lynne sweet is standing by with us and ed rendell. lot of people saw the delay in expanding this violence against women act and the original bill had gone through without opposition and we saw it reinstated twice in the past and it lapsed in 2011 and many saw this as a part of the war on women that progressived talks so much about. >> absolutely, tamron. one of the things the white house did this morning is have a lot of women's groups in meetings and roundtables to discuss the elements of the act and these are the groups who championed this so much. also, part of the audience, when's interesting here is that the -- white house really built an audience for this bill signing. this is not just having a few people around with a few pens. they wanted this to pay tribute to the women's groups who fought for years to get this passed. >> governor rendell, we know that women played a huge fact forthis this election, turning out and actually being i guess if you will turned off by some of the words and actions of the gop cannot dates and elect

governor rendell has it right. we got killed in 2012 because of our inability to reach hispanics

>> well governor rendell is one of the poster children for what i think is right about politics. one of the best governors in american history. i think, another one was tom ridge. and the two things that they have in common is one, they were both governors of pennsylvania. and, two, they both had the fortitude to not feel that they needed to buy in to a central liturgy of either the democratic party or the republican party. they did what they thought was right for themselves, moreover, for the people of their state. they need people like governor rendell and ridge who have the guts to say, you know what, i don't care about what they say about me at cpac or morph on.org. this is the right thing to do. >> go ahead. >> interestingly, i agree. but seriously -- >> the implements, right? >> yeah. seriously, i think that's a very good point. i think that's crucial for the republican party to understand. i think republicans had people like that. they were called dick luger and mike castle. and they had terrific people who didn't buy into a orthodoxy. the good thing about being a governor

invest in our infrastructure. >> you'll always be the mayor of philadelphia to me, governor rendell.>> thanks for your time. greg, thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> check this out. a d plus is not good enough for us in this country. thanks. >> you bet. >>> in other transportation news we've been telling you all hour that president obama is expected to leave tel aviv at any moment. well, we just learned the delay on the president's departure is that he's meeting with israeli prime minister netanyahu one more time before the short departure ceremony happens. so that's why. our gaggle will be here next. and before that, a programming note for you. tonight at 9:00 p.m. make sure to catch the msnbc documentary "hubris, selling the iraq war" hosted by msnbc's own rachel maddow. details how faulty intelligence paved the way for war. but first, it's the white house soup of the day. ribollita. chances of me saying that right almost zero. chances of me knowing what's in it less than zero. and don't forget to check out our website. rundown.msnbc.com. we will be right back. [ female announc

jeb bush has a mighty hill to climb. >> governor rendell, your take? think jeb bush will be, of course, somewhat hammered by the bush name. but i think he'll be considered on his own merits. he's a problem solver, someone who has shown the ability to work both sides. and i think a little less confrontational than governor christie. i think over the long run he might prove to be a very attractive candidate. but, again, you can't avoid making the tough decisions. on his immigration plan, he ducked the path to citizenship and that's key. there aren't going to be democratic votes granting immigration bill without a clear path to citizenship. so we have to figure out what's workable, what we give. we do border security, strong in return for a reasonable path to citizenship. that's the type of leadership that jeb bush is capable of. i think in the end he'll be considered on his own merits. >> jeb, quickly, it seems like he's playing catchup because the book was going to the printer before the republican party moved so fast on their immigration thoughts. so i

governor rendell, i read what you had to say about this.'m just wondering, why would a political party believe a new pr strategy would cover up for its policies? >> it makes no sense at all. first of all, their policies are bankrupt. they're the exact same, and they haven't changed their policies a bit, chris. you see republican state legislators pushing virulent antiabortion bills that are clearly unconstitutional, clearly punitive to women. no exceptions for incest and rape. things that voters rejected the last time dramatically. they're still -- they don't get it about income inequality in this country. they're still pushing for budgets that give huge tax breaks to the rich and stick it to poor people. people who are vulnerable. they haven't changed their policies a bit. no packaging, no marketing, can change that. and then they've got the additional problem of the cpac convention where you've got the wacko factor at work, every independent voter, moderate republican, conservative democrat, who looks at that sideshow, and it was a sidesh

