reginald liles has been the liaison. he said he's a police officer. i did not know. that you've got a great reputation for that. >> i always believed in matthewr i al nsof y can keep the peace if you've got enough power, weapons, authority. a peacemaker has to listen and understand all factions and try to navigate and create a peaceful solution where everybody is affirmed ft. kethatconcept. we know there's beena lot of tension in our communities and our african- american community with police. i'm sure you had to walk the line at times. >> i'm a fierce critic. i love cops, but in the last 20 to 25 years, they walked away from their ethical positions. not all of them. there's a percentage there that have walked away from derstandg of who and what they are in our society and community. there by we have mario woods, gardener, castillo. it's just wrong. >> you're speaking from experience not a critic outside. inside makes a difference. they're not happy but the truth is delight. they have to get back to ethics. you don't -- . the truth sets us free. >> mario woods 114 to