nobody knows, especially our republican colleagues. mr. president, it's like leader mcconnell is setting senate republicans up to play choose your own adventure with our families' health care. even if he doesn't know for sure where this will end but it's clearly -- clear he will do whatever it takes to get there. he's sending vice president pence to twist arms to try and convince a few more republicans to stay quiet. about their very legitimate concerns. but as we head towards a possible vote tomorrow, i hope that my republican colleagues, especially those who've already indicated they oppose this bill in process will demand better for their own constituents. and i'm going to keep saying this until it sinks in. democrats are ready as we always have been to work with republicans to improve our health care system and make health care more affordable, more accessible, and higher quality. and to clean up the mess that has now been made with their efforts to sabotage the a.c.a. in order to jam this trumpcare bill through. because let's be clear

every kind of republican that exists is in the log cabin republican. there are a lot of disagreements behind the scenes i have to come together to create a united front for the lgbt voters. >> what have been some of their successes? clayton: they have faced a lot of challenges over the years. it is worth noting that i do think there is a wing and a party that is sympathetic to them. camerecently, john kasich out and supported same-sex marriage and said he did not want to overturn the recent court rulings on it. most of our history came early on. there was a wing in the early 1980's, specifically in california. i interviewed a guy who is very active in the late 1970's and early 1980's. he told me a story about ed davis, who used to be the police chief of los angeles and he used to close the gay bars. he became a state senator and the log cabin republicans of california lobbied him to support a gay-rights bill, an antidiscrimination bill that later got vetoed by the governor, but it came full circle. >> what are some of the hurdles they have faced? clayt

i think in republican districts, this is a problem for republican lawmakers. the inability to get something done. i think in the broader scheme of things, it's a problem for the party and for the president, and that the republican party needs a victory. they need something big. they need tax reform or infrastructure or something. and maybe they get that after the recess. but mitch mcconnell was not speaking in such glowing terms about this as a campaign issue, as we're hearing here tonight. i think he sees it as a defeat. and i think it is tonight for the republicans. it may not be a long-term defeat. it may be something that only lasts momentarily as shaun says, but for tonight, this is a setback for the gop. >> john mccain also has just said in the last couple moments that he is concerned this bill could be picked up and re-introduced at any time, that republicans could run with it again. with that, we'll take a short break. a lot more of our continuing coverage of what has been a very bad night and a very bizarre day in washington. stay with us. you're watc

republican senators are certainly hearing from folks back in their states about the republican effort to replace the affordable care act. what impact do you think this recess is going to have on republican leaders' efforts to corral enough votes to get this passed when they do come back? guest: that is a good question. they wanted to get this done before people went on the july 4 recess. now they will be back for three weeks. republican leaders want to get it done before. hearing from constituents about this issue. i'm not sure it has necessarily moved anyone yet. a lot of senators are still holding their fire and waiting to see what is going to happen when they get back in session. host: susan collins is one of those senators. she was interviewed during one of those marches saying that health care was the issue people were asking her about. who are going to be the key senators you will be watching when they do come back next week to see if there has been a shift? guest: susan collins is certainly one. she is on the moderate side. on the conservative side, rand paul, mike lee, ted cru

republican leadership only needs to walk through it. as many republican members are urging him. the door is to accept the progress we have made in our health care system and work to improve it. the affordable care act is in perfect but repealing all of the good things about the law will create such chaos that there will hardly be anything left toc repair. republicans don't need to wreak havoc our health care system first in order to get democrats to the table. we are ready to sit down right now, if republicans abandon cutd to medicaid, abandon huge tax breaks for the wealthy, and agree to go through the regular order, through the committees with hearings, onto the floor with time for amendments.n that's how we perfect legislation here. that's how it's been done for 200 years. almost inevitably when you try to draft something behind closed doors and not vetted with the public, it becomes a failure, in this case, a disaster so again, our republican colleagues don't need to wreak havoc on our health care system first in order to get democrats to the table. we are ready to sit down

for republicans.ine for republicans. .aller: i welcome the repeal is health care is a right or privilege. the rule of all arguments and i think it is a privilege, not a you conceived the problem. is the interest groups and health care is health interest, but it is not. we can solve the problem with insurance. the insurance took other people's money to help other people and they never lower your cost. the affordable care is middle-class people can afford their health care, not depend on insurance companies. repeal obama care. no insurance,le the cost will be lower. the insurance company is a problem. it will only increase the cost. host: if you want to join the conversation, democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. .ndependents, 202-748-8002 you can also join the conversation on twitter @cspanwj if you want to join in. sandy beach rights and this morning, the time has come for conservatives to sit back as dems has done -- have done all along and watch obamacare explode. the repeal and delay