governor rendell. how effective do you think go mayor bloomberg and his media blitz can be? >> wayne lapierre may not know much, but he knows about insanity. >> that he does. >> that's number one. number two, he says the people don't want mike bloomberg in their living rhoades. those ads don't have mike bloomberg's name on them. those ads are very effective and they're striking a responsible chord. because that's what people believe. the question is can that belief be translated into pressure put on congressmen and senators. and i believe it can. because this is one area where i mean i'm stunned when the gop, all eight of their senators voted against universal background checks, i was absolutely stunned. this is party that's trying to reshape their image and they unanimously voted against something supported by 85% of the american people? >> that actually is one of the things i want to focus on. we began this odyssey together in so far as post newtown and the question about whether or not we were going to see some measurable progress here. some kind of gun safety reform. and

joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. thank you for joining me tonight. >> my pleasure, reverend. >> let me ask you, governor, you know firsthand that infrastructure means jobs. why do republicans refuse to get it? >> well, i think more and more republicans are getting it and if they can put politics aside and care about job creation, they will approve the president's plan. i testified at the first hearing of the new budget chairman blue shuster and testified for 2 1/2 hours. most of the republicans, even guys who said they were part of the tea party, said that we need to spend more money on the infrastructure. i'm hopeful that the agenda will work. reverend, it does work. pennsylvania got a million dollars for roads and wrijs in the original stimulus. we tracked every job it created. it created 24,800 jobs and i put $500,000 into bridge construction. pennsylvania had the lowest unemployment rate of any industrial rate. we were at 7.ha4. infrastructure spending creates jobs, creates investment, works for america. >> but w

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governor rendell, what do you make of this decision -- you know the clintons pretty well.mart move to basically make moves to avoid being bad candidates? even if you like them like ashley judd? >> well, i like ashley judd, and she would have been a refreshing presence in the senate, but i think it's good that she's not running because what republicans would have done down in kentucky is made her the issue. a hollywood elite. someone who doesn't have any background in government, someone who plays with government. all of that would have been unfair, but it could have been a factor. we want to make the issue mitch mcconnell. the number one obstructionist to getting things done in washington. the guy who said the indefensible statement that our number one priority is making barack obama a one-term president. no, senator, your number one priority was jobs for the american people. you got it wrong and don't deserve to be re-elected. >> you just -- the governor just anticipated my entire closing statement tonight. but that's the whole question. >> sorry. >> how can you defend mc

pennsylvania governor ed rendell is here with us now.nor, another disturbing report from the asce. how do we do something about this? >> well, it's interesting, the last report was 2009 and the infrastructure got a d there. it went up to d plus based on some investments, the federal stimulus investments, some things that states have done, few things like rail jumped from a c minus to a c plus because of the joint program. so there were some good news but it's still pathetic. in 2005, the u.s. infrastructure was ranked best in the world. last year they ramnked us 14th best in the world. we are dropping like a stone. we are falling apart and falling behind. the only way we can change it is to make good short-term investments and the president has called it and more importantly we've got to develop a long-term ten-year revitalization program. we're the only g-20 fr infrastructure rebuild program. >> what will call for the millions or billion dollars due when you consider by 2020 the report says that we need $3.6 trillion in investment. wher

joining me is governor ed rendell. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> governor rendell, let me start with you. what do you make of the right's rhetoric on this issue? >> well, it's the last gasp of group of very bitter people and they've run out of good arguments. yesterday in the supreme court the lawyer actually argued that two 55-year-old's who wanted to get married, heterosexual 55-year-old's could pro create, could produce a baby and that's one of the reasons why they shouldn't throw out prop 8. ludicrous. does anyone think a 55-year-old man and woman is going to have a baby? their arguments are pathetic, don't make any sense, and all it's doing is destroying the republican party when republicans hue the line. the best thing they can do is let this happen, let it go away as an issue. they should support gay rights in many other fields because it's not just gay voters. it's independent voters. it's thoughtful suburban voters, it's college-educated voters. it's evangelicals un

