house republicans rejected mccarthy. house republicans rejected scalise. house republicans rejected jordan. house republicans have apparently rejected mchenry. this can only be done in a bipartisan fashion. and we're serious about partnering with house republicans in a reasonable way to do the business of the american people. reporter: -- [indiscernible question] mr. jeffries: we have not discussed concessions because our view is we want a partnership in the best interest of the american people. that simply requires the house to reopen and function in a bipartisan way so that bills that we know have support from republicans and democrats get up or down votes on the house floor and can't be blocked by a band of extremists on the hard right. that's all we want. that's a reasonable ask. can we govern in a bipartisan way to solve problems for the american people? it's not about the individual, it's about the interests of every day americans and integrity of our institution which house republicans have broken at this moment. reporter: two questions, have you he

republican voters where they on one hand do not want republicans versus democrats they want republicans to work together with a are not always thrilled with the leader republicans end up voting for so they have concerns about trump or whether they disliked mccarthy. again, the divide we are seeing with the republican leaders does seem to mirror and divide we see in republican voters as well who are uncertain what their priorities are, whether they are wholeheartedly in support of the former president or want to see a new direction, whether they want to see more moderate policies in the forefront. host: if johnson wins and steve scalise hold onto his position come it is up to louisiana. guest: louisiana will be holding a lot of power. host: let's go to mark in maryland, republican line. caller: the last caller that called and was saying republicans should vote in their own speaker. i agree with that. i do not fault the democrats for voting mccarthy out or not cooperating with republicans. i think the whole idea of the two parties collaborate with each other is kind of silly. the main rea

republican line. caller: this is an extreme maga republican.e got to get along but you're going to cause all kind of names. regarding the budget, why weren't you not reporting on this jamaal bowman, that went and pulled the fire alarm yesterday? when they were getting ready to call to adjourn. i want to know why you're not reporting on this. host: you might have missed it. we talked about it with reporter daniella diaz earlier in the segment. we're going to end it there. take a quick break.. next on "washington journal," martha mckenna and republican strategists mike ricci shutdown politics, campaign 2000 24, and other political news of the day and later, migration policy institute senior fellow muzaffer chishti discusses the increased in migrants at the u.s. southern border. and d biden administration recent move to allow nearly 500,000 venezuelan migrants to obtain work permits. ♪ >> author and media theorists, douglas rush called joyce book tv to talknd take caused by the consequences of the digital revolution. his 20 books includeresident s

democrats got out, republicans got on, republicans should be back in there. host: kayla, a democrat caller. caller: how are you? host: i'm well. caller: i was calling to say is it shouldn't matter if you're a republican or democrat. if the person is a republican and you're not for the people then you shouldn't be in there. it's all about the people, not your personal interests or whatever you got going on. that's my view. host: all right. delores, a republican. who do you want to be speaker for the republican party? caller: i think they should quit fighting aamong each other and vote for jim jordan. give him a chance. they gave everybody else a chance. give him a chance. host: why jim jordan? caller: because he knows what to do. host: what gives you that confidence that he knows what to do? caller: he's been there long enough. he's the people's choice. people like him. host: how do you know he's the people's choice? caller: he's my choice and that's all that matters to me. host: ok. all right, do lohrs re. dan in -- jan in philadelphia. clip hello. i want to

, center right republicans. the problem solvers caucus. i don't think they are there yet. i think it's probably more likely that they would come around and just give up and say, we'll go with jim jordan. he's too conservative for us but we'll have somebody in power, if not jim jordan, maybe somebody else. but i think they are getting closer. the longer this drags out, the longer it drags out with international crisis in israel going on. the longer it drags out as a presidential campaign starts to heat up, there is going to be a lot of pressure. i do wonder if we are getting close. not there yet. it's unfathomable until the day in which all of a sudden it becomes plausible. host: calls lined up for you. peter in new york. republican line. you are on with our guest michael warren of the "dispatch" go ahead. caller: mr. warren, i hope you can answer this question. first a comment. i was always suspicious of kevin mccarthy because he was an acolyte of paul ryan. paul ryan was totally against president trump building

