something of that in practice is renata right. joliet, object of great political difficulty at 1st as part of the earlier are europe correspondent, pizza. oliver told us more about the meeting between the german ukrainian leaders and brought down the key issues at stake. always starts off with what was really the elephant in the room between the 2, the nod stream to gas pipeline that runs between russia and germany. it hasn't opened yet, doesn't look like it's going to open anytime soon. both the, the ukranian president said the t and the german chancellor had different views on the president lindsey saying that you didn't would crane views it as a political weapon. you, prior to that we have heard very little from all our shows about the stream to pipeline that isn't much needed here in germany. the has been a lot of pressure on the chancellor over that particular infrastructure project, staying with president lensky. he was also ask the question about his country's ambitions to join nato and whether they were still at the forefront of what they intended to be doing. he said that not