during the past two centuries and identifies republican party as a source of everything that's wrong with this country it is a book what's the matter with kansas documents the rise of conservative populism and what it means for the future of america the rise of the tea party and the troubles in american politics today as writers are more important than ever joining me now in the studio thomas frank thomas welcome it is good to be here neal thank you the republican party has been around for two so i don't know that's. you know i wouldn't blame everything on them i come from kansas everyone's a republican i help used to be a republican you know and there's a lot of good republicans in the world like that is the public and robert let's follow up with a republican. the guy that i swiped the title of what's the matter of kansas for it was a republic. there's a lot of good republican fat is stevens was you know he was the head of the radical republicans faction of eight hundred sixty eight i think wrote the fourteenth amendment and and abe lincoln lest we must now it's the conservati

so the republican party held itself and billed itself as the white man's party. here you have abraham lincoln and he is debating steven douglas in that famous 1858 senatorial campaign. the republican party's slogan that year was vanquished the twin despotisms, catholicism and slavery. again, going hand-in-hand. now i should tell you in full disclosure that abraham lincoln was not a religious ticket. went back to hated religious bigotry that but he swallowed the republican party line, because it was very effective among the republican party base. if you know you have heard politics, get out the base, get out the base. the republican party base were partisan workingmen and the cities and they were prophets in the small towns and farms across the northeast new england and the midwest. this resonated to this constituency and anti-catholicism. linking campaigns lincoln campaigned under that slogan and 1858. >> you can watch this and other programs on line at booktv.org. >> we asked, what are you reading this summer? here is what you had to say.

so the republican party billed itself as the white man's party. now, here you have abraham lincoln, and he's debating stephen douglas in that famous 1858 senatorial campaign. the republican party's slogan that year was vanquish catholicism and slavery. and going hand in hand. now, i should tell you in full disclosure that abraham lincoln was not a religious bigot. in fact, he hated religious bigotry, but he swallowed the republican party line because it was very effective among the republican party base. you know, you've heard in the politics get out the base, get out the base. the republican party base were protestant working men in cities and farms across the northeast, new england and the midwest. and this resonated to this constituency, this anti-catholicism. and so lincoln campaigned under that slogan in 1858. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> and booktv is at books expo america, the annual publishers' convention in new york city looking at some of the fall 2011 books that are coming out, and we're pleased to b

i think there's been a tension with the republican party. one of my responses among many about our involvement in libya is after rwanda we said never again. gadhafi's forces were at the city of 700,000 people and he promised he would go house to house and kill anybody he thought opposed him. that's why, one of the reasons why we intervened. not to mention the blood of 90 some americans as a result of bombing of 103. the fact he has been involved in acts of terror and if he survived, he would again. that and other reasons clearly indicate it is in the united states' national security

raging debate going among conservatives about whether there is a new isolationist strain in the republican party. john mccain, who is critical of the president for not coming to congress for approval but a strong supporter of our actions in lip libya, has wondered whether the republican presidential candidates might move off in that direction. libertarians like ron paul in the house and his son rand paul in the senate taking a position that we haven't be-- america shouldn't be involved abroad unless we're under direct threat. so you've got that. on the democratic side there's a long-standing strain of anti-war sentiment that is tempered, of course, because it is a democratic president but not tempered all that much and democrats in congress have grown increasingly unhappy because guantanamo is still open. the president has adopted some of the techniques that president bush used to deal with terrorist threats. there's afghanistan and iraq. and now libya. and we saw that reflected a little bit, along with the strong congressional prerogative >> brown: todd you mentioned hillary clinton trying to s

the republican party base were protestant working men in the cities. they were congressman's in the small towns and farms across the northeast, new epg land, and the -- england and the midwest, and this resinated to this constituency, and so lincoln campaigned under that slogan in 1858. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> "wild card" is the name of the book. the author is mark joseph. mr. joseph, what have we learned new about sarah palin in your book? >> i spent a chapter and a half on her religious background, the highest one has reached the height of american power. that's one of the untold stories of the rise of sarah palin, not just the rise of evangelical in america, but the background of politics. >> what's the significance of that background in your view? >> that's an open question what that means exactly, but she considers herself an evangelical coming from the tradition with the exception of john ashcarrot, that's the highest one american has reached in american power. >> is she still a factor in republican polit

