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and renato mariotti, former federal prosecutor and legal affairs columnist for politico magazine. my brain trust tonight. i appreciate you all being here. senator jones, i want to go to your first because this is actually a big deal if it happens. but i want to take a step back and say "if" is the operative word here. the fact you now had trump invited to speak before the grand jury, per the times, it says something that isn't good for trump. please explain. >> well, you know, joy, i'm going to take a different approach. what it clearly says is this investigation is nearing the end. one way or another. it clearly is coming to an end. that's kind of the last step. i think in most cases, a lot of cases you would think it would be unusual that you invite somebody and then not charge. however, we really don't know what's going on in the grand jury. michael cohen has been there. you have to admit, this has been a crazy matter. the president's lawyer has gone to jail, stormy daniels' lawyer has gone to jail. it is a sordid chapter in american history. we really don't know, but it doesn'

renato mariotti, former federa prosecutor and legal affairs correspondent for politico and david enrich at th new york times, where he is th business and investigation editor he is also the author of servants of the dam, giant law firms, all trump and the corruption of justice. all right, david, let's star with the silicon valley bank situation and how we got here. because your specialty i banks. and i want to talk about one bank in particular - goldman sachs. goldman sachs was the advise to silicon valley bank we know that they were in th hole with these treasuries tha they bought a year and a hal ago. goldman sachs was thei advisor. it has now been reported tha goldman bought a huge amount o securities from them when they were at their weakest moment goldman may have made hundreds of millions of dollars whe they sold out of that position they then advised the client we saw the ceo of silico valley bank get on a conferenc call, basically say to all o their depositors, we will be okay as long as you don't pull your money out, which then automatically triggers basically, all of thos depo

joining me now to discuss this is former federal prosecutor renato mariotti. renato thank you so much for joining me a fascinating case. uh and, of course, a potentially looming trial. we saw rupert murdoch. they're calling trump's election lies pretty much a crime in his words, even as fox news continued to push those lies and then the fox news chief, suzanne scott, warning that fact checking those lies has to stop now. so how damaging are these latest messages to fox's case? very damaging. i have to say when i saw some of the prior messages, i was wondering why fox news and not try to settle this case, and i'm really still flomax by that, because they're facing very substantial damages here. the you know this is the rare case, usually defamation lawsuit is very difficult to make out. because you have to prove that the defendant knew that what they were paddling was false or had a reckless disregard for the truth. that really seems like they have the proof on that here. so we do have this potential trial coming up. fox does have a history of settling lawsuits

renato mariotti. thanks so much for your time. we appreciate it. thank you. of course, still ahead president biden authorizing an airstrike in syria after a suspected iranian affiliated drone kills a u. s contractor and wounds five american troops will have the latest from the pentagon next. now up to 40% off. you found the diamond store our most powerful spot and stain clean. the bissell little green pet pro combines superior section and versatility to keep carpets and upholstery fresh all year long live in the moment. the mess for adults with generalized myasthenia gravis. who are positive for acetylcholine receptor antibodies. it may feel like the world is moving without you, but the picture is changing with goat in a clinical trial participants achieved improved daily abilities added to their current treatment. and they've guard helped clinical trial participants achieve reduced muscle weakness. they've got may increase the risk of infection. clinical study the most common infections, urinary tract and respiratory tract infections. tell your doctor if you

president is dealing with several other federal and state investigations from our federal prosecutor, renato mariotti joins us great to see renato. he's also the host of the complicated podcast, which i think is a fitting title for our times. renato what seems to be the most pressing legal issue for team trump right now. i mean, if you listen to him last night, it sounds like he's worried about everything. well he should be worried about everything. but i think in gym, the most worrisome thing should be the jack smith's investigations, particularly the mar a lago investigation. you know, there was just a court order, you know, invoking the crime fraud exception to pierce attorney client privilege between former president trump and attorney corcoran every corcoran very, very problematic , unusual and i should be concerning to any quiet when you when you have your attorneys words potentially not only used against you, but you have a federal judge saying there's enough evidence to suggest and it leads proved by 51% essentially that you engaged in a crime with that person. renato republican house committ

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we turn now to two former federal prosecutors, renato mariotti and jessica roth.hank you both for being with us. i think it is fair to say we were not expecting an indictment today. a grand jury conducts its work in secret, but we knew the manhattan grand jury works on monday and wednesday and there was reporting the jury was planning to take off much of april for a preplanned break. walk us through how this jury would have arrived at an indictment today. >> we don't know if they voted on it today or on another day and it had remained under seal and it still does as we sit here. one of the extraordinary things about a grand jury is that it does its work in secrecy. we don't know one they voted on it precisely. presumably it was when they presented the last witnesses to shore up the testimony of mr. cohen and his credibility presumably after witness had been called to was requested by former president trump to impugn his credibility. so sometime between when that happened and today, the grand jury indicted. amna: we have to underscore the unprecedentedature of this

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o discuss form federal prosecute renato mariotti host of the "it's complicated" podcast. good to have you on. >> pleasure to be here. >> questions of course about cohen's role in this, his own background, but he did by the way go to jail, he was convicted here. tell us what you think about, one, the seriously of these potential charges, misdemeanor or felony, and how far you think this goes. >> well, first of all, i really doubt that the manhattan da's office has gotten this far and is inviting the former president to the grand jury if they are not planning on charging him. i do think it's likely the charges are going to issue. i do agree with paula's analysis that these are going to be difficult charges to make. of the array of potential charges that trump is facing i agree that these are probably the most difficult to prove, however, nonetheless, it adds a degree of difficulty for trump's defense team because of course they're facing kind of a tight front war. in other words, just because these are easier charges to beat than, let's say, what's going -- you know, the ch

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joining us now to discuss we have renato mariotti. he is a former federal prosecutor, and we have ambassador norm eisen. he was special counsel to the house judiciary committee in trump's first impeachment trial. renato to you first here in this classified documents case you have the doj convincing a federal judge that trump used his own attorney evan corcoran in the furtherance of a crime. how significant is that? it is absolutely remarkable, brianna. yeah i have been practicing criminal law for around 20 years or so. and i have never seen a prosecutor invoke the crime fraud exception to the attorney client privilege, much less obtain a ruling from a federal judge, and this is not the first time that that has happened to former president trump very significant. and here you have an attorney who potentially has his own liability. this is an attorney that allegedly caused false statements to be made to the justice department. that is a federal crime. and so i could see reasons why that attorney may cooperate with the justice department

jacqueline alemany and forme federal prosecutor a political legal affairs columnist, renat mariotti welcome to you both, renatoyou listening to th conversation i had with michae cohen just now and if so, your thoughts on his statements and he's going to be a rebutta witness potentially tomorrow i the new york - the manhattan da's case? >> i think it's very interesting. and suggested maybe the lock somebody in as a witness who i not a person of th government's team. so to speak. a lot of times, you are puttin out witnesses before the grand jury that are essentially just building your case occasionally, you'll put a witness in who somebody yo think it's gonna go south. you want to lock in thei testimony so you know thei story in advance let's say the bank robbers girlfriend, that sort of thing in this, case perhaps or somebody they're locking and who said something that wa helpful to the defense and the want to -- show the other side of the grand jury >> they do this so that they have an opportunity for michae cohen to rebut it. it will have to appear and rebut it you citizen to be down there o lease on standby