. >> reichard i was just looking at a "usa today" piece from 2019. don lemon was talking to jada pinkett smith and he indicated that he tested jussie smollett daily, that was the use where he used to characterize the relationship. again, that was from "usa today," and 2019. i think already hit the nail on the head. we have to ask ourselves, is a relationship beyond a reporter trying to get more information. when you were in your last job and when i was in mine, reporters email you all the time. you can even have very friendly relationships, because you are all working together at close contact. clearly, don lemon has talked about the camaraderie that he had with jussie smollett, both being, and persons of color in the media. and the struggle that they have had to go through. you can see how they would have a camaraderie over that. what we really need is the answers for, does this go beyond camaraderie? does this impede a police investigation? at the heart of this, is of, jussie smollett, the hate crime that happen, when it in fact had not. it was wal