there are 221 republicans at this point so there is not a lot of room for house republicans. host: team in alabama, lets you -- tim in alabama, let's hear from you. caller: about speaker of the house, with all of the chaos, the mage republic -- maga republicans and everything, i don't think anyone whether it is mitt romney or anybody else could go in and get the votes to be speaker of the house. the other thing is i would not be surprised if jim jordan has been in conversation with donald trump. he is going to keep running. it is wasting time when some other way of getting the house in order -- he is waiting time. host: let's pick up on that point because how does that help the republican party the 2024 election? are there republicans concerned about that? guest: there are republicans that are concerned about speaker jim jordan and swing districts with trump at the top of the ballot. house republicans are nervous heading into next year and there is fear that speaker jim jordan would cause some headaches to them when it comes to the campaign trail. host: aaron in huntsville, a

i know that the republicans, few republicans that were there helped create this mess. but if we can't decide on a speaker, this is embarrassing. if they can't decide on a congressman, a republican congressman to be speaker of the house, then maybe they need to look outside of the congress. host: i'll leave you there. we take you now to the house of representatives. the unitedtatehoofpresentives.any ud prohibed by the hou of pocal cs the speakeo orhe us will cerdthe prayer will be f aplain

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i know the republicans have fallen for many stupid tricks, but it is time for republicans to get together once and for all, get this speaker elected and get about the people's business. that is what we put you folks in there for and get our country back in shape. everything is a mace -- a mess under this president. name one thing going better today than it was when president trump was in and i will give you $100. to do that we have got to stop this. we have to unite the republican party get this country back on the right track again and get jim jordan speaker of the house today. host: 217 votes will be needed on the house floor to obtain the speaker's gavel. an internal replican conference meeting last week, 55 repuicans said they would not vote f jim jordan on the floor. he can only lose three today. if democrats stay in opposition, he will not have the speaker's gaffer -- speaker' gavel. yesterday, a trio of high-profile republicans we had no vote split to yes and did so publicly on the formerly known as twitter x platform. it seemed like momentum was in jordan's favor. mike rogers is o

divided into, so to speak, classical republicans and far-right republicans. yes, there is tom emer a representative of classical conservative republicans, he himself was also nominated and supported for this position by the former speaker of the house of representatives, kevin mccarthy. as for his position on ukraine, the organization. republicans for ukraine rated him excellent, that is, the highest score according to his voting for bills in support of ukraine. in fact, tom emer voted for all the bills in support of ukraine, to help ukraine, which were put to the vote. also, at the same time, despite the fact that he is, he has strong position in the conservative, classical part of the republicans, he actually has some confrontation with the far-right republicans. in particular. this is because tom emmer voted to accept the results of the election, the 2020 presidential election, which in fact the us media is said to have angered donald trump, who believes that the results of the 2020 election were allegedly stolen, and the us media itself claims , that tom

because they are -- they're not maga republicans. they are conservative republicans. host: all right, roy. let's listen to ralph norman talking to reporters on capitol hill. mr. norman: we have got to decide who we want as speaker. he's the designee now. for however long it takes. at the end they have day jim jordan will have to decide that. he has to decide what he wants to do. reporter: if he supports this, would that change your mind? mr. norman: no, whether he supports it or not i don't think it's the right way. reporter: do you think giving him two more months to get the votes is ok. mr. norman: his time is now. reporter: but you had another speaker designee. mr. norman: jim jordan is the right man for the right time to do the right job. he's the only one that's gotten 199 or 200 votes. it's up to him to get the 17 others. i think he probably will. i have another meeting. reporter: what about having a temporary speaker while this plays out. mr. norman: the speaker drama isn't going to continue. host: ralph norman, republican of south carolina there saying, it sou

republicans are huddling. he just told reporters as all of you heard that 2/3 of that conference he predicts is opposed to this resolution of giving speaker pro tempore patrick mchenry temporary powers to get the house up and running again. legislation on the floor. he said 2/3 of the conference not in favor of the idea. however, supporters of it and opponents are talking about it right now. and he also said he thinks democrats would vote for t we haven't heard from democrats yet on that. stan in new hampshire. we are taking your reactions to this story on capitol hill. the speaker election. what do you think? stan, you with us? ok, we'll go on to patricia waiting in georgia, democratic caller. caller: yes. host: hi. caller: hi. how are you doing? host: fine. what do you think about all this? caller: i think -- i would like to say i don't know why they picked him. he's one of the most divisive congressmen. he's never voted for anything. passed anything in 16 years. so why pick him? host: patricia talking about

