the merits in the case, there is a narrower grounds which were basically judged by reinhard. california created a separate institution of domestic partnership. the argument would be that the state that has done that has essentially disclaims any meaningful state interest in continuing to hold the "m" word for same-sex couples. there is no real meaningful distinction. >> the question of whether the other 35 states have to. the other one would be taking california and in ticket back. >> what did he say? >> he wove them together. >> they're always driven by coherent. >> interestingly, the defenders of doma and prop a hero how the world has changed since doma was passed. and how, regardless of what power the gays and lesbians had in 1996, they surely have more power now. that argument is in boats at the conclusion of the reply brief of chuck cooper representing prop. 8. what kind of impact do you think that clear change in the political world is likely to be had? >> it makes manifest that rather than imposing on the country another roe versus wade, this is a matter that is being