listen to what nonpartisan cbo appointed by the republican leader by the senate and the republican leader of the house. they said it would causelo 32 million americans to lose their insurance and premiums would double. end medicaid expan with no grace period or option for states who like their medicaid expansion and want to keep it. in many ways, it's just as cruel, if not crueler, to medicaid as the trumpcare bill in a different way. so i would expect the same senators who are concerned about trumpcare bill's medicaid cuts will be equally concerned about what repeal and delay would do to medicaid. to medicaid. i expect the senators will be equally concerned about the repeal and delay due to medicaid. many of my republican friends rejected the idea of repeal and delay several months ago at the beginning of the year when president trump first proposed it seems like that the republicans would do. there are some of the names back then who said repeal and then replace, later, doesn't work. here they were: alexander, collins, corker, cochran, well rakowski, paul. i would tell those colleagues

i hope our republican colleagues will realize that. don't you think both sides, even if there were these behind the scenes conversations, that both sides have to swallow their pride, and it is nice to talk about working together -- noator schumer: there is pride here. we talk about the american people. that is plain and simple. that has motivated our entire caucus was the realization that what is being proposed in trumpcare would have 20 million people lose coverage, making it so hard to deal with pre-existing conditions, would have made it hard for families to keep their loved in nursing ones homes. this is not a game. we go out and talk to our constituents who this affects, and we want to help them. this is not something i think a lot of people on the other side have this ideological view that is so detached from reality they are removed from it. that is not us. we are not entrenched. we have been calling to work with our republican colleagues, we will see. let's find out. >> regular order can be slow, it can be a grinding process, i

he's a republican in name only. paul ryan has not done any favors for president trump and i think he should be gotten away from. >> host: the president tweeted this morning, what's on his mind, saying drain the swamp should be changed to drain the sewer. it's much worse than anyone ever thought and he begins with fake news. and then tweeting five minutes ago, chuck sure just stated democrats should blame ourselves, not russia. the president talk about chuck schumer who has been making the round as democrats announced a new policy agenda, rolling it out today. that's the question we will have for democrats in about 25 minutes when we talk about that policy agenda. it will be a democrats only segment there. for the first half-hour, republicans only based on the president's tweet from yesterday at about four. he tweeted the republicans do very little to protect their president. you think elected republican should do more to protect the president. what does he need protection from? catherine is in almonte. go ahead. >>

republican leaders determined there is no appetite within the republican conference to do a repeal without a replacement plan being in place. now, where is president trump on all of this? he is certainly frustrated, as you mentioned and sending conflicting messages on what he wants to see happen. this morning, he sent out a tweet saying, as i always said, let obamacare fail, then come together to do a great health care plan. stay tuned. that is not exactly the message he sent last night on twitter when he said republicans should just repeal failing obamacare now and work on a new health care plan that will start from a clean slate. democrats will join in. john, what we are watching the next couple hours is the senate lunch when a lot of republican senators may be offering pushback to senator mitch mcconnell for offering the repeal now and replace later plan. we might get a better time line of when the vote is expected to happen. there is a lot of uncertainty on how the next few days will unfold. john? >> senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell. >> everyone knows about obamacare skyrocketin

what republicans and republican senators in particular have accepted from donald trump, and in that silence we could think of dozens and dozens of more outrageous things that republican senators have accepted from donald trump. but this is tv, and if i go silent, they'll pop a commercial in here, so let's move on to the outrage. the final outrage that has provoked some republican senators to reach into what's left of their conscience and object, object to president trump, and that outrage of course is the president's treatment of a republican senator. senator jeff sessions was the first senator to endorse the candidacy of donald trump. senator jeff sessions was the only republican senator who endorsed the candidacy of donald trump before donald trump won the republican presidential nomination. and this week, senator jeff sessions has become the new trump enemy, the new hillary, the new obama, the new lyin' ted, the new little marco. we now have the beleaguered attorney general jeff sessions according to donald trump. and so for republican senators, donald trump has finally crossed the line