republicans are in disarray. it has been said many times before, but it is official, with him being gone as leader, it shows that even those regularly coming to his side no longer believe he has what it takes to lead republicans into what will be a very, very contentious and tough and pivotal election here for the republican party as a whole -- election year for the republican party as a whole. i know mccarthy has a secret list he sort of worked out of people he wanted to succeed him. i think a lot of people within the republican caucus are still reeling from the shock, but when they look within, they may find one of their own, like the head of the republican caucus in the house. she is a millennial female from upstate new york, and she may be seen as someone who can continue a steady hand, but again, a lot remains to be seen at this moment. >> it certainly does. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> the judge in former u.s. president trump's multi-civil fraud trial has moved to prevent verbal attacks

republican tim cane. all three republicans are in challenging districts, swing districts. we are going to listen to george santos talking to reporters. >> that's up to jim jordan and for time to. i think he should stay in and the conversation should be had. it comes down to the point of if we don't have a real family conversation, the tough ones we have at thanksgiving dinner. not shouting, no disrespect. ask questions that haven't been asked. thanks, guys. host: george santos on his way into the republican meeting and see if we hear from more of them as they make their way behind closed doors. karl from north carolina, democratic caller. caller: i don't think he cares about anything. they should go empowering -- [indiscernible] host: you are a little muffled and i'm going to leave it there. ralph norman. [indiscernible] mr. norman: we profoundly support mr. jordan. he has been true to his word. everyone's got an opinion but we are strongly voting for jordan and told him that on the floor. keep voting unt

republican. i am right now independent. i did not intend to vote for any republican in any office. host: part of his trip was going to include meeting with arab leaders and then the leader of the palestinian authority canceled his meeting with the president after the hospital blast that killed, according to reports, 500 people. there are headlines of happening -- of what is happening in the middle east. the washington post, "in the north hezbollah missiles flight and civilians flee. israel is preparing for conflict on that side of its border with lebanon." you have this in the world news section of the wall street journal, "muslim world angered after explosions. they are seeing widespread protests in the middle east." president biden yesterday addressing the escalating tensions in the region after the violence of the past several days. here's what he had to sit. [video clip] pres. biden: you cannot look at what happened here to your fathers, mothers, grandparents, even babies and not scream out f

the time for republican gamesmanship is over, the time for republican partisanship is over.he time for republican brinksmanship is over. enough of the chaos, enough of the dysfunction, enough of the extremism. let's come together in a bipartisan way to get back to doing the business of the american people. questions? >> leader jeffries, what conversations, if any, have you had with speaker johnson so far and specifically about the ukraine funding? he did not make any commitments when we pressed him on this yesterday. he said he wants it to be conditional, that he has reservations about it. did he give you any assurances that he supports additional funding for ukraine? rep. jeffries: i had a brief conversation with speaker johnson yesterday, but we did not talk about ukraine funding. i do expect to have a conversation with him today at some point later on this morning or this afternoon. and i do expect that in the context of that conversation, the urgent need to support the ukrainian people will come up. supporting ukraine is the right thing to do in terms of the brutal aggre

i'm a republican and # 2 years old and voted republican all my life. i am now going to be an independent because of all the infighting in congress. it's embarrassing and not doing america's will. and i thank you for listening. host: reporter adding to the mix of tweets coming from reporters. that representative dan crenshaw worried that the designee and socializing to change the rules on the floor to require a plural atlanta versus a majority. caller: they want to be able to speak for both parties and the people of the united states. when i hear that jordan are wanting jordan in there, he is basically wanting to shut down the government and unfair and i'm thinking that all the democrats want to do is to have somebody that will listen and able to work together to making it happen. i think the pro tempore speaker should be in there and leave him in there. that's it. host: carry in indiana, independent line. caller: i have been a democrat for many years but voting independent for the last several years. my opinion is the speaker of the house needs to be -

karla in wayne city, illinois, republican. caller: i have been watching this since mccarthy back when he was running and said he would not cross party lines and do what he could for the american people. and past two times c.r.'s made a deal with joe biden and against the party and decided to go for the c.r. and crossed party lines. so, to me, i think it is a good thing that matt gaetz called to vacate the chair because i agree with him. everything should be appropriately and do the bills one at a time and should never be any c.r., period. host: who should the republicans elect as their speaker if not kevin mccarthy. caller: steve scalise is good. jim jordan, byron donalds. there are several that would be good. i can't seeing. mccarthy did what he did and when they made promises, you know the you write checks that your butt can't cash, that's what happened. host: all the names karla mentioned are in support of kevin mccarthy. our independent line. caller: i'm a true independent and voted for green party and will vote for cornel

