jane: for more, i spoke a short time ago to reid wilson, national correspondent with "the hill." fest, that is an -- i started by asking why we are not seeing more join jeff flake and bob corker in their criticism. reid: the republican party has control in washington, d.c., and they have an agenda they want to get through. none of their agenda has moved to even a debate phase. the health care repeal has failed. tax reform is getting off to a rocky start with the president and congressional republicans apparently on different pages on a number of key aspects. something like the infrastructure bill is not even in the conversation right now. republicans need a working relationship with the president. they may not have one now, but they will not be the ones to make it worse. jane: i think what is interesting about all this, though, is that jeff flake not that long ago was the cool conservative of the party. how has he fallen from grace so quickly? reid: the simple answer is he picked a fight with donald trump. jeff flake got to washington as the first of a new wave of really fiscally

reid wilson.or takingnk my call. i just want to point out the donald trump and the of people voting own, economic completely -- news. something that is from reality.ent thank you. guest: well, we're in the same news is, but fox i won't give them all the credit know, but the fact is there are people who vote against their economic interests sides.h you know, there are a lot of millionaires who would benefit rom big tax cuts and vote democratic and a lot of people who receive benefits from the voted ble care act, who republican. what was interesting to see in his series, though, is that it appears that the culture wars are alive and well. year, i think as little is because we've been in economic recovery for seven concernedple are less with the economy than they were 2012 or 2014, there was a sense things had gotten better, now we get to fight other things, the things we fought about were things then weredate trump and clinton talking about. the immigration system, what it to be an american, where o

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. >> back with us kasie hunt and reid wilson. casey, we have been here before. i remember a lot of democrats felt confident. it was going to motivate something. it didn't. do you sense something different ton hill with this? >> from a legislative perspective i have to tell you i don't there have been some republicans particularly in suburban districts that say we need a legislative fix. i think there's an understanding from those republicans that any prolonged debate or attempts at legislation would pretty quickly get buried, get twisted, become essentially a nonstarter. no one is coming out and saying that directly. there's a different solution here that wouldn't require an act of congress. that's something i see there being something to do. they had to say this is not something that modifies a gun in a way that makes the gun legal. it zrunt mechanical parts. it doesn't effect how the gun shoots. we know that it does although it is simply using the way your finger interacts with the trigger and the recoil to do that. they say hey, why don't you revisit this iss

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. >> so, paul, i want to ask you, because we had the congresswoman, fredrica wilson joining joy reid. they discussed, as john was pointing out there the origin and tale of this. she is a family friend of the johnsons. she happened to be in the vehicle and nearby this family when they took a call on speaker phone. the widow taking this call. now, kelly has used the podium and the press room to stage this attack against the congresswoman and went after her pretty viciously. now, she wants an apology for misleading people about her. this is what she asked for. listen. >> the character assassination that he went through to call me out of my name an empty barrel and all the work that i have done in this community, not only does he owe me an apology, he owes an apology to the american people, because when he lied on me, he lied to them. >> so, paul, here it is on the 19th of october, a thursday that we have john kelly coming out and using this moment to try to give cover to the president but provides a fish tale about the congresswoman that he claims he was an eyewitness to. he admonished t

another family member who heard the call said wilson described it accurately. chip reid is at the white house this morning. >> reporter: good morning. white house chief of staff john kelly condemned congresswoman wilson for politicizing president trump's call to the widow of a fallen soldier. but president trump himself had earlier politicized the situation when he falsely suggested that other presidents had not made similar calls. kelly tried to clean up the mess. >> the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die in the battlefield, i just thought that might be sacred. >> reporter: during an emotional appearance in the white house briefing room, kelly said he was stunned by the criticism of president trump's condolence call. >> the only thing i could do to collect my thoughts was to go walk among the finest men and women on this earth. you can always find them. they're in arlington national cemetery. went over there for an hour and a half. walked among the stones. some of whom i put there. because they were doing what i told them to do when they were killed. >>

a fact check reviewed representative wilson's entire speech and determined kelly got it wrong. tonight, msnbc's joy reid aired the entire speech so everyone could see all the facts and the entire address themselves. we have reviewed it here, as well. the video shows wilson spending most of her time praising fbi agents who were killed on duty and crediting republican speaker boehner by name for their team work in a vote on legislation, not money, for naming a fbi building after two agents. >> i went to the speaker, speaker boehner, and i said, mr. speaker, i need your help. the fbi needs your help. and our country needs your help. and we have no time to waste. he went into attack mode and then in two days pulled it out of committee, brought it to the floor for a vote. >> now, let me be as fair and precise as possible. it could be that john kelly innocently misremembered this. and today's tension could have been tamped down with any kind of acknowledgment of what the video shows. if you had a court case built on this allegation against representative wilson and this video emerged, that case would get toss

