call offenses, but other measures to help us protect our border, and of course, also working with rentech's's not in ngo. maybe some people in the european parliament think it should be an ngo, but it should not. it's a border protection unit, heavily funded by the european union, and we are always working with it in whatever issues arise, we always try to resolve them. francine: there's no change of policies on refugees? wax or has been a change of policy at the level of the council, which is most welcome. we argued a lot about it to make sure we place the external dimension of migration front and center because we were talking a lot about the internal dimension, which is, how do we move people once they enter the european union, who should be responsible for welcoming, are we going to have quotas, and these are difficult topics. but we reduce the number of people who enter. legally we would not be able to address a problem but this is not sufficient. we need to offer legal pathways and be more effective when it comes to returns. francine: you've done a lot of work on lgbtq rights, how muc