i'm a former republican, lifelong family of republicans. i am now an independent. i used to believe the leaders in thinking they were putting country over party all the time. the reason i wanted to call in is caution all listeners, democrats, republican, independents, people who don't always listen to c-span pay attention what they are being told even by the leaders in office that you think you respect or think putting country over party. mike johnson he voted against the certification of joe biden. he comes a little less aggressive than jim jordan. jim jordan is in your face. he has a history. but mike johnson is under the radar but has hit my news wire. i have heard reports of him being slightly more clever than others trying to figure out a different way to dessert file the election. host: let's hear from john in illinois. time is short, john, jump in. caller: mike johnson is going to do a great job as speaker of the house. and hakeem jeffries needs to take his 212 votes go home and cry like a baby and trump doesn't need to get involved with this. he has his own

but we are back here 22 days into this republican manufactured chaos and house republicans have brought us to the exact same position that we were back then. all of the infighting, all the disarray, just to end up where we were three weeks ago. these past few weeks we have been left wondering if republicans were truly intent on solving our issues, reopening the house of representatives and rallying around someone to lead this chamber. or has this been about something else? has this been a focus of house republicans to find the person who can pass their extreme litmus test to oppose marriage equality, enact a nationwide abortion ban without exceptions, gut social security and medicare, and support overturning a free and fair election. a fair question. a fair question. nowhere in that candidate questionnaire is it about growing the middle class, helping our communities, keeping the cost of health care lower, and making life for everyday americans better. the gentle woman said it right. this has been about one thing. who can appease donald trump? house republicans have put their names behi

the reason is because the house republicans are quite split on this because republicans, in order to give mchenry more power, in order to get the basic business of functions of the government done, they will need democratic support. and that is a very divisive notion inside the house republican conference. >> yeah. the idea that you would have the majority in the house and then have essentially a coalition government with democrats to have to run it is not something that a lot of republicans in the house or a lot of republican voters would want to have happen. but that's where the eight people who overthrew kevin mccarthy have put the republican party. a majority party in numbers, but not a majority party in function. so functionally right now because of the close nature of the house and these eight people, it's hard to argue that the republicans have a functioning majority. if you're a republican voter out there or a donor or somebody who wants to see republicans do well, you have to be incredibly disappointed. now the larger american people may say maybe they should work together.

republican line. caller: this is an extreme maga republican.e got to get along but you're going to cause all kind of names. regarding the budget, why weren't you not reporting on this jamaal bowman, that went and pulled the fire alarm yesterday? when they were getting ready to call to adjourn. i want to know why you're not reporting on this. host: you might have missed it. we talked about it with reporter daniella diaz earlier in the segment. we're going to end it there. take a quick break.. next on "washington journal," martha mckenna and republican strategists mike ricci shutdown politics, campaign 2000 24, and other political news of the day and later, migration policy institute senior fellow muzaffer chishti discusses the increased in migrants at the u.s. southern border. and d biden administration recent move to allow nearly 500,000 venezuelan migrants to obtain work permits. ♪ >> author and media theorists, douglas rush called joyce book tvo talk and take caused by the consequences of the digital revolution. his 20 books include president

, the republican hold outs. again, that is not making it any easier for any of these republicans to flip. if anything, a number of colleagues, who are, you know, probably going to vote against jordan in more future rounds are hearing this and also very concerned that this kind of pressure campaign is happening and do not think speaker jordan would be someone who would be helpful in this case because this is just a show of how jordan and his team would govern as speaker. that is really concerning to a number of republicans. host: ms. sotomayor, before we let you go, what is the likelihood the house reconvenes today at some point to take this next step? guest: that is the question of the hour. maybe for the next couple hours. it's very much unclear as we saw yesterday the house remained in recess and then jordan later in date decided he wasn't going to go to the floor again. as much as he and his team keep saying that's what they are going to do, we don't know. it's quite possible they come back to the floor today