make no mistake, that is the republican strategy. the republican senators have said that. in addition to this tax on, the cruise proposal destroys private healthcare marketplace for our people. since the premium skyrocketing and makes care unaffordable for anyone with a pre-existing condition. make no mistake about it, taxpayers are going to get stuck with the astronomical cost of cleaning up the damage. in effect, the republicans know that will happen. they're trying to buy additional votes by blowing this hole in the healthcare system and then shoveling taxpayer dollars into the hole. you see that in their proposal. as my colleagues have noted, the new version still makes massive cuts in medicaid. the changes are cosmetic and we have already looked at those in here is the message on opiates. this puts a band-aid on a gaping wound that is the opiate epidemic. it is not going to come close to meeting the needs that are colleagues say they are hearing about in their community. across the country, doctors, patients, and healthcare experts have basically been shown to from th

had libertarian republicans one, but what republicans came up with was not as compelling as defeating barack obama. susan: does that surprise you? >> a little bit. this is not a president that has trouble drawing a crowd. the favorite super pac of the propose the idea of having some protest during the longer recesses. i should say rallies in favor of this, and people weren't showing up. the tea party groups that exist have strong since the movement since they are mainly focused on 2090 2010. having these meetings with top republicans saying pass it. they did not have -- when they had a concrete goal it was something to do and i have purchased in the senate republican caucus. something like repeal everything and start over, which was easy for them to say. just run the 2010 election of the failure of obamacare. very difficult to elect a republican he said sorry you lost insurance for we need to fix this after the next election. it did not cohere at any point in the process. susan: big week for john mccain. what are your observations and the senator performed this week? >> this whole dra

of more republicans.any more republicans are comfortable talking about tax reform. you look back on every presidential candidate over the last 20 years on the republican side. they've had a tax reform plan, even donald trump had one during the election. this is something that republicans can return to. they put out a statement, richard, on friday suggesting that there is a fair amount of agreement actually between house republicans, senate republicans and the white house on the way forward. i tend to think that it's a much more productive set of discussions moving to tax reform for the republicans than continuing on as difficult as it is for me to say, than continuing on with that repeal and replace effort. >> the repeal and replace frt and erica when you look at the base for this president in the last election in the cycles, we look forward to 2018, does he still give the head nod to those who got him into the office, those swing counties across the country that in our latest nbc news "the wall street jo

republicans as well. i remember reading guidance last week saying a lot of these are republicans were irked that they would have to linger around for another five to seven days to vote on something that thus far hasn't had the votes. >> reporter: yeah, and i just want to be clear. in talking about sort of the mood within the republican conference right now, this is not a situation where these republican senators are joyful to be voting for this bill. getting to this process and potentially getting to the 50 yes votes, it has been extremely painful. mitch mcconnell had to have a lot of conversations, as you know, a lot of setbacks to get to this moment and the fact that this has been mostly a closed-door process, that a lot of members felt like they, you know, were finding out about the plan for any given day, mostly from reporters, that, you know, even their aides or themselves, they didn't know what it is that would be happening in the senate on any given day. that has created a lot of tension and i thin

republicans are in the same situation. republicans will argue that these are democrats and not their voters making a fuss about it, there's probably some truth about that, but to your point if you look at public opinion polls, republicans on the short sidet of that and they are in some ways damned if they do and damned if they don't. but, in their minds, they are going to go ahead and try to vote for this bill and try to pass it. then if they have to pay a price at the pool, if things don't work out, if their plans don't show improvement or increased access and lower cost and all the things they are promising, then they may pay the same price the democrats paid by passing it back in 2009.feel if i think a lot of republicans feel if they don't do this, because again it's something that every single one of them have run on. you can talk about the special interest and whatnot, but again most of these folks have run on the fact of repealing obamacare. t it's one of the things that put them into office may feel it's a promise t

now, as the senate continues to debate on the republican health care bill, it seems the republican majority is no clearer on what the end game is, because there's no good way out of this. last night, the senate republican trumpcare bill, after months of back room negotiating and -- back-room negotiating and provisions aimed at all kinds of individual states and members died, with nine republicans voting against the measure and many others who voted for it gritting their teeth unhappily. later today, we'll vote on a bill to repeal the affordable care act without replacing it. i know that you, mr. president, have championed that bill. based on the public comments and public criticism, from the other side of the aisle, repeal without replace will fail as well. it's becoming clearer that in the end, the majority leader might push a much scaled-back version of repeal in the hopes of passing something, so-called skinny repeal, just to get to conference. but my colleagues, make no mistake about it, skinny repeal is equal to full repeal. it's a trojan horse designed to get the house and senate into

