dear reid, i need you to read this and be calm. reid, do not be a hero.e are three men holding me right now and they want $50,000 cash. i will be okay if you get them the money. >> what do you know about the victim? >> we knew she was a housewife raising children in one of the prettier parts of our county. >> reid and quinn gray were new to st. john's county, having just moved into their beachfront home in pon tevedra. it's known for its golf course and lux homes. >> i don't want to use the term the perfect kidnapping victim, but it fit. >> her husband made a lot of money. >> worst-case scenario is we make one wrong move they kill her. >> on the day she was kidnapped the 37-year-old pta mom had made appointments for her daughters to get haircuts and she was far along in the planning for an upcoming party for one of her daughter's birthdays. now reid gray tried to shield that their mom was in danger. he picked up the girls from school and took them to a friend's house. while he waited at the sheriff's office, reid was still in his shirt and tie from work a

reid: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the armed services committee be discharged from further consideration of h.r. 139 -- i'm sorry. 1339. we now proceed to this matter. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: h.r. 1339, an act to designate the city of salem, massachusetts, as the birthplace of the national guard of the united states. the presiding officer: is there objection to proceeding to the measure? without objection. mr. reid: i further ask the bill be read a third time, passed, the motion to reconsider be considered phaeupbd laid on the table, with no intervening or debate and statements related to the measure be printed in the record at the appropriate place as if read. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: i ask unanimous consent the committee on commerce be discharged from further consideration of h.r. 4212 and we now proceed to this matter. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: h.r. 4212, an act to prevent the introducti

reid: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that a time determined by the majority leader with the concurrence of the republican leader, the senate proceed to the consideration of calendar number 502, h.r. 8. the presiding officer: is there objection to the request? without objection. mr. reid: i ask unanimous consent that following leader remarks on sunday, december 30, the senate proceed to executive session and consider calendar numbered 518 under the previous order. further, that the use or yielding back of the time, we would proceed to consideration of calendar number 909 and proceed to vote on calendar number 909 and calendar number 518. that there be two minutes for debate equally divided in the usual form prior to each vote, the motion to reconsider be considered made and laid on the table, no further motion in order be in order to the nominations, any statement to the nominations be printed in the record, that president obama be immediately notified of the senate's action and the sena

reid: and i would, mr. president -- i think we all at a subsequent time will -- may i just talk to his wife, who walked out here. and i will have some more formal remarks at a later time. mr. mcconnell: mr. president? the presiding officer: the republican leader. mr. mcconnell: i, too, am going to address the remarkable life of senator inouye at a later time, but i did want to make some observations here just for a few moments at the time of his passing. he was a man who, as we all know, rarely called attention to himself but who lived a remarkable american life filled with dignity and grace of the true hero that he was. only 17 when he heard the sirens over honolulu and saw the great planes flying overhead. at the time he dreamed of being a surgeon. a few years later a medic would be taking care of him after his heroic actions in the italian mountains for which he would one day receive our nation's most prestigious award for military valor. dan inouye's dream of being a surgeon was not realized, but there

harry reid, before his closed door luncheon, said he was still cautiously optimistic. hard to see from our perspective why he would say this because things seem pretty bleak at this point, though you never know what's going on behind closed doors. melissa. >> thank you very much. keeping an eye on that podium because senator harry reid is apparently going to come out and speak in a few minutes so we'll watch for that. let's go to the white house correspondent kristen welker. we know the senate majority leader has talked to the president. has there been any reaction from the white house today. >> reporter: the white house is not commenting on these negotiations that are going on over on the hill. they do not want to derail them by speaking out, by agitating the situation, but i tell you that there is a lot of investment here going on behind the scenes. in addition to mitch mcconnell speaking to vice president biden, the president sent his top negotiator, one of his top negotiators, rob nabors over to the hill. he's meeting with senate democrats as well this afternoon. a

