the view of the ninth circuit, judge reinhardt, is they cannot take them off. i will do what i want, they cannot take them all. in another case, it had to do with securities law. no dissent. the question was there was -- weather was there was loss causation and transaction causation. that means you're fraud caused it to end into the trends that -- entry into the transaction. i would not have sold you insurance if you tell me honestly you're a heavy smoker, but then you get hit by a boss. loss causation shows about the fraud caused the loss. you're smoking did not cause you to get hit by the boss. b -- bus. i realize there are these emotional cases out there. in general, i think the court looks at the law, which is why you get cases that are seven- one, seven-two, nine-zero, and once and awhile, it breaks down to ideological grounds. pre-emption cases -- chamber of commerce clause, the business case in arizona where the court tells us it is constitutional for arizona to take away the licenses of a business that knowingly hired any illegal alien. i think that was