most controversial time was back in april of 2013 when you had a trustee by the name of renee higgenbottom brooks who wrote a letter to her fellow trustees: she even suggested, it might not be around in three years. that was a year ago. how do you deal with this? because i know you're a candidate for president. she is still on your board i assume and you do have a new chairman though. >> we have two more years to try to outlive that on one end. and on the other end the this is is a very -- this is a very dedicated truee who i think was trying to bring attention to concerns that she had. and i think we all tend to add a little hyperably when we are trying to make a point and i think that was intended to make a private discourse and i think it was unfortunate that it got out into the public domain. nevertheless the discussion around what we need to do and all of us rallying around it so we can come together and move forward is something that has been ongoing. it was ongoing before that letter came out and i think it has even strengthened beyond that. the current chair elect stacy mobiley and the tw