broadband initiative executive directer, he previously served as chief of staff to former chairman reid hunt. our guest reporter, amy schatz of "the wall street journal." >> host: i don't want to beat a dead horse, but one of the reasons why open access became such an issue is because of the burkman study which the fcc asked for, and you say there's no support on the hill, but there was arguably not that much support on some parts of the hill for net neutrality either. >> guest: i completely disagree. >> host: i think it depends on the party how much support there was for net neutrality, but when you're talking about competition issues like this, it sounds like your basically saying from your perspective open access is not ab issue -- an issue, and that's sort of off the table now. >> guest: no, that's not what i said, and let me say we did ask for the burkman study, and we gave them complete and totally editorial freedom in doing it. we simply asked for, as we said when we announced it publicly, we'd like a review of all -- basically a literature of everything that's gone before. we thought