i never thought i'd have to ask this question but looking at the presidential field from the republican party fifty thousand people. i there any real fiscal conservatives well first of all in full disclosure i have to remain completely neutral and i'm biased because tea party express has partnered with c.n.n. to host the first ever tea party presidential debate very exciting one a second that is september twelfth in tampa and i mean that itself is a testament to the strength of this movement look at what just what so tune in on the twelve and we'll find out who the fiscal conservatives are i mean and we believe that whoever the republican nominee and that's one thing i want to make you know clear here is that we're not here to start a third party we have two very viable parties that we need to work from within in change but i believe whoever the republican nominee is going to be they have to have the support of this movement we you know you were on the call there reporter. recently and i saw it i'm i'm a fan but i'm also a fan of what you're doing there and i'm. i really have to say when we'r

presidential debate for the republican party last night joining me now are teddy dooley of the george washington university college republicans and jack hunter the southern avenger gentlemen thank you so much for being with us tonight great to be here are you getting so for fans of ron paul we were it was quite exciting to see that he was not a bookend on this debate actually placed just to the right no pun intended of mitt romney but today you said that you you were pro quite surprised by bachmann's performance i think it's our first performance in debate i don't want to say that you know someone won a debate because these aren't really debates anymore but she certainly got the most out of it yeah i think the did she did she had the best starting to debate with her announcing that she filed the paperwork on the debate last night really got people riled up i was personally surprised that use the audience able to be engaged with her as much as she got people up and moving and you see that loud and definitely a supportive movement not only there but from members of our college republica

senator graham, within the republican party there is a growing debate about afghanistan as well. mitt romney, you say he's front-runner of the republican race and he says this about america's role in afghanistan during the debate this week. listen. >> i also think we've learned that our troops shouldn't go off and try to fight a war of independence for another nation. only the afghanis can win afghanistan's independence from the taliban. >> to which you said, he may be another jimmy carter. you said this about another republican. >> well, i said that the debate last night was more like jimmy carter than ronald reagan. if you think the pathway to the gop nomination in 2012 to get to barack obama's left on libya, afghanistan and iraq, you're going to meet a lot of headwind. this is not a war of afghan independents. this is the center of gravity against the war on terror, radical islam. it is in our national security interest to make sure the taliban never come back. if with we fail in afghanistan, they'll kill every moderate who tried to help us. no one will step up. it will destabi

been called the intellectual godfather of the tea party -- not a bad tight toll hang your hat on this primary season. the latest cnn poll of republicanson paul running second among announced and likely presidential candidates. high-flying for a candidate who three years ago finished with only 3% of the delegates needed to win his party's nomination. he says people used to laugh at him. they are not anymore. congressman ron paul is next. ♪ [ heather ] businesses need a reliable financial partner. one who can stay in sync with their moves. my job at ge capital is to get bobcat all the financial and business support they need. we provide financing for every bobcat dealer in north america. together, we've rolled out over 100,000 machines to small businesses all over the country so they too can grow. ♪ ge capital. we're there for bobcat every step of the way. ♪ >>> joining me now, republican presidential candidate, congressman ron paul. congressman, thank you very much for joining us. let's talk about a couple of things that were out there this week. the debt ceiling. the house rejected raising the debt ceiling in what seemed like a pressu

. >> this morning, the republican nominee gives a stern warning that his party is headed in the wrong direction. >> i want to send a message we can't move into an isolationist party. >> then after the republican debate, romney breaks out. bachmann shines and pawlenty stumbles. we'll size up the field in the "roundtable." and "good morning america's" robin roberts joins us with an exclusive interview, president obama on father's day. >> i have a huge advantage, i live over the store. at 6:30, no matter how busy i am for an hour, hour and a half, my only focus is them. >> announcer: live, from the newseum in washington, "this week" with christiane amanpour, starts right now. >> welcome to the program. and happy father's day. senator john mccain will join us in just a moment. but, first, some news since your morning papers. in japan, a new phase in the struggle to contain radiation at the crippled fukushima nuclear plant. workers will briefly open the main door to install a cooling system to avert another explosion. it's been three months since the reactor was swamped by that devastating