harry reid says there's not. more of the same ping-pong we've had over the last few days. >> were no closer to steering away from the cliff. we are much closer to the cliff. the president made a round of calls last night to talk to congressional leaders about the need to get something done. no one has that produced in the form of a bill. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is saying this is the first contact he's had from a democrat since thanksgiving. you need unanimous continue sent for a lot of things to happen. >> and we're now hearing that the white house is denying there's a new plan from the president. so the white house and harry reid are both denying scott brown and gopas about this new physical cliff plan which puts us back to square one. you tackled this issue of john boehner's control over his conference. in a really interesting way. you basically said he's a substitute teacher in the sense that even when he disciplines folks like holtzcamp who were insubordinate and ripped them of committee assign

if harry reid and mr. mcconnell can't come up with something, then you have barack obama's proposal and he wants that up or down vote, and one way or another, he is going to try to get people on the record. >> and joy, before it gets to the house republicans, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who could mess this up, right? even if mcconnell and reid have a deal, there is not a guarantee that there is not a single tea party-backed senator who would stand in the way and say it won't pass me. >> are you giving rand paul the side eye? >> i had him in mind, true. >> and at the end of the day, mitch mcconnell is a better leader of the caucus than boehner is, and mcconnell has controlled the levers of the filibuster process, and the tact that he is meeting with harry reid means there won't be a filibuster and i would be surprised if he could not whip the congress. we have not seen a weaker speaker of the house than john boehner who has essentially thrown up the hands and walked away from the process a

so joining me, i think we still have joy ann reid from the grio.to ask you if you're still there about the comments that -- i'll just read them out from harry reid, the senate majority leader. he said there was a long meeting at the white house, it was very constructive. we hope it will bear fruit but that's what we hope to learn. he said i think the next 24 hours will be tre instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. we talked about a lot of things. there's no concrete proposal at this time he said. we have a number of different directions we're going it try to take and we're going to see what can be worked out. joy, if they're talking like this in vague terms, does this make us feel like there's something going on? i mean, obviously there's a communication there, but without a concrete proposals, how quickly can they turn this around? >> well, you know what, richard, i think this could be john boehner learning the lesson of not to put out any specifics he can't deliver on. we were just talking about that before. he's been burned before by s

so if harry reid and mr.ll can't come up with something, then you've got barack obama's proposal and the up or down vote and one way oar the over, he's going to get them on the record. >> joy, even before he gets to the house, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who can mess this up, right? even if they have a deal, there's no guarantee that there isn't a deal, tea-party backed senator. >> are you giving rand paul the side eye here? >> i had him in mind. that's true. >> at the end of the day, mitch mcconnell is a much better leader of his caucus than john boehner is and he's really controlled the levers of the filibuster process. i would find that very surprising if he couldn't win his caucus. the problem is here never have we seen, not in my lifetime, a weaker speaker of the house of representatives than john boehner. john boehner has essentially thrown up his hands and walked away from the congress and the main da mandate and he's essentially said, you guys pass something. it's the house that's th

reid said everybody can go home until about 11:00 tomorrow. tomorrow is new year's eve, for those paying attention. and apparently, there's no dignity left in the senate or house and they will be in tomorrow on new year's eve pretending like they're going to get to some kind of resolution here. >> what do we know about where they are, robert? did the inclusion of the vice president make any difference? what do you know? >> i think that's a key point, chris. tin collusion of vice president biden in these talks means that though these talks are stalled, negotiations continue. harry reid and mitch mcconnell had some problems getting to a final offer, final counteroffer this afternoon. but the inclusion of vice president biden means the white house is in the loop with what minority leader mcconnell is doing. >> how much hope is really the question here, ryan? taking the cost of living essentially, the cpi off the table for social security, which was going to be a non-starter for harry reid and for the president, so i guess the republicans could sa