that is one reason why republicans are very intent on trying to settle this internally within the republican conference before heading to the house floor and potentially having another multi-ballot, public speakership election. they do not want a repeat of what happened in january. they want to figure that out behind closed doors. host: if you want to ask questions about the process as it plays out, (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. text us at (202) 748-8003. emily brooks, representative jordan was on the sunday shows yesterday. made the case for himself about the support he thinks he seems to be getting. we will get your response to it. [video clip] >> steve scalise is asking colleagues -- can you give us a sense of whether or not you have those votes? >> we have got amazing feedback, incredible feedback from our colleagues across the spectrum in the republican congress. we've got conservatives, more moderate members, three committee chairman. i feel good about that support. it boils down to those fundamental questions. who can unite

this is the republican party. this is the party that donald trump is the runway frontrunner in for president of the united states, 70% of the republican voters are also election deniers and believe there was something amiss in the last election, so he really reflects the base of the party, and that's point number one. point number two, is the first principle for most legislators -- and i love adam kinzinger because he was willing to do his duty and put it ahead of his own political well being, that is unusual. there's a reason why the book "profile in courage" was a slim volume. that's not what politicians do. they calculate what they need to do to remain practicing politicians and get re-elected. the pressure campaign while it may not succeed for jordan has been effective. 55 against him going into the weekend and you've got a little more than a dozen now. now, he may not get there, and as kasie hunt mentioned before, there are members there who are institutionalists and moderates and care very much about the app

a lot of republicans are saying. there's going to be a decision that has to be made here by some of the people who are pushing the idea of elevating patrick mchenry. there's a privilege resolution in the house that can be introduced that can actually force this issue on the floor. that has not been officially introduced yet. part of the issue is because there's still speak's race on going. so there's parliamentary hurdles they have to overcome. if that could force this issue on the floor and make the members take a position. that would not be surprised. this is where that is headed because there's no way out of the situation, no candidate can get 217. jim jordan certainly cannot. a lot of republicans who are supporting the idea of elevating patrick mchenry say that is where this is going to end up. but we'll see how long it takes to get there, and if the republicans relent sayeeing there's no end in sight to the crisis they caused. >> manu raju, thank you so much. appreciate it. right now for those at home, what's go

washington is a democrats republican, donald trump, the maca republicans -- maga republicans. nothing substantial for the american people. guest: there are certain -- certainly in number of concerns americans have in situations we are living through right now. inflations are high. many people are hurting. part of that comes through the devastating pandemic that uprooted the endemic. all of the -- uprooted the epidemic. those concerns are being heard. we will see how those various concerns that you laid out play, 2024 at the -- played out in the 2024 election. caller: good morning. that sweet gentleman just spoke. he is a wonderful man. god bless him. he speaks the truth. the, this morning was about a previous caller who said that mike johnson --. host: we are not hearing you clearly. you are going in and out. i'm going to have to ask you to call back on another line. joyce. portland, oregon. independent. caller: can you hear me? host: we can. caller: i have a question for the men of they are. mike johnson, so he made it as speaker but he is also a -- person. if you want to thr

republican. caller: yes, i was calling y'all just to say this, that i believe that instead of the republicans and democrats, you know, nominating two different people for -- to be speaker, i think it should be, you know, we the people that should be electing the house speaker just like we elect the president. host: how do you think that would work? caller: well, i'm -- i'm not too sure but i do female that very strongly. because the republicans cannot, you know, get their stuff together to even elect a house speaker. host: it's been, as we said, two weeks without a house speaker for the u.s. house of representatives. two weeks ago, eight republicans voted to ouster kevin mccarthy from that top post. today, 20 republicans voted against jim jordan getting that spot. tina in mansfield, texas. hi, tee nasm. caller: hello. i just wanted to say number one, i want to thank my representative, jake ellzey for not voting for jim jordan. ok. that restored my faith in politics. number two, i don't know how j

washington is a democrats republican, donald trump, the maca republicans -- maga republicans. nothing substantial for the american people. guest: there are certain -- certainly in number of concerns americans have in situations we are living through right now. inflations are high. many people are hurting. part of that comes through the devastating pandemic that uprooted the endemic. all of the -- uprooted the epidemic. those concerns are being heard. we will see how those various concerns that you laid out play, 2024 at the -- played out in the 2024 election. caller: good morning. that sweet gentleman just spoke. he is a wonderful man. god bless him. he speaks the truth. the, this morning was about a previous caller who said that mike johnson --. host: we are not hearing you clearly. you are going in and out. i'm going to have to ask you to call back on another line. joyce. portland, oregon. independent. caller: can you hear me? host: we can. caller: i have a question for the men of they are. mike johnson, so he made it as speaker but he is also a -- person. if you want to thr

