. >> i am reginald mason and i'm the director of safety -- safety in treading enforcements. supervisor campos: the want to take questions or do you want to add to what has been said? >> if it pleases the board, we're happy to take questions. supervisor campos: why don't we turn it over to president chiu? president chiu: overtime has affected different apartments for many years. elected officials may come and go but this is something your department has not been able to get a handle on for a long time: so if we could try to drill down a little on that. do you know with other jurisdictions: are the best practices and what are good agencies doing to manage overtime? how did the percentages compared to what we've got here? >> in our system, and this amplifies to some of what was said earlier, over time is not a four-letter word, if you will, in transit because especially the service plans driven by the amount of service and operators and applied the work rules and we have the ability to have someone working 12 hour day. the nature of our business is reischauer, so if we stretch

people, not wanting the job, two, not making the cut, and you know, i've always cautioned john and reginald mason who is responsible for traping, yes, we're short operators but we're not going to cut corners because we'll create a safety issue for the agency. i believe it's six weeks to create an operator in terms of training and -- but our attrition rate, we lose people monthly. we're losing between eight to a dozen operators on a monthly basis. >> have we ever looked a at the possibility of increasing capacity within our training? we constantly have this attrition going on. >> we're looking at increasing the number of trainers, increasing the hours of training, i believe we're doing training not just monday through friday but training is occurring on saturdays and sundays. there have been some tratjis, maybe it would be better that -- >> i mean there's actually three -- there's three things we've been doing. one is extending the training hours, one is looking at the available pool of trainers, in other words, supplement traditional instructors with something called line instructor, operators wi