i think if harry reid does it, fine. let him do it. we need to think of what the country needs more than what each party does and concerned about the election on january 3rd? if nothing happens, he may have to worry about the election, john boehner. what i would advise him to do, he doesn't seek my advice, let me give you some advice. be what you want to be. do what you have to do. and democrats will support you if you do that. >> do you think at this point there's even enough time to get a deal done? realist achally. >> absolutely. there is time. now, i know we went out of session today and won't be in session technically until monday. that can change over the weekend. through emergency. so what happens to saturday and sunday? i mean, we all rather be with our families and friends but the fact is america needs this done right now. you know what's disappointed me most of all, craig? talking heads, many of them on television and some members of my own party saying, well, it won't be as bad. we'll take it up in the new congress. i think

now, to harry reid. the rounds saying that mitt romney didn't pay taxes for ten years. >> the word is out that he hasn't paid any taxes for ten years. let me him that he has paid taxes, because he hasn't. >> now reid said he got his information from a former bane investor. without any further explanation, he was awarded the maximum number of pinocchios. also u.n. ambassador susan rice has come to terms with the circumstances that led her to take her own name of of the running for secretary of state. her opening line, quite, my talking points for this evening have been provided to me and fully cleared by the intelligence community. how could this possibly go wrong? believe it or not, things took a turn for the palin later on in her speech. quote, day after day, i engage in highly substantive, highly technical negotiations with my colleagues here at the u.n. like the russians. as a matter of fact, i can see the russian mission from my house. >>> finally, did you think the holidays would come and go without

reid thinks the next 20 four hours are important? you're supposed to as investor be thinking long term. to leave this down to the last minute like this is cruel and is a distic to investors. one of the reasons you saw the tremendous drop today. you mentioned monday night being volatile. that is holiday day. it is thinly traded. with the fiscal cliff literally occurring you can bet it will be extremely volatile sunday and monday night. adam: spencer, if i were in individual stocks seems not it the time to sell them or will we see that. >> the important thing to keep in mind with stocks, one part we have to worry about is the fiscal cliff. we have taxes and spending to worry about there. but what the real issue is, in my opinion is the debt ceiling debate that is just around the corner. adam: oh, joy of joy. >> if we get some deal with the fiscal cliff which i think we will and our politicians are the worst even a blind squirrel will occasionally find a nut. they will get this done sometime by january 15th or something like that. if th

tell me, how is harry reid going to come up with something by monday?well, as you've been stressing for most of the show, correct me, this is not a budget. this is a last-minute deal that's going to have a few components and i will count them on one hand that will have a tax threshold. 250. i wouldn't be surprised if they went to him with a higher number. u.n. extension, doc fix and the umt with the sequester and that would be it. >> jimmy p., what do you think? will we have a deal on monday and is it going to be enough? >> i think we will have a deal. one big difference now than maybe a couple of weeks, three weeks ago is a lot of republicans believe that eventually they really believe that the president would cave and they would cave again just like they did in 2010 that if he's so worried about a second recession would just smear his second term and he would cave. if you saw the president today in the news conference, he did not look like a guy about to cave to me. he's not going cave. this deal will go through. >> what's it going to be. >> will we b

>> bob: reid, here are the parameters. boehner, we'll sell this. 28 or 29. >> kimberly: demonize republicans to say he would meet them halfway and number of instances. look, i'm presidential and i am showing leadership. they're intractable. they are the bad guys, i'm good guy and aloha. >> bob: he came up to $400,000 in taxes. >> greg: got to go. much more to come. "the five" will be back in a moment. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replacement. if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask one of our insurance experts about it today. hello?! we believe our customers do their

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senators reid and mcconnell will try to come to a deal. if they fail, the white house and harry reid are going to try to jam through a bill that increases taxes on rich people and extends unemployment insurance, which are the two key democratic priorities. they'll pretty much dare republicans to block it. and republicans probably won't be able to, at least not for long. here's johnny isaacson, a republican senator from georgia, over the weekend. >> if we get down to the end of this year, and the only choice we have is to save taxes going up on the middle class, then i would support that. >> last weekend, "the wall street journal" had a great piece going behind the scenes on the fiscal cliff negotiations. and in it, they quoted this exchange between speaker boehner and president obama. mr. boehner said he wanted to deal along the lines what the two men had negotiated, summer of 2011, in the fight over raising the debt ceiling. "you missed your opportunity on that," the president told him. cold. but what we know right now, what we know from