it was a republican argument. the concern of the economy part of it can go back to history and you will find out how the republican party how'd just how they diss a mental the -- they dismantled the economy and the democrats had to repair it. i would suggest that republicans have an argument within their own party. it's deafly not the democrats arguing -- argument now and i think hakeem jeffries should be the house speaker. host: what are the chances of that happening? guest: not high. hopefully he will be speaker in 2025. he has incredible grace and capacity since he become the democratic leader. i want to reflect them one other thing. i think democrats field kevin mccarthy did a bad job. he capitulated to the extremist in his party and was unable to keep things on an even keel and did something that was unprecedented and threatening to blow up the economy with the debt ceiling and use another extreme tactic in the last few weeks of shutting the government down. this was not slow and steady and sober leadership.

but he will not have 218 republicans. that is the magic number. who can get 218 republican votes? at the moment, nobody. especially if mccarthy runs again. so many questions about what is next. mccarthy is not answering questions. he's meeting with his advisers, close allies in his office at the moment. we'll see if he makes himself a candidate for speaker, if he's ready to fight it out. but a lot of these members just don't want to give matt gaetz a scalp. they don't want to give him a victory. they are furious at gaetz. they believe he has thrown this institution into disarray, and the last thing they want to do is give him a victory. but that can only mean if mccarthy runs, things will be bogged down and paralyzed for some time. >> so the republicans could be meeting tonight, this evening. could you just talk about what you are hearing from democrats about the democrats' decision not to throw a lifeline to kevin mccarthy? >> reporter: yeah, this was an interesting moment, because we have been reporting up until today about the deliberations that were happening behind the scenes

that's mccarthy's influence in republican politics. realize that what they did was actually throw out a guy who actually helped them get to the majority in the first place without a plan forward, that to me says to susan's point, they have no plan for governance. they don't understand how to do it, and then even in asking democrats to help them out shows you the kind of desperation that we're talking about. >> i mean, on one hand you're hearing from republicans like we don't like, we don't want to work with democrats at all. we have the majority in the house. we need to do this amongst each other but won't even compromise within their own caucus, susan. do you think that the demands, the desires of the eight republicans who voted to oust speaker mccarthy are realistic in any way? will they get what they want in a new speaker? >> absolutely not. they cannot be moved off of this position. and let's be clear. the only member -- the member of congress with the most votes for speaker is actually hakeem jeffries. his whole conference is real

house democrats, house republicans, senate democrats, senate republicans and president biden. so -- so why have we spent the last several weeks here in the house of representatives trying to break that agreement and threaten a reckless government shutdown? which by the way will have catastrophic consequences for the american people. we want the american people to know that we are going to do everything possible to stop extreme maga republicans from shutting down the government. we are fighting on their behalf to put people over politics. that's why we're here. that's why we're making this fight. and we want to do it in a bipartisan way. so we're in the process of evaluating the legislation that was dropped on the american people at the 11th hour. and once we conclude that expeditious review of the four corners of the legislation, we can make a decision as to the best path forward. when we have said all week that the only path forward is a bipartisan one, a bipartisan bill working its way through the senate right now. senate democrats and senate republicans coming together to m

or leaders on the republican side? rep. jeffries: i have no meetings planned with mchenry, but high level members on the democratic side of the aisle are ready, willing, and able to have those conversations. >> when you say a bipartisan solution, does that mean that five or six republicans should vote for you or are democrats willing to vote for some kind of republican? rep. jeffries: we have not from the very beginning of this congress made this about any one individual on the republican side of the aisle and certainly not on the democratic side of the aisle. house democrats want to be reasonable here. we respect elections. we were disappointed that we failed to hold on to the house in november of 2022. but we're not election deniers. we did overperform, we defied the rules of political gravity in a midterm election in a president's first two years in office. but the republicans now hold the gavels. we recognize that, we respect that. but the republicans are unable to function on their own right now. so there's only two pa

it was conservative republicans fighting with extreme republicans. i think they've got to get their house in order. if they cannot come together around a single speaker i would encourage patrick mchenry, who is a decent guy, is someone i think a lot of us respect, i would tell him to reach out to leader jeffries and see if there is a way for us to come together and maybe cut a deal and get back to regular functioning. host: could you elaborate your thinking on that? guest: i think we would all like to write real appropriations bills. we would like to honor the debt ceiling deal that speaker mccarthy -- ex-speaker mccarthy now, negotiated with president biden. that is what the senate is going to do. you are watching the senate operate in a bipartisan way. at the end of the day in a divided congress, where the house has a republican majority, you're going to have to negotiate. so why not start the process there? maybe you look at some democrats that are supporting a republican speaker. host: our guest with thousand 10 9:00. if you want to ask him a que