the dennis kucinich right resolution would actually pass and so you have to understand this republican party is not a disciplined party they were very disciplined going into the two thousand and ten election now they're polling in a lot of different directions and surely yes i can guarantee you there's a group of republicans who would gladly get together. and say anything we can do to defeat barack obama anything and that includes stirring up economic trouble but we have to understand there are also republicans who are very you know true believers in their responsibility in their duties and so for bame one. i'm not going to struggle through our but i would say olympia snow. is pretty limpy snowe susan collins yeah i get it maybe even and maybe even john boehner and what about dick lugar you know i know that a couple of these guys behave like you and here's all three but in the house of representatives harder but here's the here's the deal and this is the important thing to do john boehner this is all about john boehner this guy's got to grow up he's got to be an adult and he has going to hav

when he ran for a second term, brought in ed g improvement az, one of the top pollsters in the republican party, brett o'donnell who is one of the best forensic coaches in the rublican party, they are working with her very closely, they are preserving what has made her a national figure among certain americans, while trying to expand her appeal, and if you watched her on her sunday show performances over the weekend, if you watch her in the intervis she has done around her announcement today, he is extraordinarily skillful in choosing words and how she is presenting herself, the mainstream michelle bachmann peoe on the left will scream and howell this isn't who she is, she makes mistakes that -- they are tryingo put that in the past and she is trying to deflect and sand the rough edges off what is a follow dollar rising per, parizing persona to make her more acceable. >> rose:his is chris wallac onunday, roll the tap >> are you a flake? >> well, i think that would be insultinto say somhing like th, because i am a serious person. >> but you understand when i say that that is what the rap on you

been called the intellectual godfather of the tea party -- not a bad title to hang your hat on this primary season. the latest cnn poll of republicanshows ron paul running second among announced and likely presidential candidates. high-flying for a candidate who three years ago finished with only 3% of the delegates needed to win his party's nomination. he says people used to laugh at him. they are not anymore. congressman ron paul is next. they're backed by the superguarantee®? only superpages®. wherever you are, wherever you're going, you'll find the super business you need. so next time, let the good guys save the day. get the superguarantee®, only at superpages®. in the book ... on your phone or online. >>> joining me now, republican presidential candidate, congressman ron paul. congressman, thank you very much for joining us. let's talk about a couple of things that were out there this week. the debt ceiling. the house rejected raising the debt ceiling in what seemed like a pressure move as opposed to a final move. will there be a deal to raise the debt ceiling this month? >> well, i don't think anybody has an absolute answer t

so now we have a special interview as promised with brian miller chairman of the pima county republican party where the controversy stemming from the murder of jose graner by a swat team in a no knock raid has caused an interesting split within the party just in case you didn't see the footage let's play the clip of the attack one more time here. it seems that having taken a stand for this the chairman of the g.o.p. and in pima county our guest brian miller has caused quite a stir and almost a split or a rift in the g.o.p. and on one side or the establishment republicans who want a situation like this see guilty until proven innocent and are willing to tolerate this kind of violence by law enforcement officials on the other side or the constitutional republicans generally a younger group these days like our guest ryan miller stand up for the constitution and stand up for the core publican principles and stand up for what is right in the republican party and pima county brian thanks so much for being with us tonight thanks for having me appreciate it so you made a statement as the chair of the

honestly broker solutions and situations and have reasonable conversations exorcisms for the republican party. our ship of state is headed toward another financial crisis iceberg and republicans are at the helm why because since the financial crisis of two thousand and eight little has been done to reform wall street of its bad behavior and what little has been done republicans are now trying to undo at the end of last week the republican controlled house appropriations committee passed legislation that cuts funding for the critical government watchdogs in charge of making sure the financial crisis of two thousand and eight doesn't happen again that includes cutting the consumer financial protection bureau the republicans are doing a morning trying to do this and pledging to block anyone who president obama nominates to run that agency the republican bill also includes holding flat the funding for the securities and exchange commission even though that agency has a lot more responsibility under the wall street reform act so it's back to business as usual on wall street meanwhile canadian and

well that's right i mean the again the the philosophy of the republican party has power at all costs their country comes second in terms of what they believe is important and what they believe is most important is their own power and the american people know it was it is tragic but i think america is a strong country the american people are strong people i believe we're going to take the house back as a result of this i think the president will get reelected the senate will be tough because the math is against this but people around of this you know governor scott as a rating below twenty below thirty percent or governor walker in wisconsin would be would lose to the same person he beat before by seven points the government case that his ratings are way down i mean people are on to the fact that these are extremists that are way outside the american mainstream and they they serve really the corporate interests and not their own the republicans ran on the platform of peel and replace obamacare the affordable care act we've seen the repeal part that passed through the house of represen