. >> reporter: jeff, democratic aides tell cbs news that senate majority leader harry reid is ready to introduce legislation that would avert the fiscal cliff, but only if he gets assurances from republican leaders that they won't try to block it. that standoff is creating some tension on capitol hill that spilled on to the senate floor today. >> the senate will come to order. >> reporter: in the normally genteel senate, leader reid unleashed a tirade today about house speaker john boehner, accusing him of running a dictatorship in the house. >> speaker boehner is not willing to negotiate. we have not heard a word from leader mcconnell. nothing is happening. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, said it's reid who hasn't reached out for weeks. >> the phone never rang. and so now here we are, five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> reporter: but talking about what? so far, reid has not introduced the scaled-down bill he was reportedly working on over the christmas holiday. sources say that bill would extend the bush-era tax cuts for

(laughter) so you've been warned, harry reid! mitch mcconnell's filibuster and he will strike back by obstructing everything you do! or let him keep the filibuster so he can obstruct everything you do! (laughter) i think the choice is clear. we'll be right back. (cheers and applause) (cheers and applause) >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight is the original voice of both yoda and cookie monster. i'll ask him if four cookie cs. please welcome frank oz. (cheers and applause) thank you, hey, nice to meet you frank oz. can i call you frank oz. >> you can. >> stephen: frank oz -- >> can i just say something? >> stephen: yes. >> my favorite part of your show bar none is when you introduce the guest and you come here and take a bow. (laughter) i love that. >> stephen: well, i've got to give these people what they want. >> it's great. (cheers and applause) >> stephen: well, that's great to hear. >> i mean it, i think it's hysterical, and you deserve it. >> stephen: thank you, i put the most thought into it. >> of course.

harry reid and the president. where's boehner? >> that's a good question, because if these sides, if president obama digs in his heels and john boehner did that to a certain extent, although he did leave the door open to working with democrats on a deal, we could see much more market reaction on monday in terms of risk to the downside at this point. >> monday is going to be a holiday shortened day. trading starts at 1:00 p.m. eastern. i wouldn't expect a whole heck of a lot of fireworks. next week remember there's less than six trading days left on the year. to me there's a lot of people with the s&p up 13.5% who are well vested in this thing not falling apart in the last few days because of shenanigans going on in washington. so you may see some window dressing. i do not expect things to fall apart. but i will tell you this, if there's any positive rhetoric and the thing moves higher, we get the s&p over 1450. the higher we go, very likely the lower we go in early january. >> how do you think we're setting up? dan makes a good po

it's up to harry reid to do what he needs to do.would suggest that's been a point of frustration. hopefully we're now seeing that get resolved. >> last word. those bills aren't going anywhere in the senate. the voters were very clear they want a balanced approach. they believe the wealthy should pay a little bit more and that middle class families should get a tax increase. that's what they voted for, i believe, in the last election. that's not what the republicans are standing up for right now. >> david, doug, gentlemen, i appreciate you both being here. and it is. it's a shame we're to this point, just a few days out and americans are worried right now about what their paychecks are going to look like the first couple of weeks of january. but thank you both so much. hopefully this gets worked out. you all have a happy new year. >> happy new year. >> about 42 minutes past the hour now. >>> want to turn to number five on our first five web stories. beyonce' is looking for co-stars in her super bowl halftime show. pepsi is running a

reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote to protect the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital lifeline of unemployment insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as those leaders allow it to come to a vote. if members of the house or senate want to vote no, they can, but we shall let everybody vote. that is the way this is supposed to work. if you can get a majority in the house and in the senate, then we should be able to pass the bill. the american people are watching what we do. their patience is already thin. this is dÉjÀ vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town you cannot get stuff done in an organized timetable. everything always has to wait until the last minute. we are at the last minute. the american people are not going to have any patients for

