i was with my older sister renato who was aged nine so if you think of how small a five—year—old is,s a traumatic journey and how small a five—year—old is, it was a traumaticjourney and an extraordinary change to a new country, new family, new food, new everything. and i think my parents really did a very brave thing because they sent us basically into the arms of strangers. they knew the names of the people who had agreed to foster us and waved us goodbye, thinking never to see us again. and at five, were you in any way able to understand the grave danger that you were in as a little girl — your father wasjewish, of course — a little girl under nazi occupation? i don't think so. i think one had seen the gradual development of anti—semitism so that my sister had had stones thrown at her, my father had lost his job, all these various things one was conscious of. and we became — since he didn't have any work — quite short of money and it became obvious that the family was in problems, but i thinkjews across europe knew that to remain in nazi europe really was catastrophe. there's so mu