reid is at the white house. >> i was stunned. >> reporter: white house chief of staff john kelly attacked florida congresswoman frederica wilson yesterday after she criticized president trump for what she said was an insensitive condolence call to the widow of sergeant la david johnson, who was killed in action in niger. kelly called her an empty bar expel claimed she talked only about herself when he saw her at a 2015 dedication of an f.b.i. building in florida. >> she just called up president obama and on that phone call, she gave the money, the $20 million to build the building, and she sat down. and we were stunned. >> reporter: wilson responded today. >> i was not even in congress in 2009 when the money for the building was secured. so that's a lie. how dare he. >> reporter: willisob's version appears to be supported by video of the speech posted today by "florida sun sentinel". wilson did that day tell about leading the effort to get the building named for two f.b.i. agents who had been killed in the line of duty. >> we're going to get this done! >> reporter: but she spent the bulk of that speech praising the two fallen

he insisted she gave a total lie on content but another family member said wilson describes it accurately. chib read chip reidte house this morning. good morning. >> good morning. he condemned him but president trump himself had earlier politicized the situation when he when he falsely suggest thad some presidents had not made similar calls. kelly tried to clean up the mess. >> the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battlefield, i just thought that might be sacred. >> during an emotional period kelly said he was stunned by the criticism of president trump's condolence call. >> the only thing i could do to collect my thoughts was to go and walk among the finest men and women on this earth and you can always find them, because they're in arlington national cemetery. i went over there for anhalf. walk aid among the stones. some of them were put there because they were doing what i told them do when they were killed. president trump asked the chief of staff who to say when the four were killed. >> i said sir, there's nothing you can do to lighten the burden of these families. >> kellie tal

kelly accused wilson of grandstanding during a dedication ceremony for an fbi building in miami.a video of her speech does not support tthe charge.chip reid: have you seen the speech?sanders: i have.white house press secretary sarah sanders blasted the media for questioning the word of a high=ranking general.if you want to get into a debate with a four-star marine general, i think that is something highly inappropriate.wilson says she has lots of questions about death sergeant johnson ... whose body was found a mile away from the scene of the ambushi want to know why he was separated from the rest of the soldiers. why did it take 48 hours for them to find him. was he still alive. was he kidnapped. what's going ona military investigation is underway, but what is known is disturbing.the troops had been told it was unlikely there would be opposition in the area near the border with mali now, the u-s believes 50 isis fighters attacked them with machine guns and rocket- propelled grenades .the americans had only their rifles.republican senator john mccain raised questions about the incidenttoday he met privately with defense secretary james ma

kelly accused wilson of grandstanding during a dedication ceremony for an fbi building in miami.a video of her speech does not support tthe charge.chip reid the speech?sanders: i have.white house press secretary sarah sanders blasted the media for questioning the word of a high=ranking general.if you want to get into a debate with a four-star marine general, i think that is something highly inappropriate.wilson says she has lots of questions about death sergeant johnson ... whose body was found a mile away from the scene of the ambushi want to know why he was separated from the rest of the soldiers. why did it take 48 hours for them to find him. was he still alive. was he kidnapped. what's going ona military investigation is underway, but what is known is disturbing.the troops had been told it was unlikely there would be opposition in the area near the border with mali now, the u-s believes 50 isis fighters attacked them with machine guns and rocket- propelled grenades .the americans had only their rifles.republican senator john mccain raised questions about the incidenttoday he met privately with defense secretary james mattis,

kelly accused wilson of grandstanding during a dedication ceremony for an fbi building in miami.a video of her speech does not support tthe charge.chip reidn the speech?sanders: i have.white house press secretary sarah sanders blasted the media for questioning the word of a high=ranking general.if you want to get into a debate with a four-star marine general, i think that is something highly inappropriate.wilson says she has lots of questions about death sergeant johnson ... whose body was found a mile away from the scene of the ambushi want to know why he was separated from the rest of the soldiers. why did it take 48 hours for them to find him. was he still alive. was he kidnapped. what's going ona military investigation is underway, but what is known is disturbing.the troops had been told it was unlikely there would be opposition in the area near the border with mali now, the u-s believes 50 isis fighters attacked them with machine guns and rocket- propelled grenades .the americans had only their rifles.republican senator john mccain raised questions about the incidenttoday he met privately with defense secretary james mattis,