we see this with the republican governors, not democrats -- republican governors -- returning to the point of medicaid being popular in terms of expansion in the states. they seem to be a key stakeholder in the debate. sarah: they really are and they've been more vocal than i would have expected but a lot of republican governors are getting a lot of money in their states for medicaid expansion and this is especially important in states suffering from the opioid epidemic, places like ohio where john kasich is governor, they feel they need medicaid expansion to continue. one of the things that was surprising, last week we saw nevada's governor give a press conference where he sounded like a spokesperson for obamacare, a republican governor talking about how important this law has been and how great it has been and it is interesting to see this intraparty divide. robert: and sandoval is the one who pressured senator dean heller, not to back the bill. michael, you've written about the power of the g.o.p. governors. could they tilt the debate? michael: i think they already are. in nevada,

congressional republicans campaigned in four republican election cycles we'll do this. president trump, candidate trump, took it on. during the campaign said it would be easy. now what? >> yeah. i think that it's a really telling sign that mitch mcconnell has chosen to go down the route that they almost pursued earlier this year. the repeal and delay tactic. right? but republican leaders decided that that was not something that there was appetite for within the republican conference. but which to me sfal signals mcconnell wants a sense of finality. there hasn't been a vote in the senate. even if he decides, look, votes aren't there, but this is going to be what shows to the world that republicans took a vote and if it fails then that's where things stand. it's clear mcconnell wants to take some sort of action even if it's looking really hard now he may even have 50 votes on the motion to proceed. >> to that point, before you jump in, i want people to hear from senator mcconnell. interesting. senator mcconnell decided early on do it as one package. just repeal, no guaran

ohio, republican, go ahead. caller: i just wanted to address a couple of things and get their comments on the a formal care act. people -- that helps it does evan has but for everyone person it has helped, it has probably hurt six different people. it seems the focus is too much on those individuals and not oft the ramifications insurance companies pulling out. those stores are the ones that republicans are trying to highlight in the debate. >> i think they have. they still do. they have for the last six month, trying to drive home the point that obamacare is not working in many places. i don't know how many counties but they don't have a single insurer so what do people do? insurance companies pulling out of the marketplace is a problem. that raises premiums for individuals. i was talking to a friend who was on obamacare and she said she was sick and did not want could to go to the doctor because the co-pay was too high. obviously, there are issues with obamacare. the pre-existing conditions is overwhelmingly w

republicans are two minds about this. some republicans think, you know, if they vote on this, if they don't do this, they do not repeal this, it will be catastrophic in the 2018 election. other republicans will say look, if we don't do this, ovonic here is going to all its own way. we are going to own it. the majority of republicans in the senate is that they own this regardless in much the same way as the economy and they had better get around to doing something about it because one way or another they are going to pay a price for it if they don't get this done. >> host: as they talk about health care and mr. about health care in this republican effort in the summit to get this bill passed the opponents are up and if you want to join the conversation with tom bevan of real clear politics. democrats can call when of real clear politics. democrats can call when republicans 202-748-8001. independents 202-748-8002. we have been airing as many town hall says we can to show what it is like for senators as they go back into the

c-span is recognized as an important avenue for republicans and backbenchers -- republicans to get backbenchers on what they consider important causes. one minute speech is to say we stand for things like balanced budget amendment's, prayer in schools, why don't the democrats bring up these issues? this is what gingrich would call chinese water torture. and it annoys the democratic leadership. ultimately komen aided in a major event in may of 1984 when gingrich and allies went to read experts of a memo from a former staffer that talked about the democratic party's foreign-policy. to go to the floor to amend themselves. it angered a lot of democrats. he goes to the floor and newt gingrich is there. he was clearly upset. we recommend you watch the whole period because there were a lot of words exchanged by a lot of members. early on this is the lowest thing i have ever seen in my 32 years in congress. a very rare thing to happen. this gets coverage on all the networks and all the major newspapers. it does lead to some minor procedural changes, democrats trying to limit what republicans can do. en