i'm joined now by former new york congressman rick lazio and former governor of pennsylvania ed rendellthat the administration submitted this brief? >> i think it's a significant change and a step by the administration but i think it's a fairly easy case, chris, because the equal protection clause of our constitution says you can differentiate between classes but there has to be a harm that's committed. i would ask anybody opposed to this, what's the harm? a couple with a heterosexual marriage, how are they harmed by extending marriage to a gay couple? >> rick, there's a number of former governors part of this. jon huntsman, christine whitman -- there you see the pictures. seven of them. is this a shift in republican thinking? >> it's a shift in thinking. they took the position that states ought to decide, not just last year. >> arguably it's a tougher shift on the republican side and you're seeing a pretty big shift. >> it is. i think the whole country is shifting. if you look at the states that have had votes on same-sex marriage, according to the wo polling right now, there's a signi

and get congress to pass tougher gun control. >> governor rendell, give us your perspective. you've oversaw an entire, it has been just over 100 days. perspective is everything. as he said, we have not, meaning those who are fighting for gun safety, have not forgotten or is the public or perhaps some pundits being too harsh in saying that while so much time has passed, is it really that much time when you're talking about legislation that we knew from the very beginning that would be hard fought for those who want to see some type of change? >> no. i think your point is a good one. i don't think the public has lost its fervor here. i think we want common sense things to be done. i think if people stop it from happening, they're going to be punished. there are four suburban republican congressmen outside the city of philadelphia. their districts are 90% plus for universal background checks. 70% plus for high capacity magazines being limited. if they don't vote yes on those, they do so at their own peril. and worse, if their leadership tries to stop the bill from coming to the

i want to bring in former governor of pennsylvania, ed rendell. always good to see you, governor.good morning. >> these examples are just the tip of the iceberg, you were also a former mayor in philadelphia and had a bit of a bugtd problem when you took office. why so many now? what's happened? >> it's a combination of things. almost a perfect storm. one, pension liabilities have just skyrocketed because of the number of factors, but cities and counties and states are dealing with skyrocketing pension liabilities. two, the decrease in federal funds. we cut $2.7 trillion out of the federal budget. that's not enough. but we cut it. about 600 of that was revenue increases. there's been $2 trillion worth of cuts. a lot of that went into the states budgets, then from the states to the cities themselves. then as the economy worsens, more people in cities become -- fall into poverty and become people who, in fact, need services rather than people who are productive. it's a combination of things. it's very, very difficult for cities. but cities have to make tough choices. when i became ma

joining me is ed rendell, nbc news political analyst and msnbc analyst, michael steele, former chair of the republican national committee. welcome both. where are we today with the president going to the hill, first to see the senate democrats and then talk to republicans later in the week and he has not talked to republicans until now. is this a strategy borne out of desperati desperation? or optics or does he want a grand bargain and is this one to be had? >> i think the president does want a grand bargain and i think he does come to the view that michael and i have been talking about, that you've got to engage republicans. i will say i was disappointed in paul ryan's budget, no the because of medicare and medicaid, that was to be expected. but denying the viability of the president's health care plan. saying that has to be repealed. that's not a way to begin the conversation. after this great lunch they had, to come out and it's unrealistic. look. number one the president is president until 2016. number two, if the republicans swept everything in 2016, the filibuster rule would ha

mark halperin, ed rendell and lee gallagher back with us and joining the table, columnist from "ll beanto be furious. >> he borrowed it from rick santorum. >> saturday's column, his latest piece entitled "saving children from guns." why can't we childproof guns? in a time of deep sensitivity to the welfare of children, why can't we come up with a technology that would keep a gun from going off when it is being held by a child, or for that matter, by a thief, using a stolen gun, or an angry teenager, plotting to use his parents' arsenal to wreak havoc in a mall? it turns out, why is this not a surprise, that such technologies already exist. congress once cared enough about the safety of its citizens to pass laws about air bags and child-proof bottles will soon find out if it still cares enough about the safety of its constituents to make child-proofing guns the law of the land. it should. we were talking earlier, joe nocera on a segment about guns, about the lack of common sense and courage in places like the united states' senate, and certainly the house of representatives. but when it