maga republicans. these are the people who really have the heart of the patriots and the american people who want to see a change. if you want to change something, you've got to change something. mccarthy was weak. ok. the only ones i would rather seo see trump as speaker. wouldn't it be security for the american people to know that our former president was third in line to make the decisions that knead to be made right now with our world in such upheaval bawd of the biden administration. host: ok. that's dee ann there in arkansas. again, anybody can be nominated to become speaker of the house. doesn't necessarily have to be a member of congress. most likely will be a member of congress. you've probably seen that play out over the last few, couple of weeks as this process has played out. democrats line, sheryl in virginia. hello. caller: hi, good morning. i'm so concerned for what i'm hearing. are people absolutely brain dead when they say they support jim jordan? the man denies the last election. he h

the republican is not a party. if we were in europe, the republican party would be three or four parties and they would go there separate ways and negotiate coalition agreements. in the house you can count on my colleagues who say there are five parties but no one is ever negotiated a coalition agreement. nate come in, other problems should be hammered out but because they haven't acknowledged the truth, they say this percent doesn't support my values. you should have thought about that a year and a half ago when you were organizing the house and those are the discussions we are seeing on the floor come in private discussions, all of the stuff that should've been handled 18 months ago. host: you talking about the five families as they are described, going back to mafia terms. guest: they have been going to the mattresses for weeks. host: a member said there could possibly be a name out there that would emerge. you think there is some coalition that could take place? guest: all the initial signs is the vast majority

do you think republicans join -- how many republicans join gaetz in that motion to vacate? >> no, i don't think that was a lack of confidence in the speaker's leadership. we have a lot of people in our conference who have never voted for a cr. that's their prerogative. that's their right as elected representatives of their districts. but we have to work together as a team. we have 221 republicans. we need 218 votes to pass legislation through the house floor. putting a motion to vacate forward in defiance of conference rules, which requires a majority of the majority -- so, you know, i hear matt constantly talking about the need to follow regular order, follow conference rules. kevin mccarthy lied, he violated this, violated that. matt gaetz voted against the choice for speaker of the conference. he voted to take down rules. and now he's putting a motion to vacate on the floor in defiance of conference rules, which require asthma joe torre of the majority. so, you know, this is a guy who says one thing out of one side of his mouth and speaks another thing out of the other s

, in the republican party.ou say the specter of trump, let's talk about the reality of trump because what you have here and i know a lot of people like to call him president trump. he is actually now defendant trump. have members of congress who rather than vote for what is right are only concerned about making sure that donald trump allows them to keep their seat. when you start talking about different factions the party, a lot of guys might believe one thing. 10 guys might feel another way but the crux of the matter is you've got 40 or 50 of them who will stand on and they have their own network, they will stand on television and tell you that what they support is a lie and it is documented that it is alive that is 2.5 years down the road. when you start talking about picking a speaker, there is no hope for them picking a speaker. guest: it is an indication of the divisions i am talking about. you have anywhere from ultra maga to the quintessential northeastern moderate. there are clearly diehard trump loyali

these are all republicans.se are republicans who have either indicated opposition to jim jordan, an intent to vote against him on this first ballot, or who haven't said anything. some of them we expect will end up being with jordan. they just haven't made public pronouncements. the list we have got here is nearly 60 members long. it's going to be very interesting to see how many of these nearly 60 republican names you see here actually do publically vote against jim jordan on this first ballot. in terms of the math, the way this works here is, to become the speaker of the house, you need a majority of all members who are present in the chamber and critically who cast a ballot for somebody by name. they are called upon. they could vote for anybody they want. they could also vote present. if they vote present, it affects the math. coming into today, there are 221 seats held by republicans. 212 seats that are held by democrats. there's news that one florida republican, who is a supporter of jim jordan, will be abs