the argument prevailing among republicans, as a talking point, not a persuasion point, republicans have to remember one thing -- for more than seven years, they haven't arguing with appealing the affordable care act. been arguing with appealing the affordable care act. he will suffer politically if they do not. in the senate -- they will suffer politically if they do not. in the senate, it is not -- before it passed a different bill. the reason it is different is the senators have to run statewide. to presidentfixed trump or the conservative base. when you're asking about president trump's persuasion, he is not helping the case because he has been all over the map. he has been saying the hospital is -- cindy house bill is meet -- saying the house bill is mean. he flirted with the idea that they could do it separate. the white house, through the other officials, said no, that is not our position. the president has been not necessarily the outside cheerleader that we would have expected in the past that a president would be. necessarily as effective with a senate conference. guest: it is

and house republicans. i never saw a path where they could successfully resolve their internal differences. one of the things that's so shocking about this process to date is not that democrats weren't invited but that the major stakeholders in the health care system were completely shut out of this. doctors, hospitals, insurers, patient groups. everyone was excluded. ands as a result, we've seen a full-page ad in the "new york times" saying we are against this because we haven't been involved. nobody's consulted us about the health care system. we're the ones who are providing the health care. maybe we, maybe you should consult with us. >> but there's also one other thing, which is the weakness of donald trump. he' not able to convince the people in his own party to vote for health care reform. they spent the last few days in internal feuds rather than making the point or talking to american people. youngstown, ohio the other day, he's not getting the people behind him and not getting congress behind him,

republicans are for repealing it, but republicans made a promise. we made a promise to the american people to repeal it. there may be some republicans today who say i'm not voting to repeal any longer. things have changed. the problem is that we're not going to get towards the solution if we don't begin to repeal. the other thing about this repeal is there is a two-year window in which part of the repeal doesn't take place for two years. over that two years, my guess is we will have impetus from the other side to actually begin to negotiate. currently, there are 27 million people in america without insurance. you would think from all the talk that obamacare has covered every value and republicans are against that. count me as one republican who wants to figure out how to insure the 27 million who don't have insurance. of the 27 million people who don't have insurance under obamacare, half of them don't buy insurance because it's too expensive. why is it too expensive? because obamacare dictates about 15 different things that every insurance policy h

problem number two for the republicans is republicans didn't expect to be in the position they're in and so they've talked a lot over the last however many years about getting rid of obamacare, repeal and replace without having that alternative plan and problem number three is that the president's natural position, don, is to actually favor health coverage for more people. he has said going back to 2000, 17 years ago, he wrote in his book "the america we deserve," that he was a conservative on most issues but he was a liberal on this one. he wanted to cover more people. now he's leading a party though that has a bill that essentially will shrink care according to the cbo. so it's an unnatural position for the president and he has not campaigned forcefully for it. that's where we are right now. >> kaytlin, will they have the votes if mitch mcconnell wants to do, will they have the votes for a straight repeal. >> it's not likely. it gebs them the chance to say they tried. tonight as mike leann jerry moran said they were not going to support this bill, donald trump and mike pence were h

the more libertarian republicans had won, below republicans came up with was not as compelling as defeat. >> fishing to be no effort from the white house to mobilize supporters to get to capitol hill to have an opposing viewpoint. does that surprise you? isa little bit because this not a president that has trouble drawing crowds. the favorite super pac of the president even propose the idea of having some protests during the longer recesses -- i should say rallies in favor of this and people weren't showing up. existedgroups that have have shrunk since the beta the movement since 2009 and 2010. they are mainly focused on having these meetings with top republicans saying pass it. when they had a concrete goal it was something that didn't have purchase especially in the republican caucus. it was some and start over, which is easy for them to say, does run the 2018 election on the failure of obamacare. it's tough for them to say sorry you lost insurance but we need to fix is after the next election. >> a big week for john mccain. what were your looks at how he performed? whole drama. the sp

comeon't the democrats over to the republicans and help the republicans?t does not make any sense to me. like it making it sound is trump's fault and it is not even trump's fault. it is totally obama's fault. host: i want to let you know that we will take calls from democrats only on the last half-hour of this program. if you are trying to get in, please sit tight and call at 9:30 or later. washington post editorial, time for repair, not repeal. agreement would come fairly easy. the house and senate republican health care bills contain a variety of provisions that would have short up -- short up existing markets, and those can be copied and pasted into a new bipartisan bill. moving the on the partisan goal of replacing obamacare, that would unlock a wider range of options, because lawmakers would no longer be bound by strict parliamentary reconciliation rules. only one option would be taken off the table, the responsible call to wreck the system. -- irresponsible call to wreck the system. back to the times, it is written "plain democrats who created obamac