but the former governor ed rendell didn't appreciate some of our questions about it. >> you guys don't> i do get it. >> you're simpletons. you're idiots if you don't get that. >> welcome to 60 minutes on cnbc. i'm steve kroft. in this edition, we look at the world of big deals on wall street and in las vegas and examine the impact of high-speed computers in both places. we begin with perhaps the most famous investor of them all, warren buffett. his fame extends far beyond wall street, his oldest son, howard, not so much. and yet he's the person warren buffett wants to succeed him as chairman of berkshire hathaway, the mega holding company that buffett built. for most of his adult life, howard has been a corn and soybean farmer in nebraska and illinois. and as lesley stahl first reported in december of 2011, howard doesn't live the high life, and he loves getting down in the dirt. >> this is the man who'll become the next chairman of the company-acquiring, investment-picking, moneymaking machine berkshire hathaway if warren buffett has his way. howard is a farmer who would rather dig up

>> all right, governor ed rendell and celinda lake, great to have you both business us.nks for your time. >>> ahead, the gop isn't just lost. they're cracking up. some big news about a party conference tomorrow that will have you scratching your head. [ male announcer ] here's a word you should keep in mind. unbiased. some brokerage firms are. but way too many aren't. why? because selling their funds makes them more money. which makes you wonder -- isn't that a conflict? search "proprietary mutual funds." yikes! then go to e-trade. we've got over 8,000 mutual funds, and not one of them has our name on it. we're in the business of finding the right investments for you. e-trade. less for us. more for you. the fund's prospectus contains its investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses, and other important information and should be read and considered carefully before investing. for a current prospectus, visit etrade.com/mutualfunds. a talking car. but i'll tell you what impresses me. a talking train. this ge locomotive can tell you exactly where it is, what it's carrying

thank you, governor rendell, joy. you were wonderful at the end. >>> coming up, the big announcement today from hillary clint clinton. she came out in favor of same-sex marriage. that's even a bigger boost, i think, to her run for president in 2016 should she make it. it's the first indication she's thinking about it seriously and clearing the deck on some of these issues. >>> this next story shows how out there the pro-gun movement in this country has become. so-called newtown truthers, they're called. they're gun nuts who claim the elementary school massacre in newtown, connecticut, never happened, that it was staged to take away gun rights. the fact is is these truthers are overwhelming the towns up there for demands for death circuits and burial sites. the governor of connecticut joins me to talk about more important things. >>> sarah palin proves she's the best carnival barker at the right wing circuit. she's been forgotten lately but hasn't stopped her from being a true hit among the believers. >>> this is a pic

governor rendell has it right.r inability to reach hispanics and reach women and gays and others and the only way to be viable in national elections and presidential elections is to reach out and include people that haven't been included in the past as part of the big tent. and republicans have to do that in a substantive way and individuals in the party, especially leadership has to be very conscious of this and work harder to do better. >> joe watkins and ed rendell. >> thank you, happy easter. >> the hiv testing for thousands of dental patients in the midwest. yummy, scrumptious bars. hmm? i just wanted you to eat more fiber. chewy, oatie, gooeyness... and fraudulence. i'm in deep, babe. you certainly are. [ male announcer ] fiber one. [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie has all the deliciousness you desire. the brownie of your dreams is now deliciously real. a talking car. but i'll tell you what impresses me. a talking train. this ge locomotive can tell you exactly where it is, w

i do agree with governor rendell that biggest roadblock is going to be the house and members of congress pathway to citizenship. ryan is flirting with it. but aside from rand paul and marco rubio, where are those voices in the house? if anything we're going to see very strong opposition from the republican party and if anything a latino is leading that charge. >> you know, joe, victoria you can take this. at cnbc we look at the business side of it. i want to ask more wholistic question, why are people so scared of this, a pathway to citizenship? what is the fear? >> 1986. the failure of 1986. >> border security is part of the deal in 1986 or at least not executed on. and so the fear is, i know a lot -- among a lot of rank and file republicans and joe you know this and heard this, that we have a repeat of '86. okay, fine, we give full amnesty to the 11 million, 12 million people and there is no check on border security. and then ten years, 20 years from now we have another 15, 20 million illegal -- >> all reagan's amnesty bill is encourage more illegal immigrants to jump the fence and com