harry reid saying it is republicans fault and somebody from boehner's office said harry reid has to talk less and legislate more. it is comical. it is simply comical what is going on. does it surprise you? >> sadly it does not surprise me too much. the truth is this. there has to be a bargain struck and not a good way to bargain to demonize the people you'll be sitting at the table with. harry reid called a speaker john boehner a dictator. republicans have fought that, they are not innocent in this. timtime to take down the verbal warfare and cut a deal sparing the fallout of the fiscal cliff. gerri: can we get anything with any meaning before the end of the year? >> not get your hopes up on a big deal on the debt. not too many tax increases, some will be in there. avoiding the sequester, the spending cuts, that is the best thing that could happen at this point and i'm pretty optimistic person, i get up every morning thinking good things will happen but this is causing me to drink every night so i did not know if i will get there or not. gerri: you glass half-full kind of guy. i hope you

harry reid says they're headed over the cliff. it is really about senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell? >> to develop the political staring contest democrats say republicans need to move and around rego. the president arrived this morning from hawaii and so with the top democrats and republicans but still no update to report. senate majority leader harry reid said it looks like we're going over a cliff and it is up to the house. >> speaker boner shed call people back to washington today and should not have let them go. they are not here. john boner cared more about his speakership than the financial footing. >> they're now working on a fiscal clear solutions they say the majority leader should talk less and legislate more. also mitch mcconnell says the leader is happy to review with the president what he has in mind but that a majority has not put forward a plan. when they do members will review legislation to make decisions on how fast -- best to proceed. >> it takes time for the house and senate to get something done. if there

reid: mr.president, i have a first-degree amendment to the substitute which is at the desk. has the clerk reported the amendment yet? i'm sorry. the presiding officer: the clerk has reported the amendment. mr. reid: i have a first-degree amendment at the desk. it's an substitute. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: the senator from nevada, mr. reid, proposes amendment numbered 3396 to amendment number 3395. mr. reid: i ask for the yeas and nays on that amendment. the presiding officer: is there a sufficient second? there appears to be a sufficient second. the yeas and nays are ordered. mr. reid: i have a second-degree amendment and ask for it to be reported. the presiding officer: the clerk will report the amendment. the clerk: the senator from nevada, mr. reid, proposes amendment 3397 to amendment 3396. the clerk: i have a cloture motion to the substitute -- mr. reid: i have a cloture motion to the substitute. the presiding officer: the clerk will report the motion. the cl

you heard what reid just said. it seems actually that it's not happening, and yet we've got this real under way for stocks. >> well, i think there's a lot to be said for our one trader who said smarter heads will prevail, and i think a lot of investors are taking that route. as much as i love my rise above pin, i am not officially in the camp that we're going to get a solution. i think harry reid's comments sum it up. that is, there is no way that the democrats really want to talk about spending, and i know that the republicans have been light on detail as well, but if the issues facing this country are tackling the biggest part of what we spend in the form of entitlements, we are kidding ourselves that anything is going to be done in a timely faction. they are going to want to do the tax part and kick the rest, and i'll tell you what. i think a lot of conservatives will go along with the potential tax increase, but they are not going to take a promise on the rest of it, so i think it's going to get ugly. >> you kn

i agree with senate reid in 2005, that the promise that the senate majority leader now, harry reid'sare against the will of the american people and against the intent of the founders. on april 1, 2005. senator barack obama of illinois argued removing the filibuster for judges from the rules causes more partisanship. he said, quote, the american people want less partisanship in this town, but everyone in the chamber knows if the majority chooses to end the filibuster, if they choose to change the rules and put an end to democratic debate, then the fighting, the bitterness, and gridlock will get worse. senator schumer of new york joined the debate arguing may 10th, 2005 saying, quote q the the basic makeup of the senate is at state, what americans prize are at stake. the idea of bipartisanship, where you have to come together, and not just ram everything through because you have a narrow majority is at stake. the very things we treasure and love about this grand republic are at stake. senator durbin argued, quote, those who would attack and destroy the institution of the filibuster are