republicans will be split. in order to change the rules and raise the threshold from one to whatever, you will need democratic support. what do democrats do. is that another tough call for hakim jeffries, who really faced his biggest leadership test when he faced that decision and convinced all democrats to say that is their problem. we will not save their speaker. host: how will the spouts happen? when could we first see a vote? guest: the first vote is for speaker, the second for the rules package. we will have the speaker look first, then potentially rules. where there is a will, there is a way and you can look them. but we are in uncharted territory. but it is getting late in the week for congress. they will have this behind the scenes vote tomorrow. that is wednesday. usually they get out of here on thursday. maybe they will stay until friday, but i doubt that. they may just try to come back next week. the longer this goes on, the more embarrassing it is to republicans. guest: in january, the house usually

that the republicans are playing. and let's work together and become america and let's make america great. host: thank you, denise. reporter michael shnell tweets out that mchenry says it's his expectation the g.o.p. conference will meet tomorrow he didn't commit to having a noon vote but says, quote, we wanted to have the option to go to the floor. asked why they wouldn't go to the floor, he said, lot of reasons. this is in the speaker-designate's hands. vicky in highway. give us your views. caller: i think it's an atrostism i think it's smaw. and abslutly it's all when donald trump got elected. he's ruined, absolutely ruined the world and people, you better wake up. do you not believe in god? host: that's vicky in ohio. a couple of texts. jim in illinois. comment on the results of second speaker's vote. i am extremely pleased that a small number of republicans continue to reject jim jordan. jordan's hard line antics disqualify him without a doubt. jordan is a thug without integrity. that's jim in illinois. this is c

this is a republican-on-republican debate and fight over who their leader should be. democrats are just sitting back and listening to it. >> although it is interesting to see -- david chalian, you remarked on this -- some of the most self-styled rebellious members of congress -- we see congressman tom massie there of kentucky. we saw jim jordan of ohio, really embracing the establishment right now even if they voted against, as jordan did, the continuing resolution that speaker mccarthy put forward on friday. >> i think it shows you how small the gaetz faction is, small but sufficient, obviously, given the narrow majority that karth is working with here. when you see massey and jordan are perfect examples, but when you see folks who had nothing to do with the sort of establishment inside the republican conference be with the establishment, you know you've isolated to a very few, just a handful that are causing this moment. the problem for kevin mccarthy is the math there. the small handful is enough. >> all you need is five house republicans to join with all the democ

maga republicans have one nothing. but we will find ourselves here in 45 days, if not sooner, as the congress tries to find a long-term solution to this. for now,, though there is no government shutdown, as we had all been bracing for and certainly, the white house. let's cross back over to monica alba. monica, my sincerest apologies to you for interrupting you, but we just wanted to hear the majority leader there speak. about the passage of this bill. and let's just go back to the point that we were saying and as i was concluding, those comments, that the white house and i think, most of us who are following this, we're bracing ourselves for a government shutdown. that now clearly has not happened. it will not happen. give us the insight of what the white house is thinking about the passage of this specific short term funding bill. obviously, on one hand, they are going to welcome it because it is not a shutdown of the government. but is it also a victory in terms of what they were hoping to get? >> well, i think ther

aguilar: it's up to republicans to pick their leader. i can tell you i think some of us have a friendly conversations with steve scalise occasionally. he's viewed as the more affable member that we could have conversations with. i personally think from my perspective as a member of the january 6 committee that jim jordan is dangerous to our democracy. i have said that before. his inability to answer questions related to a lawful subpoena poses institutional concerns. but this is something that republicans are going to have to worry about. one thing i am confident is that hakeem jeffries will have the votes of the democratic caucus when we are asked to nominate the next speaker. thank you so much. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2023] mr. meeks: when we look what the republicans are doing with the reference to the speaker. the world is looking at it. we supposed to be the examples of democracy. democrat state's at stake all over the planet. that's what ukraine is about. that's what part of what israel is about. standing

no republicans. during those 40 years in the minority, republicans forgot how to be speaker of the house, as every republican speaker, up to and including kevin mccarthy, has now proved each of them failed and gave up the speakership one way or another. there are now two candidates running to be the next republican speaker of the house. the winner will also fail as speaker of the house. the youngest member of the house of representatives, maxwell frost, joins us, next. with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ahh, -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein 30 grams protein, one gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients for immune health. (♪♪) i was stuck. unresolved depression symptoms were in my way. i needed more from my antidepressant. vraylar helped give it a lift. adding vraylar to an antidepressant... is clinically proven to help relieve overall depression symptoms... ...better than an antidepressant alone. and in vraylar clinical studi