and the idea that writing can restore something to us, that biography is an active recovery is rendellwineapple so wonderfully argues, is applicable both to biography and fiction. and here's another thing the two forms have in common that it spends wonderfully put by phyllis rose who wrote in parallel lives. we are desperate for information about how other people live because we want to know how to live ourselves. for me is that is certainly true of biography but it's also true of fiction. i want to give a single example from dostoevsky's and it's from a chapter called rebellion, which comes right before the grand inquisitor. i have in the oldest brother is giving ali ocean his views on the christian idea that there is an all-powerful all-knowing benevolent god and that things will all ultimately work out for the best. ivan makes his argument from stories and this is one of them. there was in those days the general of aristocratic connections, the owner of great estates. our general on his property of 2000 souls dominators over his poor neighbors as though they were dependents and buff

joining me now is ed rendell, former pennsylvania governor, and susan milligan, thank you both for your >> absolutely. >> my pleasure. >> ed, hillary clinton beats both jeb bush and marco rubio in their home state? is it panic time for the republicans? >> sure. because she just didn't beat him in a poll last month. she beat him by two or three points. now she's beating him by 11 points. and these are the two florida superstars. and worse, marco rubio has fallen down to 21. that's happened in a short period of time. they both waffled on path to citizenship and, again, it's part of the gun stuff and part of the whole negativity of the republican party and this party's go the to understand, it's not the way they deliver the message. it's not the message, it's the policies. unless they change their policy, they are not going to be able to be successful. >> amazing. >> let's go to another part of the poll. you have florida governor charlie crist who is now democrat ahead of the current sitting gop governor rick scott. christ, 50%. scott, 34%. now christ is beating the current governor in off

and we have pickens and ed rendell joining us for the infrastructure report.hings coming up at the top of the hour. back to you on "power lunch". >> mandy, thank you very much. one year ago today apple announced that it was going to begin paying a dividend, about $100 million in cash. shares are down almost 25% from a year ago. john forbes is here. john? >> i'm going to do a little rick santelli. let's break it down. $137 billion that apple has in cash but only 43 billion of that is actually in u.s. accounts. only about that much. that's what is available for apple to pay out in dividends without paying additional taxes. apple pays out about $10 billion annually. that's the rate that they are paying out in dividends. so the issue is how fast are they accumulating u.s. cash? well, it turns out at less than 4 billion per year. so if they boost the dividend by more than 30%, it raises the question that maybe they are drawing down their u.s. cash amount and maybe if they are drawing that down they need to do something like take out loans with some other companies.

it's a blue state but it's relatively low tax on personal income and they put in the fracking, ed rendell in the fracking and that state is doing very well. for some reason the state of new york has a huge high taxes and don't have the courage back bone or okcahonas to do fracking. >> pence is a light blue state, if you will. they do fracking. it's working there. it's working in ohio as well. new york outlaws it. vermont outlaws it. it's tough when they don't allow states to take advantage of energy. >> kansas and oklahoma and they will be ending their income taxes. >> they are. >> is there migration down those states >> we're having very clear response between oklahoma and texas. the response are very clear. the real problem is that oklahoma doesn't want to be sandwiched between kansas and texas because kansas is going to get rid of its income tax with brownback and texas doesn't have one. oklahoma has got respond. >> by the way, kansas very cold in the winter. >> they are raising the sales tax that means for at that lot of people in kansas you're talking about big tax increases. >> how

. >> the thing i will never forget is when ed rendell said, do you know what life expectancy rate was course i do, like off the top of his head. >> do you know the year medicare was created. that was his question. >> in addition to weird weather history with steve kornacki, i'm also going to -- >> that's the name of the new show, isn't it? >> oh, i'm hoping. i'm also going to miss, just the personal stories that steve would tell about how he navigates life. like discovering couscous at 33. and the hats. that should be the new show. steve kornacki discovers life. >> people don't know, he came into the office and was like, oh, my god, i had this great food saturday night. have you ever heard of this thing called can couscous? yeah, we have heard about that. but we are constantly discovering things of steve that come from the mind of kornacki. paranoid kornacki who we have all grown to love and feel a little weird about too. >> you are a hypocon dree yack. you always think you are sick. >> i'm not an alarmist. there is a difference. >> temperatures can get out of control, it could spread