you think republicans did -- congressional republicans should do more to protect president trump?ou can also catch up with us on social media. a very good monday morning to you. we'll have a question for democrats, 30 minutes from now. for the first 30 minutes, it is just republicans only and hour question is based on this tweet yesterday from the president could he said, "it is sad that republicans, even some that were carried over the line on my back to very little to protect their president." aboutesident also talked the rush investigation. in that tweet, complaints about republicans and whether they are protecting him. do you think congressional republicans are doing enough to protect the president? "roll call" newspaper in washington, d.c. focusing on this tweet yesterday. trump lashes out at republicans saying they will not protect him. it is not clear, they write -- this morning i want to hear from you. elected republicans, should they do more to protect president trump. if you are can can only. only.you are republicans go ahead. caller: thank you for c-span. trump is aside

caller: you may call them "republicans," but you are not really republicans. people leading this country are cons," trying to con the american people pay the latest con is the new health care bill. this calls for a tax reduction for the wealthiest 1% of this country, when it does not cover health or care. forovers illness care millions and a great tax relief for greedy republicans, who care only for their pocketbooks. it is a transfer of wealth from the people who need of the most of the people who needed the least. y, rapid city, south dakota, independent. good morning. hower: i would like to know these people in the congress can do this to the elderly and do this to people who are mentally sick, who have cancer. cancer is not only caused by smoking. cancer is caused by a gene. that gene is the effective. -- is defective. but they want to kill people. host: why you say that? caller: they talk about the holocaust, talk about other stuff, taking people off of medicaid, people who have asthma. they have no fault in that. their parents do work. it may be a $40,00

>> kick the republicans while they are down. it's what any self-respecting politician would do and that's exactly what chuck schumer is going to do. >> he's invited all of the republican senators over to the white house for lunch tomorrow to discuss health care and other issues, and i'm assuming that other issues include tax reform, which they are desperate to get to. >> if chumps think that his magical, persuasive powers which made him a billionaire in real estate, is going to work and changing the vote of the senate, i think he's mistaken i will discover that tomorrow. >> american conservative union statement, republicans who publicly denounce obamacare but privately push to keep most of it are unworthy of future support. they symbolize the very frustration that voters have with washington and the most unproductive congress in 164 years. did you write that? >> i had a little bit of a hand in it. i think they better bring their food tasters with them because i have the feeling that the president is fit to be tied. i think there

i'm not owning it and that's not possible when you have a republican president and republican congressy, there are a lot of americans, i've been to town halls, there are a lot of people genuinely concerned about their health care. there are dozens of county where insurers have pulled out, dozens of counties where americans can't buy obamacare health care. >> 38 counties. >> i would also make the point that one of my colleagues just tweeted, christina partysoeters that there were no women on the health care working group to begin with and the senators were criticized for this. we just saw a group of men come out and speak about the defeat, but it is three women who are ultimately sinking this effort to repeal a clean repeal. >> capito, collins, murkowski, you're right. >> and those are the women who are bringing this down. i think it's worth noting because from the very beginning, this group has been criticized for having no diversity, no women. >> we have chuck schumer. let's get the democratic response. we'll get him to the podium. >> i'm proud to be joined by senators klobuchar and h

republicans have wanted to scaling back. the current plan with you that dramatically. -- would do that dramatically. one of the things you see now if you look at what the administration and republicans in congress say about this, these are not really cuts to medicaid. we are cutting the rate of growth. it is not really a cut. what that suggests is they have realized the idea of cutting medicaid is something the public has a real problem with. what we found, to the republican's chagrin, most americans are ok with government health care. they look at their parents and grandparents who are on medicare, people on medicaid, and they say that's a pretty good deal. republicans have this long-standing objection to it. they are in a position where they are trying to sell a policy that is based on that philosophy that says we should get government out of health care and basically what the market do its magic. but they are realizing people are not all that receptive to it. that is putting them in this awkward position. in polls they ar

