joining me is regina lewis. you. >> thanks, alex. >> the market reaction to the shutdown, what's it like? >> very much a roller coaster ride this week. very headline driven, which makes it hard to make transition al bets. described the as treacherous because you have monetary uncertainty on top of fiscal uncertainty. that's before you get to the standard fair of not knowing what corporate earnings are looking like. if you look at a weekly chart, thursday and friday the market went up. and that reflects light at the end of the tunnel sentiment. we'll see if that holds true. >> okay. what about blackberry and the fallout there. but now maybe it's a bailout. >> here come the co founders. blackber blackberry, way, way down, down to $8 a share. where is the value? certainly in patents. they were a technology leader way back when. some of it has value, to the tune of $2 billion. you're sitting on a real collectible if you still have a blackberry. >> you had to bring it up. >> you have seen antiques road show. they may

regina lewis, sounds like fun things. let's start with the jobs numbers.t know if that's so fun since the government is shutdown delayed them all. >> which means they can't couple pile the statistics or get people to weigh in on the survey. one of the things most fascinating in the back story is does this become the new norm? because it's been revealed only 70% of people routinely reply, which is why we are constantly talking about revised numbers. should you do it quarterly? how accurate are the numbers? if only 70% of people are replying because it is always tbd. >> what is not going to make merchants too happy or merry this holiday season. >> we're not feeling super powerish. so when you have words like shutdown, stalled economy, it doesn't make you ready to go full force into the holiday shopping season. that's really significant. it is expected to be flat, maybe even down. that is super significant. plus, you have jc penney. the mall will be hardest hit. so is 60% going to be the new 10% discount? deep discounting. a lot less self gifting. the phenome