renotic renoticed. i would like to withhold on that unless there's anyone here to speak on the item. we also use this hearing as a mechanism to push on the new appropriate owner. that's the other reason we were not able to take this off the agenda. we couldn't get the old property o owner to tell us whether or not they were going to withdraw. in any case, we're glad it's before you. we hope to push it toward the direction of getting resolution. >> great. is the previous property owner present? who's named in this action? >> is the current property owner here? can they speak as the appellant? >> you can call them up here. >> i'm going to call the current property owner. if they have a representative with them or counsel or someone who is assisting them. are you the current property owner? [off mic] >> do we need to administer the oath? >> this is the oath of office to you. you can come to the podium. do you swear that the testimony you're about to give is the truth to the best of your knowledge? >> yes. >> hi. >> hi. i'm the new owner. >> do you want to state your name? >> my name is jennifer -- we lived there for three weeks. october 19th. i'm very new about everything. i take over the property. >> can you speak into the mic a little bit? thanks so much, ma'am. >> the property had a violation, and i tried to follow up and correct everything as soon as possible. i already got the permit to fix the furnace, heater, and plumbing. yes. but i have a little bit issue with the tenant. so the tenant won't let me in the property and won't let the housing inspector come in. they pushing us away. they don't let us in. and the day i come over to get the key, the tenant attorney come over and say -- they gave me the letter that he needs 55,000 for the tenant. and i told him i don't -- after i bought the property, i don't have any more money. the day that i have appeared today, i didn't even have the letter, so the tenant called me. the attorney tenant called me. i thought -- he sent it to me. he told me that you give me the money, and i won't show up at the appeal. if you don't, then i will be show up, and you gonna have pay more. so i'm very -- i don't even know what i have to do. i tell him that i have no money, no more, after i bought the house. and he say that you have to do the refinance to get the money out, but i called the agent, but they say you can't because you just bought the property. you cannot do the refinance cashout. so i got so -- i don't even know what i have to do, but i followed the rule. i try to fix the property. everything. i got permits and contractor doing the work. we try to correct everything. so please tell me what i have to do. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> is there public comment? >> hi, there. thank you. my name is tim kelly. i'm an attorney for two of the tenants at this residency. i'm very glad this is happening to try to get some clarity. my tenant's position is very simple. they've lived in a home for quite a while that has been substandard and hazardous, and repeated efforts to ask the landlord, the previous owner, to make repairs have gone largely ignor ignored. it was mentioned earlier that the landlord appealed and the thought was that was in order to close the sale. they did a similar move with my tenants in that they said they were entering into a buyout negotiation in order to keep them from filing a civil suit based on a rent board finding that they owed money and announced that the house had been sold. so i've spoken with ms. tran. she says she was not aware of any of this. in that case, she has our deepest sympathies that she was sold sort of a lemon of a house with numerous problems. my client's position is simply they want to make sure the repairs are done swiftly and that they are clearly communicated how and when they're going to be done. ms. tran mentioned that the tenants were not eager to grant access. they're happy to grant access. they just ask that 24 hours notice be provided, and it wasn't. i have repeatedly reached out to ms. tran and her attorney, and i have gotten very intermittent and difficult to comprehend communication back. her attorney has not responded to my last two emails or answered any of the questions we have, but we simply want to do whatever can be done to ensure that these repairs happen swifty and that the house is not hazardous. we are provided with basic information about when and how that's going to happen. i will quickly point out my clients are of the opinion, and strong suspicion -- i don't want to engage in paranoia here -- that the previous owner and current owner are in collaboration. while i don't have evidence to speaker on that, it was mentioned that the home was sold in october, and the mechanical permit that the new owner submitted seems to have been filed by the old owner. so i don't know if that's just a carryover or if it's indication of that, but i hope we can get some clarity. thank you so much. >> no, i don't have a question. basically, i wanted to clarify that we could get our inspectors in to move this forward, essentially. i mean, we're not going to take an action here necessarily anyway. >> rosemary, do you have a rebuttal or anything you want to add? >> is there any additional public comment first? i'm seeing none. >> rebuttal. >> thank you. >> there's an entry that's citing a different permit. there may have been a different permit filed by the owner. in any case, we see some movement by the property owner. as i said, she has met with my inspector shortly after taking over the property. right now, the first thing we want done, obviously, is to get that heat source in the building. then we're going to be dealing with other notices of violation that, as i stated, are related to the illegal unit and the other maintenance items. there are two other notices of violation. we're reissuing the notices of violation against this property owner because while they could comply, we can't compel compliance unless we do that, and you would have jurisdiction over the current owner then. >> great. >> as i said, this just changed hands. my recommendation, based on what i've heard, is to recommend at this point in time to continue the item at least to the next meeting, if you so desire, at which time the current owner will be renoticed. she has a copy of all of them, but they have not been issued to her, which is important. she did get a copy of today's hearing as well. that was delivered. so at that time, then this would be -- the notices of violation would be reissued to the current owner, and then we could report back on the status of what is happening with the heat source. again, that is the only thing that has been appealed to you so far. >> okay. commissioner walker? >> after the notices, then, it does still need to go to another director's hearing? >> is that the possible. yes, because of the way the code is written. the way the code is written, it would have to go to another hearing, but if you would like to continue the item so that the property owner and the staff would report back to you, i would encourage that because that helps me. i encourage the property owner to continue in good faith to get the item done. then, should we need to take further code enforcement action on all three items, we would do th