but i think -- you probably all know -- architecture is not a highly remuepb rative profissions. it attracts a lot of people and therefore the pressure is down. but i can answer your question. you start out as a professional architect and my kid paid $40,000 a year. that's about normal. >> that's not right out of school. >> no, not right out of school, man, i want that job. the thing is, then it goes up. the other thing about architecture it takes a long time to learn. it's not uncommon to hear about an architect who starts his firm at age 50 or 55. there are a lot of different aspects to this profession that takes many learns to learn how to do. so limbing from 40 up to -- i real sently saw some statistics that a firm, at the top end he's getting $300,000 a year. this is relatively rare fieed air for architects and there was national. there is, as you can tell, a broad spoken here. i'll give you another actoid if you want. an architect rents spaces and computers and every guy who is working on a computer is working on $5-- between his salary and what he has to bill out at is abo