reid in for chris hays. today, the white house is defending chief of staff john kelly's smear made yesterday from the white house podium against the democratic congresswoman from florida, fredricka wilson. who accused the president of being disrespectful. knew la david since a child and knows johnson's brothers and uncle who went to the school when a principal. they drove to the airport to claim the body of sergeant johnson. one of the four u.s. soldiers who were killed in an ambush in niger two weeks ago and that's why she was with johnson's family when they took the call from president donald trump on a speakerphone. wilson's answer who asked her how the call went led to two days of trump attacks on twitter and on camera. but yesterday's appearance by trump's chief of staff took it to a new level. kelly himself a gold star father went before the white house press corps to defend the phone call and added this, completely unrelated story about a prior encounter with the congresswoman. >> on october, april, rather, of 2015, on active duty and went to the dedication of the new fbi field office in miami. and dedicated to two men who were killed in a fire fight in miami against drug traffi

congresswoman frederica wilson demanding a chief of staff from john kelly for his handling of the feud between her and president trump. here's what she just told my colleague joy reid this morning. >> he was a puppet of the president and what he was trying to do was divert the attention away from the president on to me. and he basically just lied on me. he does owe the american people an apology for lying on one of their congresswoman. >>> also new reaction today this from gold star father on how general kelly should have handled the matter. >> instead of advising the president that restrained and dignity is the call of the moment, former general kelly indulged in defending behavior of the president and made the situation even worse. our political leaders elected by the people are deserving of equal dignity and equal respect instead of being aligned. >> kelly with a good sunday to you. you have the president who is not letting this controversy go, at least this morning he didn't. so, what's he saying? >> well, alex, we said all week that we thought perhaps this event or that event would wind the controversy down. and especially out of respect for the four service m

wilson was elected to congress. the discrepancy in kelly's remark led to a contentious exchange on friday between chip reid and sarahanders. >> have you seen this speech? >> i have. >> most of us are praising the fbi agents and when she was talking about what she did in congress, she was not talking about getting security of $20 million. she was talking about naming the billin building. >> that was the bulk of the speech. she had quite a few comments that were not apart of the video that were witnessed by many people there. >> what general kelly referenced yesterday. >> tell us specifically. >> there is a lot of grand standing and he was stunned that he takes the opportunity to make it about herself. >> he addressed its thoroughly yesterday. >> i am talking about the money. before she came into congress. >> if you want to get in the debate of the four star general. >> that would be great if he can come out here. >> wilson up the antiagainst the trump administration. the white house itself is full of white supremacistsupremacist. >>> we turn to the washington post amber phillips. she writes about politics of the poli

kelly accused wilson of grandstanding during a dedication ceremony for an fbi building in miami.a video of her speech does not support tthe charge.chip reid: have you seen the speech?sanders: i have.white house press secretary sarah sanders blasted the media for questioning the word of a high=ranking general.if you want to get into a debate with a four-star marine general, i think that is something highly inappropriate.wilson says she has lots of questions about death sergeant johnson ... whose body was found a mile away from the scene of the ambushi want to know why he was separated from the rest of the soldiers. why did it take 48 hours for them to find him. was he still alive. was he kidnapped. what's going ona military investigation is underway, but what is known is disturbing.the troops had been told it was unlikely there would be opposition in the area near the border with mali now, the u-s believes 50 isis fighters attacked them with machine guns and rocket- propelled grenades .the americans had only their rifles.republican senator john mccain raised questions about the incidenttoday he met privately with defense secretary james ma

wilson was elected to congress. the discrepancy in kelly's remarks led to a contentious exchange on friday between cbs news correspondent chip reidnd white house press secretary sarah sanders. >> in fact, have you seen the speech? >> i have. >> then you know most of it was her infusively praising these fbi agents, and when she talked about what she did in congress, she was not talking about getting security of $20 million. she was talking about naming the building. >> she was always talking about -- >> which she then went on to infusively praise and that was the bulk of the speech. >> she also mention that and had quite a few comments that weren't part of that speech and video that were always witnessed by other people. >> like what? >> what general kelly referenced yesterday. >> tell us specifically. >> exactly what he said. there was a lot of grandstanding. he was stunned she had taken the opportunity to make it about herself. >> can he come out here and talk to us about that at some point? >> i think he spoke about it pretty thoroughly yesterday. >> he was wrong. >> if you want to go after general kelly, that's up to you. >> s

what joy reid did present are sociological factors that say he may be racist. that's to the nor me to judge. we are talking about fredericka wilsonh the family. the family themselves said as though they felt the president's comments were insensitive. a true leader, nibble who makes the mistake, whether it was his intent or not, they would simply say that is my apology. that was not my intent. that would have ended this whole conversation. it family is a gold star family. they are grieving. and if a family says i did not like what you said or i felt offended by it, the way that we can circumvent all of this and move forward is for the president to simply say that was not my intent and i apologize and that's what should have been done here. pete: well, the family indeed has the right to their opinion on this for sure. jim, last word on how the congresswoman reacted? >> i think in this case she could have been the one know what she said. >> she is not the president. >> she was in the car and she is the one who then went on television saying this was wrong and incentive. >> trump went on television and said other presidents did this.