talks rile lay dunlap and -- thank you, reilly dunlap. the books book "dark money" has gotten a lot of attention. it focuses on how the koch brothers specifically use the caverns for subterranean dark money to mess around in our politics, following you p on the use of conservative think tanks. we have an early, i guess you call it a strategize of this effort quoted as saying it would be necessary to use ambiguous and misleading names, obscure the true agenda, and conceal the means of control. that's the background. a understand that wholevestment a think tank is described this way. in the 1970's with if i understanding from a handful of hugely wealthy donors as well as some major corporate support, a whole new form of, quote, think tank, close quote, emerged. that was morgan engaged in selling predetermined ideology to politicians and the public than undertaking scholarly research. engaged in selling predetermined ideology to politicians and the public. to use her phrase, it was the think tank as guised political weapon. that is part of w