we also have reinhard cluse. this is one of those release moments.t is a business that came from the phoenix of the fire. we are back into the private markets. the dutch must be relieved. the stock up this morning. >> the bigs financial deal. that's the biggest financial deal. and the next year, the government had to bail them out. the biggest banking ipo since the financial crisis. the stock is done pretty well. it is up 3% in the market where they euro stocks market is down. the government must be heaving a sigh of relief. one of the key issues for the government was they did not want then cost too much because they would be accused of putting too much money on the paper, write? francine: this is great. this is a great financial crisis story. this is closing a chapter because it was directly linked to the financial crisis. ruth: if you can draw from this. also investors, this is not a market where investors are putting money on the table for everything. market, therepo have been a few deals that have not done well here they are going to look it abn