had to die in a way, and i -- there was nothing holding him to a sound. he had his father, well, his father died two years after he moved to ohio, but his stepmother and half brothers and sisters were living only 80 miles away in the duck creek settlement now what is dexter city i think. that was an afternoon stroll for john. there's a wonderful history of washington county where all of this took place. there's no mention of john chapman or johnny appleseed appearing at all. everybody else appears in it which leads me to believe he never went back to visit his family, so i don't know what it was. there's a bunch of possible reasons for that, but just -- anyone else? please. ask