joining me then, ed rendell.mes your way or the next hour. >> thomas, if the president had done an event with the village people in the background, maybe we wouldn't have the sequester. >> maybe not. they know how to get things done. >> they clearly do. we have a lot on our show today. both parties are working to free themselves from the shackles of blame. can you sequester the sequester? we'll discuss with maggie haberman, ben wallace wells, joe reed and bill wallace. >>> plus, can conservatives change course on gay marriage? and, doctor samson davis is here to talk about saving lives in america's inner-cities. we will look at all of that when "now" starts in the mirror 180 seconds. ork the camera... work it...work it! those hands. oooh la la! magnifique! what's your secret? what? huh? dawn? how can this be? [ female announcer ] dawn hand renewal with olay beauty helps lock in skin's natural moisture to improve the look and feel of hands in 5 uses. [ sponge ] gotta hand it to your beautiful hands, huh? [ female

and so they came together, and so rendell said to click, you owe me a new coat, mr.clay, because the bullet had pierced his code. so clay said to randolph, well, i'm glad the dead is not greater. >> right now we are at jones point. were standing on top of the southernmost tip of the district of columbia. this is the boundary marker that was late in 1791, when the federal government was creating that district of columbia. we look at the map of the map of district of columbia, it looks diamond shaped. but if you look at a modern map of d.c., it looks like moths have eaten the southern half of it. that's because the virginia part of the original district was wrecked as he did back to virginia. this point is a significant because it was the original boundary marker. to a number of boundary markers that were laid all around this area to point out the diamond shaped. the actual boundaries of the district, but this was the first, and it was also, there was a lot of ceremony that was involved in the placement of the stone in 1791. this is when it was placed here. so the sign

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and even though there is some very strong democratic advocates including former governor rendell of pennsylvaniao has seen how it transformed the economy of his state. it could do the same thing in --. david: governor cuomo in new york so far is holding off judgment. >> i think he is now promised in a fairly short period, assuming his health commissioner goes along with it. i believe and hope he will. david: what about on a national scale? you have fed regulations preventings movement of liquified natural gas. do you think the obama administration, which started out saying we're against all carbon energy, do you think maybe they're looking at it to say, well, at least natural gas is cleaner? maybe we get tax revenue? maybe it ain't so bad? >> well, natural gas is cheaper and much less pollutive than our coal-based. david: you don't have to sell me but could you sell the president on that? >> i think his people around him should know it and probably do because it's wonderful to promote electric cars but somebody has to make the electricity. it doesn't just live in the wall of your garage and need

joining us is ed rendell and michael steele.oth. >> hey. >> good morning. >> governor, four senators voting against this budget plan yesterday, those senators being baucus, begich, hagan and pryor. how scared are they. >> it's an epidemic on both sides of the aisle. everybody is scared to talk common to the people they represent. >> michael, jennifer argues that "the washington post" that just as much as the gop has shifted to the right, it's coming back to bite them. do you think that is right or is it a shift of voters back home? >> no, i think there's a lot of truth to that. in fact, i appreciate the governor's very concise point that was made and i would agree with him, that you have right now in washington a lot of people who call themselves leaders but who in fact aren't. they are not prepared to take the steps that are necessary to move the country forward on a host of issues or to bring clarity on issues. and so you're going to see the scenario i think played out much more democrats than people have anticipated, as your

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. >> yeah, glen thrush has a smart piece up that takes a look at democrats, governor rendell who's onr show a lot, other democrats on capitol hill who are very concerned about the sequestration strategy coming from the white house, largely from a communications standpoint. all these warnings of the dire consequences once sequestration kicked in. a lot of which haven't happened. and if they do happen, will happen well into the future. people looking at the stock market going up after sequestration. so there's a worry that by overhyping it, the white house has put itself in a tough political situation. you know, done the same thing to democrats on capitol hill, and that's why there's concern. >> by the way, the white house has canceled tours over the cuts. they can't afford to give tours anymore. if you want to tour the white house, you have to go through your lawmaker. you have to go up to the hill. that's how bad it is, joe. >> willie? >> yeah. >> willie, that's horrible. >> it's the people aus house no more. >> they're not letting american citizens in the white house because the cuts