if i can, anderson, i'd like to ask secretary reisch, you were the united states secretary of labor for four years. did you release your tax returns to cnn and "the new york times" and the wider world? >> i released my tax returns, of course. in fact, i released my tax returns, everybody member of the cabinet and every president and vice president is not only required to release their tax returns but they're also required to have audit. this is important. they're required to have an audit. they choose to release the tax returns even though they have an audit. and that's what's so the weird about donald trump. i mean. >> he's asking if you released them in public or released them publicly. >> frankly, i don't remember. but why i wasn't president. >> my point. my point. what you did, mr. secretary, i'm taking a wild guess is release them to a senate committee. they were not released to the public. right? >> i don't understand what you're talking about. we have a president. >> you're a member of the president's cabinet. >> for 40 years, presidentses have released their tax returns to the p