what does harry reid do? does he blink obama's plan to the floor or try to work with mcconnell in this 11th hour. you will have a tough vote for many house republicans. if that level is at 250 and it includes unemployment, make it so republicans may not. >> joy, do you think we have a deal? >> you know, ill'm still very dubious. but if there is a deal, it will be with a majority of democrats in the house and there's a political risk for boehner in that. >> thank you. you've been watching "hardball." we'll be back in one hour with an all-new live edition. until then, "politics nation" starts rite now. >> thanks, richard. thanks to you for tuning in. breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. fortunately, congress can prevent it from happening if they act right

but it sounds like reid doesn't want to get played here. he says he's going to only bring that bill to the floor if the house agrees to work with him on final passage. the house couldn't deliver a vote on the last republican plan so that condition seems like a deal breaker. but tom cole, the number four house republican says sometimes the real imagine ek happens in the bottom of the ninth. >> i'm going to be on an airplane tomorrow headed back. i actually think there's still a chance to get something done. and so, you know, these deals usually come together at the last moment. that's what happened in the budget bill, the debt ceiling bill. i think that's going to happen again. >> joining me from capitol hill is mike viqueira. thanks for being here. >> hey. >> you heard congressman cole there, number four house republican, deputy whip. he knows a bit about this. is he just trying to sound sort of positive? what do you take from that on the ground? >> i don't think that tom cole has the constituency, although he's known as a reasoned member a

harry reid can talk about mr. boehner. he sat over there for three years and has not passed a bill on his side of the aisle. i feel there is an imbalance in the thinking of the people of this country. if we do not get her mind straits, we're in for some deep problems. i am a conservative by nature. the culture and liberal left wing is running this country -- the ulta and liberal and left- wing is running this country. host: thank you for the call. 44% of voters think congressional republicans are to blame. 15% blame both sides equally. a lot of focus in new york. funding for hurricane sandy relief efforts totaling $60 billion. it is unlikely to be in the house. many are saying it is too expensive. "lock them up until they deal." we will continue our conversation on the fiscal cliff. damian paletta will be joining us from "the wall street journal" as negotiations resumed at 3:00 p.m. today at the white house. later, randal o'toole with the cato institute. he has a new book and will be joining us at 8:30. "washington journal

harry reid and mitch mcconnell are the key players. he sounded frustrated after not receiving a counter-offer. a key member of the leadership team offered this update. >> offeringses and discussions between and we remain hopeful that will get a breakthrough. obviously what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because the senate democrats failed to come forward with a counter offer to the proposal the republicans made last night. hopefully the discussions between the.and senator mcconnell will get us on track. >> republican aides recognize the consequences if it falls apart. everybody gets a tax increase in 48 hours. >> well, it's less than 48 hours now. i'm wonder, are the democrats fighting among themself? >> there's a battle over social security. republicans are including a new way of calculating inflation to lower payments to recipients of social security. democrats had could consider it if it's part of a $4 trillion package. now republicans say it's off the table and key democrats are hopeful senate l

>> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that would prevent milk prices from rising. >> arthel: to other stories. a judge ordering a psychiatric evaluation for a woman suspected of shoving a man off a new york public is way platform. he was arraigned last night on murder and hate crime. she confessed to pushing a m

that was harry reid.saw -- what the two of them said was what we had learned from others about the meeting that is in the next 24 hours we may learn if there's going to be a deal and whether this will bleed into 2013. it's up to senator reid and mcconnell say, it's going to be something i can sell to my caucus and it's going to be something that he can sell to his and senator reid said, look, it's not going to be perfect. that much we knew already. 24 hours, those two men trying to come up with something that will not just pass their caucuses but passed by enough in the house to avoid this fiscal cliff. so we will keep you abreast of that again. we'll hear from the president at 5:45 eastern time. that's in about 15 -- 25 minutes. >>> despite what you might think, congress is getting some work done. today senate sent president obama a bill that reauthorizes eavesdropping on communications in search of possible terrorists. in doing so, lawmakers brushed away concerns about violating privacy. >> this did not

