has been 5 years wh is the unemployment rate going under 7%, we're in summer of recovery 5.0 now, remberaid he will f it in his recovery summer, we've been through 5 now, we're going nowhere. charles: katie. david, debt -- >> i think we've done a good job over last 4 years considering. charles: are you really happy now. >> consider being had worst financial crisis. charles: but you understand. -- bush, bush, blame bush. charles: you know that basic economics further barring reaction goes, better recovery should be this one stretched and when w comeback, this is broken all the rules of logic, and all of the rules of economicking largely because of polits even ben bernankin tells us that fisl policies are hurting our economy. lou: one of fiscal eonomy is too were focus on deficit reduction, a lot of economists believe, when you cut deficit you often put people out of work are we see it with sequestration, right now, unemployment coul could be if wd nott fire the government workers here is thing, most americans have said, i poll after poll that reducing unemployment is more important than c