the more libertarian republicans had won, below republicans came up with was not as compelling as defeat. no effort from the white house to mobilize supporters to get to capitol hill to have an opposing viewpoint. does that surprise you? david: a little bit because this is not a president that has trouble drawing crowds. the favorite super pac of the president even propose the idea of having some protests during the longer recesses -- i should say rallies in favor of this and people weren't showing up. the key groups that have existed have shrunk since the beta the movement since 2009 and 2010. they are mainly focused on having these meetings with top republicans saying pass it. when they had a concrete goal it was something that didn't have purchase especially in the republican caucus. it was some and start over, which is easy for them to say, does run the 2018 election on the failure of obamacare. it's tough for them to say sorry you lost insurance but we need to fix is after the next election. susan: a big week for john mccain. what were your looks at how he performed? alan: this whol

for the republican base and for the republican voters who created a republican majority in both the house and senate they expect their guys to fight hard, stay tough and stay to the right. what you saw sadly during the process unfolding during the past couple of days is not republicans and the house reflect pensiveley about the vote, it's bad formula for getting things done in washington. >> david jolly, for a second let's go though that point. the attacks on murckowski and collins, in one case it was northeast women senators or something like that came from members of the house. apparently conservative house republicans. how does one deal with that? >> did i lose david jolly? >> are you here? >> look, this goes back frankly to 2010 and the tea party movement and the candidates we see emerge and be affirmed by a very strong republican conservative base. they will continue to do that. that is right. how they get reelected, not tomorrow morning saying let's compromise, but tomorrow morning blaming rhinos as i get called all the time and blaming democrats and the truth is what is sad for the

guest: republicans now are this bill.emocrats have said there was no way they are repealing president obama's legacy legislation. have been working one party only. this idea of a bipartisan bill has been a fantasy pretty wild. there have been a handful of democrats who said they would it, but it is not it is been a clinical possibility at all. [no audio] it will be interesting because it is not just a warning to the conservatives in his party to saying,oard, but it is they might fail. for the majority leader to open the door to failure is a big deal. to tedending a message cruz and the conservatives who oppose the current version of the senate bill, and also a message to everybody that there will be a bill this year. the obamacare markets are in trouble right now. everybody agrees they need help. insurers are saying there is too much uncertainty and they need assurance that there will be a in effect next year and funding to back up what they are liable for. billnk a truly bipartisan is a long way off. i do not think we wi

some people in the house republican conference, you look at moderate republicans like tom mccarthy of new jersey, they went out on a limb when they passed the other healthcare bill in may and if this never gets solved, that goes on their record. >> a very long night. >> what is coming up next? you were saying there was controversy, you heard background noise when mitch mcconnell tried to talk about that. >> talking about -- heather: what is next? >> the defense bill was objected to, there was a procedural vote monday evening on some nominations. mitch mcconnell said they would keep the senate in session for the first two week of the schedule recessed to deal with nominations and to have an agreement to move to the defense bill. todd: gop leaders back to the drawing board. heather: democrats are celebrating, at the nation's capital with what happens next. >> reporter: we heard chad talking about what happened next but we will talk about what happened immediately after republicans failed on that 7-year promise, the president took to twitter tweeting three republicans and four americans

it was a tie vote 50-50. 48 democrats plus those 2 republicans and 50 republicans on the other side. that was 50-50 and then that became 51-50 in the republicans' favor when the expert tie breaking vote came in from the vice president. when that happens, the immediate response in the room was this, which was not at all normal. >> motion to proceed. [ kill the bill ] >> that does not happen in the senate chamber. that happened today. the protests that started inside the senate chambers spilled out to the main lobby and onto the balconies and doctors and medicaid and recipients and constituents of the senators chanting no cuts to medicaid. >> many people using wheelchairs coming from all over the country and refused to leave. police arrested those adapt protesters one by one as they were removed from the capitol. they were cheered on from protesters on the upper floors of the senate, officer building. when all is said and done, more than 90 people were arrested at the capitol today. what republicans actually passed on the senate floor was a start on a 20 hours debate on a healthcare bi

he is leading the republicans.to talk about the bill, they gave speeches on why the bill should be voted down. when it was the republicans' turn, ensy has been the only speaker. he's been in charge of the conversation the entire time. there's been a number of times when democrats asked if they could ask a question, part of the procedure on the senate floor. they're able to do that. because enzi has the floor, he can say he's not interested. and he has done that a number of times tonight. he has not been passion not on his speech here. laying out what he believes the benefits of this bill and moving the process forward. eventually, he'll wrap things up. that's when we get to the voting. as i said before, we'll have two different votes here. don't get too focused on the first vote. that will be a vote that the democrats will offer up to send the bill back to a committee. that will certainly be voted down. then, we'll have the actual vote on what we're calling the skinny repeal. that's when we finally find out whether