senators reid and mcconnell talking past each other. sounds like we're not exactly close to a fiscal cliff resolution at this point. >> yeah. what does it all mean for wall street? will it be an ugly day? michael guyette from pension partners and michael farr from farr miller in washington and our very own rick santelli. michael, i'll get to you in a minute. the markets moved up and closed marginally in the red on the news the house will reconvene on sunday night. i get the feeling that all of that back and forth between senators reid and mcconnell, had that come out during market hours, the market would have reacted very differently. so far apart. i didn't hear anything in the way of compromise there. >> even before of the house meeting, marks were down 1.2%. that's noise but not really a panic. the result of the fiscal cliff here is not risk off. it's risk protation into those areas of the investable landscape. look at emerging markets, lock at europe. they are decoupling. if anything, price is still very bull ir. i would rather liste

senate majority leader harry reid, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. they are trying to come up with something that can pass the house and the senate. the president laid out a proposal earlier this evening. at the beginning of this meeting. $250,000 per year. that income would be shielded from tax increases, and now he wants an extension of unemployment insurance. that is something that essentially a nonstarter in a republican-controlled house. now he is leaving it up to the two leaders in the u.s. senate try to reach a compromise. something perhaps along the line of what is being negotiated between the speaker and the president a couple of weeks ago. perhaps a tax increase for amounts of more than $400,000 or $500,000 per year. also, senate leaders want to include something on the estate tax, according to a white house official. we'll can also be key to this is that the white house officials are also telling fox news and ed henry that it appears as though the debt ceiling is not part of that. this is a huge nonstarter for republicans in the house. the

harry reid is speaking on the floor. let's take a listen. >> because americans' taxes are approaching the wrong direction come the first of this year, americans will have less income than they have today. if we go over the cliff, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll give them 48 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences where they are around the country and we're here trying to get something done. they are not in washington, d.c. the house of representatives are not here. they couldn't even get the leadership together yesterday. they had to do it with a teleconference. republican leadership. if we go over the cliff, we'll be left with the knowledge that could have been about a single vote. mr. speaker, prior to this session starting today, the presiding officer and i had a conversation about how things have changed around here. i served in the house of representatives. there's 435 members of the

harry reid's comments that you played earlier. it does not look like the democrats are going to budge on the chain cpi. they've publicly taken a stand against it. ironically on the same day where barack obama noted that he was in favor of perhaps agreeing to chain cpi as part of a bigger deal. so from what i can tell, the chain cpi is off the table for democrats. if that's not enough for the -- if that's a must-have for the republicans, then we're not going to have a deal. >> i'm going to interrupt you, we're going to keep tracking this story together. >>> coming up next, a man you're not seeing on tv, he's playing in the background. he may be the most feared man in washington and he doesn't even hold office. >> if i went and became a tibetan monk on the top of some mountain somewhere, the american people would still, they were against tax increases long before i was born. the whole tea party thing predates me. >>> grover norquist on the fiscal cliff showdown and why politicians won't back down from signing his anti-tax pledge. so

but i know reid didn't like the agreements they had.what kind of handshake agreement would he be looking for? would be set to rule deal for him? >> first of all, this is happened in the past were leaders instead of going to some nuclear option to change the rules and an agreement was negotiated. this happened on numerous occasions. i've also had precedence -- with some precedent for the senate rejected the idea that the senate is not a continuing body. in basic time and work habits as they work work an agreement with both parties because then use the regular order and allow the opportunity for senators to extend the debate on rules change if they don't like it and if there is a vote in its 68 to whatever, then it's a much better way to resolve it. as for changes to the rules, i have not heard senate majority leader harry reid or anybody for that matter put out a specific proposal saying we are ready to give up our rights if you get rid rid of bush's supersede two bills are implemented talking filibuster. it doesn't seem like it's going