there that's not what dominates the republican party anymore but i think she believes or her line it but in any case she wants to she says you know forty seven percent of americans don't make enough money to pay taxes we've got i mean it's a sad commentary that so many people are living in list of poverty federal tax i mean they're paying all kinds of the tax right federal income tax so she wants to raise taxes on working people and cut to the tune of millions taxes on the rich by doing it with capital gains tax so so paris hilton and people who live on investments or live on you know an inherited wealth to pay no taxes. here's where the foolishness of that is you hear a lot about that in the republican party and it's incredibly foolish it's an anti job strategy the problem with our tax policy is that we advantage tax investments in things like credit default swaps and cmos which is what brought down the economy in two thousand and eight and we disadvantage long term investments in things like research and development and biotech out actually one of the democrats who believes that we

approved it and they ask congress people know the democratic party is the people's party and the republican party is the party of special interests and it always has been the always will be nothing has changed time to shed some light on the wealth inequality in america and expose greedy corporate c.e.o.'s for their blatant robbery of the american dream and expose the republican party as their accomplice. as the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered visit our web site at samarra dot com. also check out our youtube page is a youtube dot com slash the big picture r.t. if you tube dot com slash thom hartmann and this entire show is available as a free video podcast on i tunes and don't forget the mocker see begins when you show up when you participate your it will sort of. wealthy british style.

it's against the lawn the republican party. mitt romney was just so courageous, he actually saidhe believes in science, oh god. and rush limbaugh said you're out of the party, pal. there go his courage. >> charlie: he suggested that he thought man contbuted to global warming. >> that's right, exactly. so wt is so disturbing is that, that we don't, we're not having an ult conversation about what are the real problems so my frustration withbama reallyflows from that, as david referred to is kind of passive leave from behind. i mean rorschach test. we all ran around the table barack obama, what comes to mind right now in the middle of this crises. i tell you it's a blank sheet of paper for me. no real strong sense of how he defines the problems, where he wants to go, what his bottom line is. so i really feel if you look at the last 15 years of american politics, if you are we had george w. bush at the reagan revolution to its logical extreme and beyond for tax cutting. then obama came in and took the fdr revolution to its logical e

nobody nobody in the republican party is saying that there's something wrong with what what's the deal why is it that the republicans stick up for their people the democrats don't. i don't know i think it's not that i think that the democrats need to bring up dinner more than they're bringing them up they need to ask the republicans why it's ok for better to remain in the senate when he actually did as he said break the law and in terms of moral principles and morality he has a diaper fetish i mean i was joking but now i'm thinking maybe it's the truth that the reason that people are so much more upset is that wiener is because maybe like they're disappointed that no action resulted from his text then and facebook ing i just don't understand why there's this standard i think that's what it is. it's a double standard i expect that from the republicans i guess i kind of expect that from the democrats but i'm really disappointed in them because they should be out there they're saying it's a distraction they're letting this be a distraction how hard is it to say i don't want to talk about

there's an inherent contradiction emerging within today's republican party for decades now republicans have been courting the religious right claiming to be the party of family values and morality and that courtship has paid off very well the polls but now as highlighted by the emergence of the tea party in the passage of ball ryan's budget plan republican party has embraced a new ideal one belonging to iran rand and atheist who despised religious morality and one religious organization the american values network has taken notice of this new direction in the republican party and they are please take a look at an excerpt from a video that the group released recently. i am god i don't have a religion it's a sign of a psychological rudeness i regretted as evil or evil where i could just. like most every other this in the contemporary american way of life judeo christian religion you scorn churches and the concept. of these accurate criticisms yet i am picky and i mean you know m r l e t m r allocate not based on faith. joining me now for more on this issue is there except executive direc

i think grassroots of the republican party, that comes across as offensive. >> the -- >> the republicans themselves aren't thinking people? >> there's a big market here. people think that the tea party is the entire republican party. john mccain won the nomination. a lot of moderates, a lot of independents. in new hampshire, a public primary. >> the thesis of your piece was his theory at the case at the movement is trying to fill a vacuum. in other words, why were republicans unhappy with the choices? >> david says, i reject the view. i have no idea how it will turn out. i reject the view that the republican party in the grassroots is so monolithic and unenlightened that nobody can come in and have that. the impact on history is -- i mean, look, not to -- not to beat on the same dead horse, but this is about making your case in a sense. we talk so much about the math and the path and the numbers and how' hess going to get there and get that constituency and that stitch web si. he's yet to go out. tim pawlenty is yet to go out. mitt romney has yet to go out to tell the people what they fe

