we're talking about catholic art and artists and we just had a moment of looking into rene girard and his contribution of his understanding of our weaknesses, flaws, errors and sins. we will move on to something a little more positive. can we have slide number one please and this is the benedick 16 institute. it is under the office of this institute which is the archdiocese of san francisco that these gentlemen are in town today and the rene girard conference was established. the benedict institute is opening the door of beauty to god and energizing the catholic culture of the arts. thank you for that slide. gentlemen, you are cooperative with the benedict institute and were brought into town for the purpose of having the conference. i want to talk to you about the culture of catholic arts and energizing people in the doorway to beauty. you are both excellent riders, thinkers and scholars. so where is catholic art today and how is it going? >> i have a sense of of we are in the beginning of a renewal. joseph's comment about shivering and terror is not a bad response to contemporary hi

he has made a big deal about his conversion and he read a bunch of fancy philosophers, rene girard andhatnot. what god has revealed, he doesn't follow. he went to yale. he's not following the very primary teachings, the fundamental foundation teachings on life. host: does that prevent you from supporting the trump-vance ticket? if so, where do you go with your vote? caller: great question and things are asking. the answer is absolutely my conscience will not let me vote for him. who i will vote for is a little-known party called the american solidarity party. nine children. 100% pro-life. i have to go to the megan solidarity party -- american solidarity party. peter sonski. host: thank you for calling in. here is more of j.d. vance's acceptance speech. [video] >> this moment is about all of us. it's about who we are fighting for. it's about the autoworker in michigan wondering why out of touch politicians are destroying their jobs. it's about the factory worker in wisconsin who makes things with their hand and is proud of american craftsmanship. [cheers] it's about the energy worker in