reid, mr. obama starting the warfare about taxing the rich. reid sat on the bill. why didn't he bring it up for a vote? why didn't it get fair debate? mr. reid hasn't passed a budget and we going to believe they're serious about the fiscal problems? let's go offense the cliff. >> we have two cameras outside the white house right now. that one i believe is perched on pennsylvania avenue and we have another camera which is perched facing the side entrance. those are the suvs that likely boehner, mcconnell, pelosi and reid will come out of. let's talk about the deal. what if there's a deal, craig, for, i don't know, say 4 hr $500,000 the threshold of who gets taxes and who keeps -- everybody under that number keeps their tax cuts. everyone over pays more and there's spending cuts. is that a bad deal? >> yeah. i think it is. let me tell you why. because you can't get everything out of this deal that you want and frankly, all we're doing is kicking the can down the road. you know as well as i do this does nothing to deal with the $1 trillion plus deficits we have yearly

we have a loose deadline of 3:00 that reid and mcconnell had.e you hearing as the clock ticks about where they are in negotiations? you said to me a moment ago, you are aware of a few sticking points. give us the latest. >> there are a few key sticking points. you know, it really does come down to the same thing. when you get done with the whole package, have we shifted taxes or are the wealthy getting their fair share? we get into estate tax where there's a debate about do the wealthy pay their fair share or shift it to the middle class. frankly, we have had two years of debating, running up to deadlines, putting faith and credit of the country on the line. each time, we agreed to spending cuts. now a total of $1.6 trillion in spending cuts that mainly hit the middle class, low income people, seniors and we still don't have any contribution from the wealthiest americans. that's the line in the sand for us. we know we need to go further on a lot of fronts. you have to start by everybody sacrificing and paying their fair share. >> you may be hope

>> i think reid's role is to protect the president, which i think is foolish. when boehner was trying to get the votes for the compromise bill last week, and we saw that strange business where harry reid was coming out and we knew president obama said he wasn't going to support it, then harry reid saying we're not going to take this bill up. it wasn't even going to get president obama. the only thing i can see is that harry reid is trying to protect the president, which if you look through history, parties protecting their president in a second term usually pay a very heavy price in second admit terms. i don't think -- midterms. i don't think this is be different harry reid protects him from hard decisions. >> got leave it there. take care. >> chris wallace will be here for more on the fiscal cliff and we'll hear from two key senators. >> a woman falls into freezing water. we'll show you who jumps in to save her just in the nick of time. >> hard to say whether everyone would do this. will the holidays be a nightmare for you? >> how new technology is helping peo

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it's more than senator harry reid has done on behalf of the senate democrats. the senate democrats haven't proposed a budget. and unless everyone puts a budget on the table there can't be a discussion. senator harry reid has a pocket veto on the budget. >> and that's not within the law. the law says the congress has to pass a budget every year, the senate has to pass a budget but harry reid has chosen not to bring a budget year after year after year. he's not committed to dealing with the major problem of the country, the spending. >> and it's sort of interesting. nevada re-election him, that's their choice but the rest of the country is held hostage. people in my home state of wisconsin, if they don't like harry reid has majority leader there's nothing they can do. they can put pressure on their senators, but for the most part senator harry reid is in a very powerful position. >> i think he's taking orders from president obama. this is time for the president of the united states to lead. there's only one person who has the pen who can sign into law the law pre

we understand that harry reid is huddled with president obama.entally, john boehner we're told is still in town, but you're right. i'm also told that he has not spoken with the president today. unclear where we go from here. you've got to believe, michael, that the only plausible scenario left at this point is to go over the cliff, rates rise on everybody very temporarily. the congress comes back, it's then a vote to cut rates for 98% of americans instead of allow them to rise for 2% as plan "b" would have been 1% actually, and that makes it a lot easier for everybody to palate, but nothing is guaranteed right now. it's one big hot mess at this point, michael. >> look, mike, if speaker boehner isn't keeping in touch with the white house, are democratic leaders pelosi at least involved as well? you have mentioned harry reid is there. what about pelosi coordinating with those two guys? >> nancy pelosi to a certain extent, her role is minimized in this thing. if there is a deal, the president will call the democratic leadership in the house and sena