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filed by democrats and republicans. amendments were by republicans and of the 210 amendments, 160 of the amendments were passed and there of things that made a lot progressives very upset, like public option off the table. i'm frustrated with the process democrats, we need to stand up and let the truth be known. guide just like to everybody to an article from 2010, back the g.o.p. on health care reform by ethan sherwood straus, in article from of 2009 that says this is what bipartisanship looks like. thank you. host: to martha in virginia beach, virginia, good morning. good morning. is in an area which controlled by a hospital company called pantera, and they control and doctors tals offices and everything else, so how it is really going to affect this area, that is -- i feel for people who, you under this system because i have to go to all doctors and honest with you, i don't really think that is a good itself.system in thank you. host: thanks for calling. charles hurt of the washington times says, blame democrats who

a republican party where the cop, the farmer, working man would have a seat at the republican party table that would combine conservatives of all stripes, culture, fiscal, defense conservatives into one majority party. the republican party remains today despite reagan's advances what it's since great dpeciÓn. america's second place party. has fewer people that say they will belong to or support they ideals and say they will support the democratic party even as the gap has narrowed in the years after reagan. approach to which that means one should take to government that ronald reagan actually exhibited in his life. the reagan point is the most controversial, the high priest of reaganism that ronald reagan is little more than barry goldwater and the man dedicated of the overthrow of the new deal as goldwater and are today's libertarians. in fact, nothing can be further from the case. from the earlier days of conservative ronald reagan, exhibited fidelity to the core innovations of the new deal in the sense that government at local and state level, if necessary, but in federal level possibl

that's why republican governors in nevada and ohio and even illinois came out against the republican repeal plan. they know better. you can't use flexibility to make up the difference for basic health care for thousands of people you represent in your state. i want to reiterate what chuck said inclosing. we are ready to sit down and work with republicans to make the health care system stronger. take this tax cut for the rich off the table take these cuts , for medicaid off the table make a commitment to make sure , americans are going to have more health insurance and more affordable health insurance. >> senator murray. senator murray: it is no surprise that senate republicans need another week or two to try to jam their trumpcare bill through given everything it would mean for families health for their financial security and their own lives. we don't know what kind of backroom deals senate republican leaders are going to be talking about cutting over the next few weeks or which republicans will decide they care more about toeing the party line to protecting patients and families in

you will not get enough senators on the republican side with the 51 vote majority requirement and republicans who will not vote for any bill with defining planned parenthood. secondly, d. funding planned parenthood is now being questioned because of the miraculous discovery by the senate parliamentarian that would preclude them from leaving it in the bill. i don't blame that on the democrats. i think senator mcconnell is in a dilemma and he's got his finger all over that so he can remove d. funding of planned parenthood and get the votes he needs to pass the bill. >> all of that had on the bill. joe in louisiana honored democrats line. >> yes, this is joe. >> host: go ahead. >> caller: this is joe bradley. i was calling in on not just be half of the democrats, but calling in as a u.s. citizen and that we should, above this republican democrat craft and start thinking as americans. how could you your own as a man say that you could put these people out of health care insurance where there was people before affordable care act didn't have insurance and didn't know how they was going to get trea

to pass their health bill, right, why republicans with republican control of the house, republican control of the senate and a republican in the white house who would likely sign anything labeled health care, why these folks cannot pass the one thing they all agreed on and campaigned on, which was repealing obamacare. why can't they do it? i don't think it can be explained in washington. i think in order to understand that you might also look around at what is happening right where you live. for example, take the ninth district in virginia, represented by this guy, congressman morgan griffith. a republican congressman from virginia. he voted to repeal obamacare. his constituents say if the republican health care bill becomes law, 62,000 people in his district. 62,000 of his constituents will lose their health insurance. to help drive that point home, they made him a visual aid. this weekend, his constituents spent their sunday pieces together 62,000 pieces of paper. stapling them into a giant paper chain. every link in their paper chain represents a person in that district who they say wil