>> well, first of all, first of all the republican party is more afraid of us than the democrat ing partythis movement is a direct result of people being fed up and angry with both political parties. >> stephen: but there weren't a lot of signs showing john boehner with a bone through his nose. >> this movement, people got fed up when bush was in office with the spending, and it's escalated, so people are coming, you know, to the movement and joining the movement because they want responsibility. >> stephen: i want to motivate people. >> people are motivatessed. >> stephen: i need to know how to motivate people the way you did. while people were frustrated with president bush, they weren't marching in the streets until obama was in. what could i tell my people that you told your people that changed everything? >> this has nothing to do with president bush or president obama. >> stephen: it doesn't matter who is in the white house. >> that's right. >> stephen: so why even have a president? why can't we just rule by mob? why can't we just chant in the street? >> it's the balance of power. i

when the debate and it's good talking points aside i think what best personifies the republican party is a little incident that happened in chattanooga tennessee who was there that republican congressman chuck fleishman he said without gas at a local gas station for the day part of a publicity stunt to call for more oil drilling so he cut a deal with local racetrack gas station was given a one day gas pumping good unfortunately make room for congressman fleishman the gas station had to send one of its actual employees just a louis home costing the us a day's paycheck as you can imagine he was and please take a look. no three was there as the congressman pumped gas and mingled with customers the mua says he's a johnson wanting to be there for the meet and greet cost him a day's pay i needed that shift. you know obviously i don't make one hundred sixty five thousand dollars a year so missing a day means a lot more to me. but isn't that what the republican party is all about today bells whistles and publish the stunts to make it look like they care about the working class but in reality

if you are asking the republican party about it. do you remember this guy? republican senator david vitter of louisiana? in 2007 david visit ere was busted for having solicited prostitutes through the d.c. madam. she was running a high end prostitution ring in washington, d.c. her phone number list got out and david vitter was identified by "hustler" magazine as being a client of the d.c. madam. his phone number appeared on her list five separate times. david vitter was a member of the house of representatives at the time. two of the phone call from the d.c. madam occurred during house voters. really. david vitter like mark sanford and like john ensign addressed the media. he acknowledged that he too had been cheating on his wife. this wasn't just cheating. soliciting a prostitute is illegal even in louisiana and in washington, d.c. but senator vitter who had proovsly called on bill clinton to resign for his affair david vitter decided that he was forgiven. decided to stay in office we had all the image on the look of his wife's face burned into our minds for

himself to be arrogant and insensitive and incompetent. >> could huntsman become the favorite of republican party? >> he could be the favorite of the establishment of the east coast, but he is too much in the middle. they call him rino, republican in name only. >> correction of the year was a poll in iowa where apparently he got 1% of the vote, and the correction was, i'm sorry, we are not -- it was not 1%, it was one of vote, one guy. he does not have a grass-roots constituency, let's put it that way. >> you sort of wonder if it huntsman is that it is to do a john anderson run, because i don't know how he possibly thinks he can get the nomination. >> the obama people are most apprehensive about jon huntsman -- >> of course, they should be. >> one of the three most successful governors and the country. >> he would be, but he is -- he isney's strategy -- running a general election campaign, the economy, and against obama -- >> you have to go against -- michele bachmann it could cause trouble for pawlenty in iowa. >> she could win in iowa because she lives next door, she is from iowa -- >> waterloo

