. >> professor reisch, you're very >> let's think about the logic for a second. they're thinking about voting for raising taxes, at least on folks over a million, which they say they don't want to do. but they're going to reject spending cuts that they say they do want to do. that defies logic. there is no explanation for that. >> professor reisch, you're very good with logic, can you please help the president and me figure out the logic of this? >> there is no logic here, there is a tactical approach that will frankly fail, because boehner is not going to get republicans or democrats for this. we'll get closer and closer to the fiscal cliff. the only alternative out there is proposed by the president. and actually, i think going over the cliff is probably better. >> governor dean, the white house has done what it needs to do on this, issued a veto threat. they said if the president were presented with the house amendment, he would veto this legislation. so now, governor dean, john boehner is asking his members to vote on something that a president has said he wo