i think what's important is christina renna.some things that i think i have prosecutors absolutely intrigued. she talked about a town being mayorless. several towns perhaps based on voting data. she apparently indicated there was a role the campaign had in certain decisions that were happening in the governor's office. what they would like to do is see not only what more she could tell them to follow those areas, but see very aggressive questioning of christina renna could take it even farther than the direction that was managed by the attorneys appointed by chris christie. >> just to take it up to the -- this idea of having these kinds of communications between the campaign, the christie re-election campaign and his office, even though it doesn't directly implicate christie in bridgegate itself, it does paint a picture of a campaign operation that was certainly infiltrating the political, the day to day operations of his office. >> with any governor running for reelection it's going to have this kind of interaction. the rocks a

>> i think christina renna's going to be an interesting hearing. the interview memo that came out from the interviews she did with gibson dunn for the christie exoneration report, her interview memos are really fascinating and give us an interesting picture of what the office bridget kelly worked in, how that office functioned, how it was used, how it was blended -- sort of no difference between the campaign and the governor's -- official state-paid actors in the governor's office. that will be really interesting to see how that worked and how it was used and what kind of directives they had and why she thought that there might be a list of people out there who they shouldn't talk to. >> and senator weinberg, i want to just follow up on something that was reported, too, that we have these four names, but also your co-chair in the committee seem to be saying bill stepien and bridget kelly, that the committee, you guys, might serve them with a narrower subpoena. i'm wondering, is that accurate, and how does that mesh with what the u.s. attorney may o

she called an iga staffer asking renna, can we get a list of hands-off mayors. you know we won't get it. it would change daily anyway. we also know christie's campaign kept a list of approved targets. these were mayors they wanted to endorse christie. mayor sokolich was number two on that list. there's so much overlaying evidence. what does it say about the criminal investigation here. conspiracy perhaps? coordinated effort to punish or favor mayors based on whether they were helping the re-election campaign, including the withholding of state funds, the closing down of bridges. does that sound like a criminal case to you? >> it would have to, right? it would have to be. if that isn't a crime, i'm not sure what corruption statute -- how a corruption statute could even be meaningful. how much of this is written down and to wonder how much else there is out there that we haven't seen. because just the amount of stuff that they've been willing to commit to e-mail, whether they're state e-mails or personal e-mails or text messages is fairly breathtaking. and whether

christie administration lawyers conducted with christina rena, a staffer in that office, quote, christina rennad christie's campaign manager bill stepien kept track of mayors who were not in favor of iga. iga staff would receive mandatory directives along the lines of do not rush to return this mayor's phone call. which was enough to send a message to the local elected official. approved targets, mandatory directives, send a message to local officials. what are we to make of all this? christie's camp has attacked the credibility of the state's investigative committee as they blow ahead. so christie and his team have done all they could to declare this saga over with. instead, it's clear this is far from over. and joining me now, the co-chair of the state's investigative committee, and brian murphy, an msnbc political analyst and former managing editor of politicsnj.com. i'll start with you. tell us what do you know as of now about the four new subpoenas? >> my understanding from conversations that i've had with other people in the legislature and with the chairman off the record, of course, is

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joining me karen finney host of disrupt, lgbt activist kathy renna and richard kim my colleague at thetive editor of thenation.com. i think the story is fascinating for a number of reasons. one it appears mayor contends it has nothing to do with sexual orientation. but let's say at least the perception is that it's amazing to me that "a" she was there for 20 years and no one seems to say boo. and "b" that the town seems to be rallying around her. and i think you have this big city liberal idea of what their views are in south carolina. it's like here's south carolina in 2006 residents voted 78% in favor of outlawing gay marriage. by 2013 only 52% of south carolina residents say gay marriage should be against the law. that is amazing and that is what is that six years or seven years? >> the thing is also across the country, employment discrimination has always polled very, very high. there's been something like 70%, 80% support across the country for the employment nondiscrimination act. even in a state like alaska there's an executive order saying you cannot discriminate against gay pe

christina renna who works under bridget kelly who gave the time for traffic in the fall email and pathority and said stop the closures, they violate state and federal law in last september. floyd will appear and they're not being asked for documents. floyd said he had indicated that she will do it. shuber has indicated that she will do it and i think we're still not sure about michael turniak and may 6th. >> and can we expect more subpoenas? >> the interesting thing is this, the legislative committee just lost a legal fight where they tried to subpoena bridget kelly and they wanted them to appear. they both invoked their fifth amendment right and a judge upheld that, and they have reasonable fear that they to be the targets of federal prosecution and could potentially complicate things for them. the judge left open how they will work practically. the judge left over the possibility that you can issue a narrower subpoena or that they can cissue a subpoena. they're looking to find a narrower subpoena that will get them involved somehow. >> you are breaking it down for us here, governor

renna comply it ratchets up the tension the most.ou had that ongoing communication happening between the campaign, mr. steppian and bridgette kelly's office and this was the assistant who would have been part of those communications. does this change the calculation for whether or not for instance bridgette kelly might get immunity because she might be in even more jeopardy or worry? >> it's interesting there. bridget kelly and her lawyer put out a statement about a month ago where he all but asked for immunity. basically said she is in the position here where you have the governor's office saying one thing, david wildstein something else and she can break the tie. they've played that card they want the deal. the question is whatever it happening in the u.s. attorneys office how that meshz with what's happening in terms of the state legislative committee. this u.s. attorney's office, paul fishman for new jersey it's an opaque office, very hard to look into to see what's going on. for people who cover new jersey and the u.s. attorney