daily caller welcome guys i would say the republican take a neutral take i'm not asking for the republican party it's fair and balanced here come the journalists not a republican always the most impressive thing about the debate last night he did of both of actually i don't know if there's anything overly impressive i wasn't awful but it wasn't superbly astonishing there was nothing that great that stuck out at me you know seemed it seemed to me that there was there was nobody drilled everything was soundbites and and surface stuff would you disagree that no it's certainly part of certainly that's true but part of it is the questioning the questioning they regarded thirty seconds for each question i don't know from watching c.n.n. but every time they went over or seemed to go over in the eyes of the moderator they they were brutally interrupted so nobody was given any more time it's terrible format it was really they tried to integrate new media it was so confusing with who makes those decisions c.n.n. you know you're going to say on this you know i think was totally c.n.n. but i don't know i do

and saying, look, there is a seismic shift going on in the republican party, often seen as the of the two parties when it comes to defense matter. is there that or this just specific to this president or this issue? afghanistan? >> i think we saw in the libyan debate a lot of republicans coming out against the good strategy in this case just for political reasons, resulting in an odd alliance between the anti-war left and the anti-obama right. that i think is pretty dangerous for the country. i think john mccain is correct to be concerned there are serious undercurrents of isolation that you see in candidates like jon huntsman moving forward here. so republicans are till luting an important part of their message. tim pawlenty is trying to restore it, and trying to distinguish himself as a strong supporter. it will be a debate in the republican party where under george bush or john mccain it wasn't really a debate. >> let me move you to the debt ceiling because that is occupying much of our time in washington. the president will meet with the minority, majority leaders from the

the entire republican party's platform is based on this single promise big government is public enemy number one and that promise has expanded to not only include the entity all over government but also average americans who work in government like mail carriers teachers food safety inspectors and see what i mean take a look at what caucus republican. grisman paul brown said just the other day in a radio interview. c.t.o. says well if we if we don't if we don't raise the debt limit it's going to put somebody people out of work i don't remember the numbers they used two hundred fifty thousand or something i will be put out to work with those complete government employees are put out of work there are a lot of government employees that need to go find a real job get real jobs used to be a time in america or if you talk that way about the government you can kiss your political career goodbye as republican president dwight eisenhower republican president dwight eisenhower said about new deal government programs back in one thousand fifty four of the letter he wrote to his brother he said

after the break a daily take out alive government bashing isn't anything new for the republican party actually dates back to the one nine hundred twenty s. . let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. beatable in one well. we have a government says they're very safe get ready because their freedom. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here sees some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry is a big issue. it's the good the bad of the very acrimonious way the ugly good the a.f.l. c.e.o. the nation's largest labor organization is putting the pressure on president obama to give consumer rights advocate elizabeth warren the job heading up a new consumer financial protection bureau if l. c.e.o. wrote a letter to president obama saying no matter who gets the recess appointment president obama republicans have made it clear they'll scream and holler this reflects the sorry state in our politics but it's also a historic opportunity to recess appoint

a republican party abandoned issues that were not constructive and moving the party forward growing itsm connecting with a lot of american voters. i was actually very pleasantly prized by the debate. it was a big improvement over the first one and we'll see more improvements to come. >> i think there are two republican races going on right now. one of them features a small field. it's the race to be sort of the establishment favorite on on republican side. default choice for people in the party that decide six or nine months from now they want to win in 2012. that's a competition between mitt romney and tim pawlenty and maybe john huntsman if and when he gets into the race. among them mitt romney clearly had the better debate. the other one is to be the candidate of the grassroots and to be the passionate ideological firebrand and i think michelle bachmann emerged as that candidate for now this past week. interesting to see the tension between those two groups as the campaign develops. it's potentially a good thing for romney if this is romney versus bachmann. >> i got to say i agree wi

a republican party abandoned issues that were not constructive and moving the party forward growing its base. you see them connecting with a lot of american voters. i was actually very pleasantly prized by the debate. it was a big improvement over the first one and we'll see more improvements to come. >> i think there are two republican races going on right now. one of them features a small field. it's the race to be sort of the establishment favorite on on republican side. default choice for people in the party that decide six or nine months from now they want to win in 2012. that's a competition between mitt romney and tim pawlenty and maybe john huntsman if and when he gets into the race. among them mitt romney clearly had the better debate. the other one is to be the candidate of the grassroots and to be the passionate ideological firebrand and i think michelle bachmann emerged as that candidate for now this past week. interesting to see the tension between those two groups as the campaign develops. it's potentially a good thing for romney if this is romney versus bachmann. >> i got